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Post by DoctorDAM on May 16, 2020 13:35:53 GMT
Conspiracy corner note: interesting that the Bioware blog game out on May 15. Just after expiration of an Origin sale
By the looks of the ME3 MP, the sale got a lot of takers. Did Anthem also get such a bump? Maybe helped by some anticipating an (at the time) more imminent arrival of Anthem 2.0?
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Post by saandrig on May 18, 2020 22:11:26 GMT
So to sum up Bioware's periodical communication since the last content update in July - "We got nothing", "we got nothing', "we got nothing". It's soon be a year, just saying. And ok, Covid19 is a valid excuse...for about 4-5 months starting from March.
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Post by Sartoz on May 19, 2020 12:32:19 GMT
LOL, "trying to figure out"?
If the studio does not know by now.......
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Post by saandrig on May 19, 2020 14:20:02 GMT
LOL, "trying to figure out"?
If the studio does not know by now.......
Most of us knew after less than a week with the game
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Post by AnDromedary on May 19, 2020 18:35:43 GMT
And there lies the rub. EA is the shyte disturber, insisting on every game to be online = MP = backend monetization. Bio, as you say, has yet to succeed in a hybrid loot-shooter- RPG story driven game.
The problem is thus... how does Bioware extricate itselft from EA ? It might be next to impossible. Bioware would have to be sufficiently willing and capable of sustaining itself as both publisher and developer. It is impossible. BioWare is a brand name of EA now, they cannot seperate and they wouldn't anyway.
Also, even if it weren't impossible, how much of the talent that actually made the pre-corporate-black-hole BioWare wjat it was is still there? And how much of the old spirit within the company could be revived?
I'm afraid the answer is "not many" and "now much".
You can't turn back the clock mate.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 19, 2020 18:38:40 GMT
The problem is thus... how does Bioware extricate itselft from EA ? It might be next to impossible. Bioware would have to be sufficiently willing and capable of sustaining itself as both publisher and developer. It is impossible. BioWare is a brand name of EA now, they cannot seperate and they wouldn't anyway.
Also, even if it weren't impossible, how much of the talent that actually made the pre-corporate-black-hole BioWare wjat it was is still there? And how much of the old spirit within the company could be revived?
I'm afraid the answer is "not many" and "now much".
You can't turn back the clock mate.
Sooooper bummer. Doesn't matter much to me though, since Casey Hudson is there. As long as the mastermind is standing I'll remain hopeful
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Post by AnDromedary on May 19, 2020 18:53:50 GMT
Sorry, a bit moody today. I used to think so but unfortunately Casey hasn't really stood out in much of a positive way to me since about 2010, so I am not gonna rely on just his name as much as I used to.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 19, 2020 19:11:01 GMT
Sorry, a bit moddy today. I used to think so but unfortunately Casey hasn't really stood out in much of a positive way to me since about 2010, so I am not gonna rely on just his name as much as I used to. How come though ? Say what you will about Weekes and Walters but Casey was the driving force for both Kotor and Mass Effect. People give a lot of praise to Chris Avellone but I'd rather see a couple of claps going Hudson's way, he deserves much more credit than he gets in the RPG world.
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Post by AnDromedary on May 19, 2020 19:41:07 GMT
Sorry, a bit moddy today. I used to think so but unfortunately Casey hasn't really stood out in much of a positive way to me since about 2010, so I am not gonna rely on just his name as much as I used to. How come though ? Say what you will about Weekes and Walters but Casey was the driving force for both Kotor and Mass Effect. People give a lot of praise to Chris Avellone but I'd rather see a couple of claps going Hudson's way, he deserves much more credit than he gets in the RPG world. Oh, I give him praise for those games for sure. But as I wrote, that's 10 years ago. And he was at the helm when some very questionable decisions happened around Mass Effect 2 and 3 (still great games but nonetheless) and him being general manager of BW during the Anthem disaster is not exactly a glamorous episode either.
I am not saying he's bad or anything or that we should forget his contributions in the past. I am just saying that as a sole beacon of hope, he's not really working for me on his own.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 19, 2020 19:47:04 GMT
Oh, I give him praise for those games for sure. But as I wrote, that's 10 years ago. And he was at the helm when some very questionable decisions happened around Mass Effect 2 and 3 (still great games but nonetheless) and him being general manager of BW during the Anthem disaster is not exactly a glamorous episode either.
I am not saying he's bad or anything or that we should forget his contributions in the past. I am just saying that as a sole beacon of hope, he's not really working for me on his own.
