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Post by river82 on Jul 22, 2018 22:39:14 GMT
I had never been hyped, to begin with, but this E3 gameplay vid makes it worse. That boss fight was waaay too slow. They were barely scratching it, and they had to cut it off somewhere around 50% HP. Would you rather see a demo where they wipe out the boss before it can even get to the second progress stage? That's what they were afraid of, since they boosted the XP level of the Javelins, because who wants to watch noobs? So they boosted the health of the boss too, just for the demo. I, and probably many others, would rather not see bosses with "bullet sponge" characteristics. It's a cheap and uncreative way to artificially boost difficulty and has a bad reputation for a reason.
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Post by x19dude95 on Jul 23, 2018 0:13:29 GMT
I’m saying this cause I got burned by Bungie with their lies, it’s not that I want it to fail for Biowear to close down cause loseing your job sucks, but I want it to fail enough for them to say hey let’s go work on dragon age 4, mass effect is a big enough for multiple stories let’s see what we can do. Now if this game is good with enough single player content cause you just can’t count on anyone, I will get it But they already confirmed that they're working on DA4, and both Casey Hudson and Mike Gamble have both stated Mass Effect will return at some point. I just wanted to see it sooner rather than later. Like if Anthem was the to come out after DA4 I would be less worried
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Post by biggydx on Jul 23, 2018 0:41:14 GMT
But they already confirmed that they're working on DA4, and both Casey Hudson and Mike Gamble have both stated Mass Effect will return at some point. I just wanted to see it sooner rather than later. Like if Anthem was the to come out after IDA4 I would be less worried I think they probably want to give DA4 some breath because (A) they likely want to make it a next-gen only title, ( they said they wanted to incorporate more live elements into it, and (C) because they probably saw some of the mixed reviews Inquisition got and likely don't want a repeat. Whether it turns out to be good, I've got no clue. My best guess, we probably shouldn't a DA trailer until 2020 at the earliest.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jul 23, 2018 22:57:32 GMT
Would you rather see a demo where they wipe out the boss before it can even get to the second progress stage? That's what they were afraid of, since they boosted the XP level of the Javelins, because who wants to watch noobs? So they boosted the health of the boss too, just for the demo. I, and probably many others, would rather not see bosses with "bullet sponge" characteristics. It's a cheap and uncreative way to artificially boost difficulty and has a bad reputation for a reason. So basically you were triggered. Look, in hindsight it maybe wasn’t the best decision, but the point was that it was a decision made for the sake of a demo, not a game design decision for the released product.
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Post by river82 on Jul 23, 2018 23:02:02 GMT
So basically you were triggered. No. Terrible word in any case, not taking into account the amount of times it's misused. Anyway a demo is a piece of software that allows players to get a feel of the game. I agree with you putting something in a demo not representative of a game is a) stupid and b )well, stupid, but it's all we've got to go on so ...
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jul 23, 2018 23:39:03 GMT
So basically you were triggered. No. Terrible word in any case, not taking into account the amount of times it's misused. Anyway a demo is a piece of software that allows players to get a feel of the game. I agree with you putting something in a demo not representative of a game is a) stupid and b )well, stupid, but it's all we've got to go on so ... I’m amazed there wasn’t a bigger uproar over that, tbh. I’m willing to allow for a demo to be more marketing than reality, but there should have been a “not representative of actual gameplay” overlay over the whole vid for those who don’t realize that a demo isn’t.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 23, 2018 23:54:44 GMT
I’m saying this cause I got burned by Bungie with their lies, it’s not that I want it to fail for Biowear to close down cause loseing your job sucks, but I want it to fail enough for them to say hey let’s go work on dragon age 4, mass effect is a big enough for multiple stories let’s see what we can do. Now if this game is good with enough single player content cause you just can’t count on anyone, I will get it But they already confirmed that they're working on DA4, and both Casey Hudson and Mike Gamble have both stated Mass Effect will return at some point. Exactly the only thing that might and probably will stop that is if Anthem fails. Because I can see EA stepping in and closing Bioware down if Anthem does fail especially after what happened with MEA and don't forget Bioware was downsized after what happened there so we can't exactly say they won't go one step further next time especially as EA have a track record of doing so. I don't want Anthem to fail but not because I like MMO's because I don't but because I believe the future's of both Dragon Age and Mass Effect are counting on it.
