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Post by phoray on Feb 15, 2018 2:02:53 GMT
A Qunari will be really tempting though if they're ever more culturally a Qunari and grew up in Par Vollen or Seheron. part of the reason I had no interest in playing one in DAI is they are pretty much grey skinned giant humans with racial gating on the romances galore. (no CULLEN, the horror!)
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 15, 2018 2:06:44 GMT
I think a world state where you have Warden x Leliana paired up and Inquisitor x Josephine paired up is really sweet because they're such good friends and deserve to be swept off their feet. I think if your Inquisitor is after "acceptance and belonging", either character works. I know what you mean about both characters working for what I mentioned. I didn't realize until after I posted that I needed to be more precise. Bull definitely accepts you for who you are regardless of any of the details whatsoever, and provides such unconditional love and support. I know it's a minor detail, but it always bugs me that all of his flings or relationships seem to be with women. But I think I also like playing out the beauty and the beast scenario with him. One of my favorite combinations is to pair Bull with a female dwarven tank who protects him on the battlefield. The precision I was lacking was that my Adaar was brought up to be culturally human and Andrastian by his parents so he could have a better chance at gaining acceptance into the community which they escaped. His name is actually Plum Drakon Adaar (he has purple eyes). As an aside, especially since she's noble, I feel like putting her with the worst possible race/class combination proves her love even more. Mage Qunari? She has to super love them to ignore the whispers. Thank you both for your response and input. I will commit to Josephine for my canon. Adaar will even find further acceptance and belonging through his loving relationship with an Andrastian human. Awesome! Glad you were able to find some symmetry. (Btw, I LOVE the idea of Bull with a fierce little tank who protects him, I'm definitely gonna try that at least once!) I think it's doubly endearing/hilarious if you played a male Warden who dumped Leliana for Zevran, because she threatens to give Zev the shovel talk: "You tell him, if he ever hurts you, he'll have to face me! Men can be bastards sometimes, you know..." Nice shade, Leliana. 😎
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Post by phoray on Feb 15, 2018 2:08:33 GMT
I think it's doubly endearing/hilarious if you played a male Warden who dumped Leliana for Zevran, because she threatens to give Zev the shovel talk: "You tell him, if he ever hurts you, he'll have to face me! Men can be bastards sometimes, you know..." Nice shade, Leliana. 😎 The weird conversations that can happen when the writers can't keep track of previous romance checks.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 15, 2018 2:12:44 GMT
I think it's doubly endearing/hilarious if you played a male Warden who dumped Leliana for Zevran, because she threatens to give Zev the shovel talk: "You tell him, if he ever hurts you, he'll have to face me! Men can be bastards sometimes, you know..." Nice shade, Leliana. 😎 The weird conversations that can happen when the writers can't keep track of previous romance checks. Oh no, it's intentional. It follows a whole conversation where she confronts you about sleeping with Zevran, you basically go, "whoops, sorry Lels, turns out I'm not into girls", she accepts it, you agree to be friends and then like a true friend she promises to destroy anyone who hurts you while simultaneously calling you a dick for cheating on her LOL.
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Post by phoray on Feb 15, 2018 2:14:35 GMT
Oh no, it's intentional. It follows a whole conversation where she confronts you about sleeping with Zevran, you basically go, " whoops, sorry Lels, turns out I'm not into girls", she accepts it, you agree to be friends and then like a true friend she promises to destroy anyone who hurts you while simultaneously calling you a dick for cheating on her LOL. ....what the ef, how is that even a conversation. Why would she believe that.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 15, 2018 2:21:48 GMT
Oh no, it's intentional. It follows a whole conversation where she confronts you about sleeping with Zevran, you basically go, " whoops, sorry Lels, turns out I'm not into girls", she accepts it, you agree to be friends and then like a true friend she promises to destroy anyone who hurts you while simultaneously calling you a dick for cheating on her LOL. ....what the ef, how is that even a conversation. Why would she believe that. The Leliana lies begin at 3:37... she comes across as reeeaaally naive.
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Post by phoray on Feb 15, 2018 2:32:12 GMT
The Leliana lies begin at 3:37... she comes across as reeeaaally naive. LOL "men can be bastards sometimes" is much more hilarious with audio delivery. It's interesting that she says, "I had felt something missing between us." I don't know if she's literal or just trying to make awkward breakup less awkward.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 15, 2018 2:37:17 GMT
The Leliana lies begin at 3:37... she comes across as reeeaaally naive. LOL "men can be bastards sometimes" is much more hilarious with audio delivery. It's interesting that she says, "I had felt something missing between us." I don't know if she's literal or just trying to make awkward breakup less awkward. I felt it was genuine. If you're playing your Warden as being conflicted over his sexuality, it's pretty reasonable for her to examine everything and go... "Hm, makes sense." Conversations like this make me wish I was more willing to break off romances, start up new ones, etc. Like all those people who dump Blackwall and rebound with Cullen, or have something going with Bull/Blackwall before moving on with Sera (the banter makes me looool and also appreciate their friendships so much more). But no..... instead I'm just waifu trash.
