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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 17, 2020 2:36:05 GMT
At this point, does the engine matter? The work to adapt it to doing RPGs has already been done. It's not like they're going to just lose that code somehow. Indeed righ tnow htat th egroundwork has been done now it's a case of adapting itto the game they're making.
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Post by themikefest on May 17, 2020 3:30:36 GMT
Thinking about it, the control ending is actually the best ending to make canon as it's the only ending where mass relays remain intact. You can just hand wave the reapers away too. You can say they flew away - never to be seen again. All ending have the relays damaged. Look at what happens, in the video below, to the rings when control is chosen. The same thing happens for the green, and red if ems is above 2600. If you mean the Citadel, then yes, blue is the only ending where the Citadel isn't damaged.
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Post by N7eezo on May 17, 2020 10:03:27 GMT
At this point, does the engine matter? The work to adapt it to doing RPGs has already been done. It's not like they're going to just lose that code somehow.
While technically speaking that's mostly on point, over the years Bioware surely lost knowledge/talent that knew how to work with the Unreal Engine 3 and that has to be rebuilt/acquired again.
MET was built on Unreal Engine 3 which is not their own game engine and has (had) to be licensed.
A big question is, if the original deal included a lengthy/unlimited lifespan use or had the foresight to include remaster/remake option.
Comparing it within the entertainment industry regarding re releases/remasters/remakes it's PITA or impossible to just get songs or player likeness licensed again for example. I'm not saying it's impossible, but there are other hurdles to pass, other than just technical.
And if they use their Frostbite engine, they have to rebuild pretty much all in game assets (textures etc.), animations, let alone maybe still missing tool features. So it would be pretty much building a new game.
Having said that, IF there is "just" a remaster, I will insta buy it for my Xbox, despite having a fully modded MET on PC.
For a remake I'd even double dip for both platforms.
Regardless of all of that I'm hoping for a NEW Mass Effect game the most.
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Post by ClarkKent on May 17, 2020 13:26:13 GMT
Thinking about it, the control ending is actually the best ending to make canon as it's the only ending where mass relays remain intact. You can just hand wave the reapers away too. You can say they flew away - never to be seen again. All ending have the relays damaged. Look at what happens, in the video below, to the rings when control is chosen. The same thing happens for the green, and red if ems is above 2600. If you mean the Citadel, then yes, blue is the only ending where the Citadel isn't damaged.
I stand corrected, that said, it does still seem to be the ending that can maintain the status quo the most. God watching that ending brought back memories. What a torch and run bit of writing that was.
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Post by alanc9 on May 17, 2020 13:55:34 GMT
Thinking about it, the control ending is actually the best ending to make canon as it's the only ending where mass relays remain intact. You can just hand wave the reapers away too. You can say they flew away - never to be seen again. Of course, they'd actually still be out there someplace.
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Post by alanc9 on May 17, 2020 13:59:34 GMT
At this point, does the engine matter? The work to adapt it to doing RPGs has already been done. It's not like they're going to just lose that code somehow. While technically speaking that's mostly on point, over the years Bioware surely lost knowledge/talent that knew how to work with the Unreal Engine 3 and that has to be rebuilt/acquired again. MET was built on Unreal Engine 3 which is not their own game engine and has (had) to be licensed.
A big question is, if the original deal included a lengthy/unlimited lifespan use or had the foresight to include remaster/remake option. Good points. I was actually thinking of future games -- my assumption was that an engine change would be prohibitive for a remaster, and I'm pretty sure they'd outsource the work to some other shop with UE3 expertise; even if Bio still had the staff, they're doing more useful work.