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Post by NRieh on Jul 24, 2018 8:31:29 GMT
Would you rather see a demo where they wipe out the boss before it can even get to the second progress stage? That's what they were afraid of, since they boosted the XP level of the Javelins, because who wants to watch noobs? So they boosted the health of the boss too, just for the demo. I, and probably many others, would rather not see bosses with "bullet sponge" characteristics. It's a cheap and uncreative way to artificially boost difficulty and has a bad reputation for a reason. This exactly. They announce 'varied tactic-blah-blah-action-combat', but nothing really depends on those so-called 'tactics'. Those 'Brilliant smart mega combos' are barely visible on the HP bar. Don't get me wrong, but the very fact that they had admitted going on easy+overgeared\overleveled makes the design look like shit. It means that normal player would fight this not-rachni even longer, and the harder difficulties would double the taken damage to make it even more annoying. I assume it could be a side-effect of their attempt to make a 'one-size-fits-all' system. Remember how he mentions that the party is lv 30, but one of the mechs is lv 1(or was it 2)? And how it does not really matter and it does not prevent people from playing together? Show me a single game where this dungeon autolevel thing does work as intended.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 24, 2018 16:02:16 GMT
I, and probably many others, would rather not see bosses with "bullet sponge" characteristics. It's a cheap and uncreative way to artificially boost difficulty and has a bad reputation for a reason. This exactly. They announce 'varied tactic-blah-blah-action-combat', but nothing really depends on those so-called 'tactics'. Those 'Brilliant smart mega combos' are barely visible on the HP bar. Don't get me wrong, but the very fact that they had admitted going on easy+overgeared\overleveled makes the design look like shit. It means that normal player would fight this not-rachni even longer, and the harder difficulties would double the taken damage to make it even more annoying. I assume it could be a side-effect of their attempt to make a 'one-size-fits-all' system. Remember how he mentions that the party is lv 30, but one of the mechs is lv 1(or was it 2)? And how it does not really matter and it does not prevent people from playing together? Show me a single game where this dungeon autolevel thing does work as intended. City of Heroes/Villains had an excellent sidekicking system, it worked for scaling players up or down. A new player could play with high level buddies and contribute, but since their build would not be filled out with all skills and enhancements they just wouldn't be as effective as a same level player.
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Post by PillarBiter on Jul 25, 2018 6:05:59 GMT
I, and probably many others, would rather not see bosses with "bullet sponge" characteristics. It's a cheap and uncreative way to artificially boost difficulty and has a bad reputation for a reason. It means that normal player would fight this not-rachni even longer, and the harder difficulties would double the taken damage to make it even more annoying. False, they were overlevelled for normal enemies, but they had INCREASED the boss HP in the demo, so it wouldn't die too quick.
So it won't take that long with a good team in real like
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 31, 2018 19:16:15 GMT
I found a new source of skepticism - I finally started playing Warframe, and it's amazing. I have pretty much zero confidence in anyone else's shared world shooters now. This game makes Destiny and Division look like the most boring crap ever, and I've played hundreds of hours of both. I know Warframe has a 5 year head start, but they're still adding new stuff to the game all the time. Why bother with something else that looks pretty shaky to begin with? Maybe Anthem will be amazing in 2023.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Aug 1, 2018 15:36:50 GMT
I found a new source of skepticism - I finally started playing Warframe, and it's amazing. I have pretty much zero confidence in anyone else's shared world shooters now. This game makes Destiny and Division look like the most boring crap ever, and I've played hundreds of hours of both. I know Warframe has a 5 year head start, but they're still adding new stuff to the game all the time. Why bother with something else that looks pretty shaky to begin with? Maybe Anthem will be amazing in 2023. Different strokes, I guess. I played one session of Warframe early on and got bored pretty quickly. I liked Destiny 1 a lot better.
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Post by biggydx on Aug 2, 2018 1:24:39 GMT
I found a new source of skepticism - I finally started playing Warframe, and it's amazing. I have pretty much zero confidence in anyone else's shared world shooters now. This game makes Destiny and Division look like the most boring crap ever, and I've played hundreds of hours of both. I know Warframe has a 5 year head start, but they're still adding new stuff to the game all the time. Why bother with something else that looks pretty shaky to begin with? Maybe Anthem will be amazing in 2023. Different strokes, I guess. I played one session of Warframe early on and got bored pretty quickly. I liked Destiny 1 a lot better. I gave it two playthroughs, starting out on the Xbox, and then on the PS4. While I gave it a much better run on the PS4, I found myself wanting to play less because it was starting to become far more apparent how greatly you'd need to rely on the trading system. It's not a slight against the game, just that it's a feature I don't particular enjoy myself (or at least trading involving actual currency at least). With that said, I do think one fault the game still has is how poorly optimized the early game experience is for newer players.
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Post by dankafkid77 on Aug 10, 2018 0:00:29 GMT
(I love anthem I just want to post really bad hate towards anthem)
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Aug 10, 2018 0:54:16 GMT
I can't go against this video, it haves big red letters and it says WAKE UP!!111oneoneone.