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Post by phoray on Feb 15, 2018 2:46:19 GMT
Conversations like this make me wish I was more willing to break off romances, start up new ones, etc. Like all those people who dump Blackwall and rebound with Cullen, or have something going with Bull/Blackwall before moving on with Sera (the banter makes me looool and also appreciate their friendships so much more). But no..... instead I'm just waifu trash. Huh, now that I think of it, my Cousland run where i romanced 3/4 LIs, I would get them up to the max, talk to the new one, confirm I wasn't with the old one anymore and then just never talk to them again. Because I wanted the ending where both Lel and Zev agree to be side peices to Queen Cousland. But then I messed up the timing of a conversation with Lel, so only Zev got to be the side piece. If I TALKED to them, I would be forced to BREAK UP with them. So they were in relationship limbo, allowing for the side peice conversations. I've listened to jealousy dialogue of the DAO LIs but I guess I'd not run into the "Warden finds out he's Gay" line Did you know that you can bang three people in DAI if you're female and 4 if you're male? The Male one is pretty mean though, considering you break Dorian AND Cassandra's heart ... Someday!
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Post by colfoley on Feb 15, 2018 19:15:51 GMT
Voice. Romance. The story I come up with for them.
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Post by phoray on Feb 15, 2018 21:11:31 GMT
I felt it was genuine. If you're playing your Warden as being conflicted over his sexuality, it's pretty reasonable for her to examine everything and go... "Hm, makes sense." Are there other dialogues outside of the breakup that support a Warden conflicted over their sexuality? because that seems an interesting personal conflict to deal with while simultaneously saving Fereldan. I planned on playing a Male Inky who was a closeted gay nobleman. He decides to Ride the Bull but then freaks out and tries to make up for the daliance by going the Romantic Flowers route with Cassandra. But then, there they are post coital and realizes it was a mistake. So he breaks it off. Then goes after Dorian, who he's been crushing after all game and fighting it. Only to realize after THEIR sex scene that, yes, he loves Dorian. But he can't not provide an heir and being the Standard Stereotypical Nobleman who marries well and has the babies. So he breaks both their hearts and settles on Josephine. Because she gives the Romantic Friendship vibe and has the noblewoman's education that sometimes your husband is gay but the marriage is good both politically and emotionally anyway. Like that poly thing we run into where the husband's gay lover lived on the grounds. But that's all in my head, I don't think there will be any dialogue to support it.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 15, 2018 21:59:52 GMT
I felt it was genuine. If you're playing your Warden as being conflicted over his sexuality, it's pretty reasonable for her to examine everything and go... "Hm, makes sense." Are there other dialogues outside of the breakup that support a Warden conflicted over their sexuality? because that seems an interesting personal conflict to deal with while simultaneously saving Fereldan. Sort of? Some of the dialogue choices with Zevran can be interpreted that way, as if you're just discovering your interest in men (thanks to the sexy Antivan elf ofc). And if you're playing a male city elf, when you return to the alienage and Zevran asks why your wedding fell through he'll say "did they find out you were..?" and the answer to that is pretty obvious. Both Morrigan and Leliana will admit that Zevran has his charms and they can see why you'd be attracted to him even if neither of them realized you swung that way. That's all I can think of, though. Oh lord, I don't think I could do that, my heart would break. I can't stand lgbt folks feeling like they have to be closeted. But I'm sure that relationship merry-go-round will be, ah, very amusing from a narrative perspective.
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Post by lynroy on Feb 16, 2018 4:57:47 GMT
How do you choose your 'canon' or favorite world state across all three games? Assuming, of course, that you have one. Do you pick your class based purely on what you enjoy playing? Do you choose your romance based on how much you like the character, or how plot-relevant their romance seems to be? Do you like all your protagonists to be the same race/gender/class/sexuality, or do you like to switch it up and have every hero be very different? What kind of character do you suspect you'll want to play in DA4? My canon world state is my very first playthrough. I prefer to have this for my canon so none of my choices carry any bias from previous playthroughs and it's just me roleplaying. There are also no romances in my canon state because I don't engage in them on my first run of a game. Except DAO. Damn you, Alistair. I like archers so canon Warden, Hawke, and Inquisitor are archers. They all bare some sort of resemblance to my own personality so they are partial self inserts without it being too weird for me. I don't foresee any of this changing for DA4.
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Post by Kedan on Feb 16, 2018 17:12:17 GMT
I generally trust my initial reactions, on a situation by situation basis, which means that I can and will take seemingly contradictory stances in different games. I am rarely cruel for the sake of cruelty in my canon playthroughs, though I often explore BioWare’s laughable attempts at making PC’s “evil” in alternate runs. I typically play male - human - warrior, because I find them to be the easiest to play and the blankest of canvasses to project on to. My main play throughs tend to be as diplomatic and alliance building as possible. I like being “the good guy”, more or less. Now that the keep is a thing, I will correct ‘mistakes’ or fix things I missed. It also makes it easier to create an alternate “cause as much interpersonal damage as possible” save, in case I want to see how that plays out in sequels.