I do agree to some extent. I mean, nobody is happy about Anthem, though I did like that Casey did have the balls to say "Hey, it's not working ? We're going back to design". Obviously it's a commitment from Bioware to EA and they gotta deliver; their investment has to pay off. I think we will see Hudson's worth as general manager with DA4 and with the next Mass Effect. If both projects, or perhaps even one, turn out right then I'd feel more than confident in the future of the company.
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Post by AnDromedary on May 19, 2020 19:49:46 GMT
I think we will see Hudson's worth as general manager with DA4 and with the next Mass Effect. If both projects, or perhaps even one, turn out right then I'd feel more than confident in the future of the company. Well, let's hope so.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jun 18, 2020 23:51:59 GMT
No Anthem news on EA Play.
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Post by Sartoz on Jun 19, 2020 11:04:00 GMT
No Anthem news on EA Play.
Unsurprising. The year 2020 is lost. I'm looking at '21-'22.
Personally, it makes sense to develop the reboot with the next-gen consoles. We're talking high speed storage which minimizes load screen times. I mean, Anthem is plagued with agonizing insufferable load screens... many of them. Of course, imo, that many load screen is a bad game design to start with....
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Post by Highwayman667 on Jun 19, 2020 14:29:55 GMT
No Anthem news on EA Play. Aren't they still on the re-designing stage Casey Hudson announced a while back ? Give it some time.
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Post by ClarkKent on Jun 19, 2020 17:10:14 GMT
No Anthem news on EA Play. Good.
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Post by Sartoz on Jun 20, 2020 13:37:06 GMT
No Anthem news on EA Play. Aren't they still on the re-designing stage Casey Hudson announced a while back ? Give it some time.
If Bio is still on the re-design stage, I expect the game to be out in 3-4 years. I wish the studio would drop this "play-with-friends" idea and make it a MP looter shooter... period.
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Post by Highwayman667 on Jun 20, 2020 15:07:59 GMT
Aren't they still on the re-designing stage Casey Hudson announced a while back ? Give it some time.
If Bio is still on the re-design stage, I expect the game to be out in 3-4 years. I wish the studio would drop this "play-with-friends" idea and make it a MP looter shooter... period. Like Borderlands you mean ? I guess that could work as well. Maybe they are actually doing that ?
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Post by goishen on Jun 23, 2020 9:49:45 GMT
More like Torchlight II. I guess Borderlands could work, too though.
I think that BioWare has painted themselves into a corner with their games being good (or great) storytelling schemas. They introduce something without that storytelling element, people are going to notice. Plus, all the lack of interactivity that was promised to us inside the forts.
And, you've gotta think of what's outside of the fort. Not just, "OhhHHhhhHHHHHHhhhh. Something scary" and "oMgZoRs, it's the anthem of creation!" Rly? Srsly? If that's all the thought you're gonna put into your game, no wonder it failed.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jun 23, 2020 13:49:30 GMT
Aren't they still on the re-designing stage Casey Hudson announced a while back ? Give it some time.
If Bio is still on the re-design stage, I expect the game to be out in 3-4 years. I wish the studio would drop this "play-with-friends" idea and make it a MP looter shooter... period.
Where is the difference? MP is MP.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 15, 2020 16:28:40 GMT
If Bio is still on the re-design stage, I expect the game to be out in 3-4 years. I wish the studio would drop this "play-with-friends" idea and make it a MP looter shooter... period.
Where is the difference? MP is MP. Not really, there's a difference between the "invite your friends to join your game" style of something like Halo or Borderlands and the "play in a MMO-like setting with dozens of other people running around on shared servers and form teams for raids" style of Destiny/Division.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 15, 2020 17:30:04 GMT
Where is the difference? MP is MP. Not really, there's a difference between the "invite your friends to join your game" style of something like Halo or Borderlands and the "play in a MMO-like setting with dozens of other people running around on shared servers and form teams for raids" style of Destiny/Division. He said he wished they made it a MP looter shooter - that's essentialy what Anthem is.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Jul 16, 2020 3:22:13 GMT
Never played the game. Read the infamous Kotaku article, watched the cringey E3 demo with the 'lOok wE aRe GaMerZ 2!' players, and then watched the demo if real gamers had played it (and the comments noted that said group predicted the technical incompetence of the game.)
I'm sold. The game is a no play for me, and I feel perfectly justified in calling it a piece of shit.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jul 16, 2020 10:42:49 GMT
Aren't they still on the re-designing stage Casey Hudson announced a while back ? Give it some time.
If Bio is still on the re-design stage, I expect the game to be out in 3-4 years. I wish the studio would drop this "play-with-friends" idea and make it a MP looter shooter... period.
If you drop the play with friends part, it would be an SP looter shooter.
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