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Post by NotN7 on Aug 10, 2018 1:15:13 GMT
OH NOoooooooo….ITS another the sky is falling click bait Vid. (hides under the bed)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 1:23:39 GMT
It's the internet what are you going to do?
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Post by dankafkid77 on Aug 10, 2018 1:34:09 GMT
OMG bread your so right every thing he said was true thank you for showing me the light
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Post by NotN7 on Aug 10, 2018 1:46:58 GMT
It's the internet what are you going to do? Laugh mostly
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Aug 11, 2018 17:35:27 GMT
(I love anthem I just want to post really bad hate towards anthem) Old, out-dated muckraking. Anthem is falling apart because key developers left and MEA was a disaster so every game from Bioware has to be a disaster and the developers left because MEA was a disaster. Oh, and EA and mtx and SWBF2 was a disaster too.
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Post by river82 on Aug 12, 2018 3:35:33 GMT
(I love anthem I just want to post really bad hate towards anthem) Old, out-dated muckraking. Anthem is falling apart because key developers left and MEA was a disaster so every game from Bioware has to be a disaster and the developers left because MEA was a disaster. Oh, and EA and mtx and SWBF2 was a disaster too. Skepticism ( noun) : An attitude of doubt or a disposition of incredulity ( noun: the state of being unwilling or unable to believe something). From first post: A thread to share your worries, not every post has to be doom and gloom but posters are welcome to share their skepticism. We're not looking to get into fights with fanboys or girls in this thread, if they swing by direct them to the (very underused because there's not much to be hyped about) Anthem Hype train thread.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Aug 12, 2018 18:20:07 GMT
Old, out-dated muckraking. Anthem is falling apart because key developers left and MEA was a disaster so every game from Bioware has to be a disaster and the developers left because MEA was a disaster. Oh, and EA and mtx and SWBF2 was a disaster too. Skepticism ( noun) : An attitude of doubt or a disposition of incredulity ( noun: the state of being unwilling or unable to believe something). From first post: A thread to share your worries, not every post has to be doom and gloom but posters are welcome to share their skepticism. We're not looking to get into fights with fanboys or girls in this thread, if they swing by direct them to the (very underused because there's not much to be hyped about) Anthem Hype train thread. Without confirming or denying my membership in any boy's or girl's club, you're saying I should post my skepticism about that out-dated video in the hype thread? Your logic escapes me. I will, however, deny any intention about fighting. I come here for the laughs, and fresh material is more entertaining that old, worn-out stuff from March.
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Post by river82 on Aug 12, 2018 22:04:01 GMT
Skepticism ( noun) : An attitude of doubt or a disposition of incredulity ( noun: the state of being unwilling or unable to believe something). From first post: A thread to share your worries, not every post has to be doom and gloom but posters are welcome to share their skepticism. We're not looking to get into fights with fanboys or girls in this thread, if they swing by direct them to the (very underused because there's not much to be hyped about) Anthem Hype train thread. Without confirming or denying my membership in any boy's or girl's club, you're saying I should post my skepticism about that out-dated video in the hype thread? Your logic escapes me. This thread is for posts skeptical about Anthem and its future quality, not for posts skeptical about the nature of those skeptical arguments. Similarly any hype for Bioware's future downfall isn't welcome in the hype train thread, and I know this because several posts have been removed. Context, like always, is everything. The Skepticism thread, and the hype train thread, are threads for posting worries and enthusiasm without having that skepticism or enthusiasm mocked or ridiculed.
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Post by NotN7 on Aug 13, 2018 0:26:04 GMT
Without confirming or denying my membership in any boy's or girl's club, you're saying I should post my skepticism about that out-dated video in the hype thread? Your logic escapes me. This thread is for posts skeptical about Anthem and its future quality, not for posts skeptical about the nature of those skeptical arguments. Similarly any hype for Bioware's future downfall isn't welcome in the hype train thread, and I know this because several posts have been removed. Context, like always, is everything. The Skepticism thread, and the hype train thread, are threads for posting worries and enthusiasm without having that skepticism or enthusiasm mocked or ridiculed. My skepticism is whether the game is one I would like to buy and or play, there isn't enough info out there so i'm skeptic. simple
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Post by helios969 on Aug 13, 2018 9:35:44 GMT
While I would consider myself firmly aboard the Hype Train, I am somewhat skeptical that in their quest to allow players of variable skill and any level to group up that the gameplay doesn't suffer. Maybe this is addressed through different difficulty tiers...or composite formula base on team stats and level...or some combination. But too much accessibility can strip away the sense of accomplishment and quickly reduce the fun factor to stale repetition. I hope that they don't give a level one Javelin the same degree of damage output and survivability as a high level because that diminishes the experience imo.
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