Edit: Never mind. I just noticed you aren’t using your John Astin userpic anymore. Now my answer is “Do the opposite of vertigomez.”
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 16, 2018 17:41:03 GMT
Edit: Never mind. I just noticed you aren’t using your John Astin userpic anymore. Now my answer is “Do the opposite of vertigomez.” Holy shit, that was ages ago. Welcome back.
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Post by Kedan on Feb 16, 2018 17:56:58 GMT
Edit: Never mind. I just noticed you aren’t using your John Astin userpic anymore. Now my answer is “Do the opposite of vertigomez.” Holy shit, that was ages ago. Welcome back. I find myself mollified by the best romance on television. Glad to be here.
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Post by CrazyRah on Feb 16, 2018 19:27:45 GMT
My primary way of choosing what canon I will run with is what gives me the best overall narrative and what lets me tie things together in a way that I like them the most. So both my Warden and Inquisitor are Dalish because I like the connection between them of two elves being thrust into situations neither want at all and have to exist in the world of humans with all that comes with it. That both are rogues are simply down to me liking sneaky elves and bows. Hawke is a mage because of how well that worked within the story of DA2 and I found it gave me the best tools to steer the narative in the way I wanted it to go. So whatever comes next for DA I'll pick a canon that complement the already existing one the best!
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Post by Rascoth on Feb 16, 2018 20:40:46 GMT
The only canon I have is canon Hawke, not even canon DA2 pt She's pretty much my first Hawke with the only difference she's mage, so grumpy little bro lives. With DAO and DAI it's hard for me to choose canon pt. The ones I like the most are generally the ones where character 'slips' from my grasps and decides to live their own life. Like my dwarf rogue being deadly little shit when I planned to make her more serious, or my qunari warrior who became living proof that anger manangement problem is actually a thing, when she was supposed to be more 'I-don't-care' type of character. So they're the ones I favour, but not enough to call them canons. As for DA4, I'm itching for another sarcastic smartass, so if game allows, that's going to be my first character, no matter class/race
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Post by warden on Feb 16, 2018 20:44:13 GMT
The only canon I have is canon Hawke, not even canon DA2 pt She's pretty much my first Hawke with the only difference she's mage, so grumpy little bro lives. With DAO and DAI it's hard for me to choose canon pt. The ones I like the most are generally the ones where character 'slips' from my grasps and decides to live their own life. Like my dwarf rogue being deadly little shit when I planned to make her more serious, or my qunari warrior who became living proof that anger manangement problem is actually a thing, when she was supposed to be more 'I-don't-care' type of character. So they're the ones I favour, but not enough to call them canons. As for DA4, I'm itching for another sarcastic smartass, so if game allows, that's going to be my first character, no matter class/race So if I didn't get it wrong, with your DAO and DAI characters, it seems your DA4 plan of having a sarcastic smartass can end being a serious diplomatic for example is that right?
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Post by Rascoth on Feb 16, 2018 20:49:07 GMT
The only canon I have is canon Hawke, not even canon DA2 pt She's pretty much my first Hawke with the only difference she's mage, so grumpy little bro lives. With DAO and DAI it's hard for me to choose canon pt. The ones I like the most are generally the ones where character 'slips' from my grasps and decides to live their own life. Like my dwarf rogue being deadly little shit when I planned to make her more serious, or my qunari warrior who became living proof that anger manangement problem is actually a thing, when she was supposed to be more 'I-don't-care' type of character. So they're the ones I favour, but not enough to call them canons. As for DA4, I'm itching for another sarcastic smartass, so if game allows, that's going to be my first character, no matter class/race So if I didn't get it wrong, with your DAO and DAI characters, it seems your DA4 plan of having a sarcastic smartass can end being a serious diplomatic for example is that right? Generally they're not that far off, but... yes. If it's one of those characters, it might happen.
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Post by Sokemis on Feb 16, 2018 21:20:41 GMT
Holy shit, that was ages ago. Welcome back. I find myself mollified by the best romance on television. Glad to be here. Not just best romance on television, but one of best romances ever
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 16, 2018 22:38:19 GMT
I find myself mollified by the best romance on television. Glad to be here. Not just best romance on television, but one of best romances ever Ah yes, the only married couple on TV in the '60s who actually acted like they wanted to be married to each other.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 17, 2018 0:21:09 GMT
Well that's just great. Now I want Gomez Adams as a romance option on Dragon Age 4.
He'd be a Tevinter Magester and everything.
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Post by Walter Black on Feb 17, 2018 0:40:51 GMT
Well that's just great. Now I want Gomez Adams as a romance option on Dragon Age 4. He'd be a Tevinter Magester and everything. Morticia could make an interesting Magister, but height notwithstanding, Gomez is spiritually dwarven . Hell, He's already got the loophole lawyering and love of engineering and explosives down pat .
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 17, 2018 0:56:39 GMT
Morticia could make an interesting Magister, but height notwithstanding, Gomez is spiritually dwarven . Hell, He's already got the loophole lawyering and love of engineering and explosives down pat . ...Shit, you are right... Though Morticia is probably Navvaran. She'd be a necromancer for sure.
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