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Post by ClarkKent on May 17, 2020 15:14:38 GMT
Thinking about it, the control ending is actually the best ending to make canon as it's the only ending where mass relays remain intact. You can just hand wave the reapers away too. You can say they flew away - never to be seen again. Of course, they'd actually still be out there someplace. Maybe Shepard could be a bro and just drive them into the sun.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 17, 2020 15:48:02 GMT
Thinking about it, the control ending is actually the best ending to make canon as it's the only ending where mass relays remain intact. You can just hand wave the reapers away too. You can say they flew away - never to be seen again. It's reasonable to assume the same happens for Synthesis: if reapers integrate then they can share the knowledge to construct the mass relays.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 17:40:19 GMT
Thinking about it, the control ending is actually the best ending to make canon as it's the only ending where mass relays remain intact. You can just hand wave the reapers away too. You can say they flew away - never to be seen again. There is no canon ending
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Post by cloud9 on May 17, 2020 18:06:46 GMT
Thinking about it, the control ending is actually the best ending to make canon as it's the only ending where mass relays remain intact. You can just hand wave the reapers away too. You can say they flew away - never to be seen again. There is no canon ending Then how are they're going to move the franchise forward, if the ending of ME3 isn't canon and the writing is a complete mess? Damn, do they even think before they act? What's going on with them?
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Post by cloud9 on May 17, 2020 18:08:21 GMT
Thinking about it, the control ending is actually the best ending to make canon as it's the only ending where mass relays remain intact. You can just hand wave the reapers away too. You can say they flew away - never to be seen again. There's a mod that fixes the ending.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 17, 2020 18:08:29 GMT
Then how are they're going to move the franchise forward
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Post by cloud9 on May 17, 2020 18:09:25 GMT
At this point, does the engine matter? The work to adapt it to doing RPGs has already been done. It's not like they're going to just lose that code somehow. *Looking at Andromeda*
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 20:20:28 GMT
Then how are they're going to move the franchise forward, if the ending of ME3 isn't canon and the writing is a complete mess? Damn, do they even think before they act? What's going on with them? How many times do I have to repeat myself and say they designed it as a trilogy and nothing more?
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Post by KaiserShep on May 17, 2020 20:36:05 GMT
At this point, does the engine matter? The work to adapt it to doing RPGs has already been done. It's not like they're going to just lose that code somehow. *Looking at Andromeda* This engine is not the real issue here.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 17, 2020 20:36:55 GMT
Then how are they're going to move the franchise forward, if the ending of ME3 isn't canon and the writing is a complete mess? Damn, do they even think before they act? What's going on with them? As far as ME3 is concerned, the answer is simple: you don’t.
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Post by alanc9 on May 17, 2020 20:37:20 GMT
Then how are they're going to move the franchise forward, if the ending of ME3 isn't canon and the writing is a complete mess? Damn, do they even think before they act? What's going on with them? They thought that they didn't want to make any more Mass Effect, perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 21:09:30 GMT
There's a mod that fixes the ending. *cough* Disney ending *cough*
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 17, 2020 21:43:36 GMT
Then how are they're going to move the franchise forward, if the ending of ME3 isn't canon and the writing is a complete mess? Damn, do they even think before they act? What's going on with them? *sigh* No canon ending doesn't mean no ending exists, it means that each ending is up to the player's choice. This is why we moved over to Andromeda, so we can leave the Milky Way behind and work on something NEW
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Post by themikefest on May 17, 2020 21:53:15 GMT
So only 30 people working on anthem so what rest of bioware working on can't just be dragon age. it's nearly over 400 people work there. So hopefully they're working a new mass effect and new ip. Bioware is currently working on a top-secret-double-hush-hush-pinky-swear project. Shortly after the trilogy remaster has been released, they will announce they're remaking the trilogy to be released around 2025.
For ME1 remake, Jenkins will be removed and have Williams on the ship instead of her being on Eden Prime.
both A/K survive Virmire when dealing with the Rachni queen, Shepard asks the council what they want to do.
after talking with the council, the first time, Shepard heads to Feros since there are geth reported in the area. Maybe she/he will get the proof the council is asking for. They bring back Shiala. While she talks with Anderson and Udina, Shepard investigates clues that involve Wrex, Garrus and Tali.
the council will always survive Udina will always become councilor Gianna Parasinni and Conrad Verner will have bigger roles The genophage was released on the asari preventing them from mating with other species
female krogan are able to have one offspring during their life time Samantha Traynor, Steve Cortez will be on the ship If Kirrahe survives Virmire, Shepard has the option to ask him if he wants to join the squad to help stop Saren
Bioware has listened/read people's feedback about Kaidan Alenko. Maleshep will be able to romance him. after talking with the council, the second time, Shiala becomes a squadmate Liara is an advisor/consultant Nihlus and Shepard complete a couple of missions before arriving on Eden Prime
Stay tuned to this thread. More updates will be posted when further information becomes available.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 17, 2020 22:20:45 GMT
They thought that they didn't want to make any more Mass Effect, perhaps? You should always have a backup plan. Anthem Next won't be here till late 2021, possibly early 2022, Dread Wolf has just been moved to full production, so still 2 full years, hopefully, away from release and not enough time to develop a new IP in the meantime, Mass Effect is the only thing Bioware can release. Or Jade Empire 2. Bioware is currently working on a top-secret-double-hush-hush-pinky-swear project. Shortly after the trilogy remaster has been released, they will announce they're remaking the trilogy to be released around 2025. Can confirm, all of this is true.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 17, 2020 22:46:25 GMT
They thought that they didn't want to make any more Mass Effect, perhaps? You should always have a backup plan. Anthem Next won't be here till late 2021, possibly early 2022, Dread Wolf has just been moved to full production, so still 2 full years, hopefully, away from release and not enough time to develop a new IP in the meantime, Mass Effect is the only thing Bioware can release. Or Jade Empire 2. Bioware is currently working on a top-secret-double-hush-hush-pinky-swear project. Shortly after the trilogy remaster has been released, they will announce they're remaking the trilogy to be released around 2025. Can confirm, all of this is true. Let me guess: your "source" that you can't give info about or else risk their job yet give info about at all still risking their job?
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 17, 2020 23:32:47 GMT
You should always have a backup plan. Anthem Next won't be here till late 2021, possibly early 2022, Dread Wolf has just been moved to full production, so still 2 full years, hopefully, away from release and not enough time to develop a new IP in the meantime, Mass Effect is the only thing Bioware can release. Or Jade Empire 2. Can confirm, all of this is true. Let me guess: your "source" that you can't give info about or else risk their job yet give info about at all still risking their job?
Learn to take everything from unnamed sources in big media companies on the internet with a huge grain of salt it. Trust me will save you a lot of heartbreak and you will have less anger in your life. Right now they are working on DA4 and trying to fix Anthem and they're probably throwing around ideas for what to do with Mass Effect.
I still think MEA2 is their best option.
A remaster of the MET seems like something that only people who have a PS4 and/or a PS5 will get any real value of and would very likely re-open a lot of old wounds.
A full remake of the trilogy could be as polarizing to the fans as Final Fantasy VII: Remake and might be a huge backfire.
So yeah IMHO MEA2 is the best way forward.
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 17, 2020 23:37:39 GMT
Then how are they're going to move the franchise forward, if the ending of ME3 isn't canon and the writing is a complete mess? Damn, do they even think before they act? What's going on with them? How many times do I have to repeat myself and say they designed it as a trilogy and nothing more?
Because of Star Wars and Halo both started out as trilogies and are no longer that.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 0:03:32 GMT
How many times do I have to repeat myself and say they designed it as a trilogy and nothing more?
Because of Star Wars and Halo both started out as trilogies and are no longer that.
Well that's Star Wars and Halo. Not every game or movie out there does this. Mass Effect did go to Andromeda, but it wasn't a continuation of ME3. It was kind of like Stargate Atlantis meets Stargate SG-1. They had references to SG-1 and even cameos. However, the story revolved around the stuff going on in Pegasus, most of the time.
Look, I know where people are going with this. They want Shepard back. They want the Normandy and her crew back. They want that old, familiar, setting back, because they don't like change. They want them to return to the Milky Way and find a way to undo the effects of ME3's ending so the story can continue like nothing happened. They are so emotionally attached to the trilogy, that nothing else will satisfy them. They think Shepard's story is never-ending, and there will be always more to tell.
Everything that has a beginning, has an end.
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