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Post by goishen on Apr 10, 2018 12:42:40 GMT
I've come to the conclusion that none of the higher ups at any of these gaming houses, and certainly none of the publishing houses, play games any more.
We've so weakened the word "gamer" that I could've played Pong once in 1979 and hey, I'm a gamer. Look at all of those mad phat skeelz, I know how difficult it is to move that paddle. Of course, I don't want somebody on adderall who's been up for 30 hours grinding his ass off just to be considered a gamer.
Look, it should really come as a shock to no one that BioWare is trying to branch out.... Try different things. But to go from a RPG genre to directly action based genre, I think it'll be too much of a jolt for their consumers who are expecting another RPG.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Apr 11, 2018 2:03:22 GMT
Scary af.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 11, 2018 20:08:49 GMT
Honestly, I prefer when these people use gameplay footage with their voice disembodied. It's easier to go through the video.
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 11, 2018 21:54:08 GMT
I agree. That people are being fed this steaming pile of crap of a video (and others like it) is terrifying. I watched it and their analysis of why Anthem is absolutely in trouble is: - Fuck EA
- It’s on Frostbite
- DAI was poorly received (?)
- Employees fleeing (?)
- Employees in despair (?)
- Fuck EA
- They haven’t made multiplayer (?)
- Fuck EA
ok, the YouTuber rounds off the video with 'it might be ok, what do you think?' but that doesn't make up for the preceding rant. This is exactly the type of 'lack of nuance' that was referenced in the Schreier article.
EDIT: That video really annoyed me. By all means criticize something bad (free speech etc etc) but these 'it all sucks' rant videos seem to just roll together all and any negative conjecture and state it as fact and proof. Just doesn't seem very fair to me...
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 11, 2018 22:35:19 GMT
Yippee. Yay. Anthem is confirmed for EA Play 2018. And players are already pissed off about it. Remind me to give a shit when some actual info about the game is revealed. Honestly I'm more curious and excited about Shadow of the Tomb Raider than I am for Anthem. Hell I've even morbidly curious about Cyberpunk 2077 (now some of that might be because maybe I'm in a rare self-masochistic mood given my disappointed with my last experience with The Witcher 2 and I haven't seen much from Project CD Red that I give a shit about) than Anthem. I'm having a hard time to get up the energy to love or hate Anthem it's been just "meh" to me since they revealed it. What's more I honestly don't know if that is good or bad because I'm having a hard time to find any game that rise beyond "it's not great, but it's not bad either" type vibe even off series and games that I normally would be excited for even Shadow of the Tomb Raider I'm not as excited as I was for Rise of the Tomb Raider or ME:A.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 12, 2018 14:51:38 GMT
Video trailer #2 for Anthem, may show us some solo game play. Something that I like to do.
Another hope is an Arcade mode (ie: solo vs Env.) and a free-for-all action. The latter, I admit, is a far fetch fantasy.
Also, I'd like to see more suits and Hub areas, enemies and treasure hunting, possibly Raid scenes too.
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 12, 2018 16:17:53 GMT
Video trailer #2 for Anthem Video 2 should bring some answers. I'm interested in Anthem because: 1. BioWare can string an awesome story game together. 2. BioWare are capable of excellent gameplay. 3. Mass Effect 3 multiplayer was addictive and awesome. So the ingredients are there, it remains to be seen if we get a gourmet meal...
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Post by correctamundo on Apr 12, 2018 16:32:28 GMT
Video trailer #2 for Anthem Video 2 should bring some answers. I'm interested in Anthem because: 1. BioWare can string an awesome story game together. 2. BioWare are capable of excellent gameplay. 3. Mass Effect 3 multiplayer was addictive and awesome. So the ingredients are there, it remains to be seen if we get a gourmet meal... 4. MEA:MP is addictive and awesome. And incidentally a lot more like what we will see from Anthem.
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Post by freelancer82 on Apr 12, 2018 17:53:07 GMT
So the ingredients are there, it remains to be seen if we get a gourmet meal... I prefer an all you can eat buffet!
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 12, 2018 18:13:49 GMT
So the ingredients are there, it remains to be seen if we get a gourmet meal... I prefer an all you can eat buffet! Hmmm, different tasty food. Some like different things. Some eat a lot, others a little...
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Post by freelancer82 on Apr 12, 2018 18:31:45 GMT
I prefer an all you can eat buffet! Hmmm, different tasty food. Some like different things. Some eat a lot, others a little... That is a weird buffet! Deep fried sushi? Mac n cheese?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 22:38:36 GMT
Video trailer #2 for Anthem Video 2 should bring some answers. I'm interested in Anthem because: 1. BioWare can string an awesome story game together. 2. BioWare are capable of excellent gameplay. 3. Mass Effect 3 multiplayer was addictive and awesome. So the ingredients are there, it remains to be seen if we get a gourmet meal... Yeah but some of us don't give a brass razoo about multiplayer. I've never played any MP mode in any of Bio's games, apart from a little NWN back in the day and it didn't really do anything for me. I've played SWTOR but you don't have to play with anyone else if you don't want to. Remains to be seen if Anthem will be a thing or not, at least for me.
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 12, 2018 22:48:04 GMT
Yeah but some of us don't give a brass razoo about multiplayer. That used to be my view until ME3 multiplayer (my first multiplayer) changed my mind.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 13, 2018 2:22:17 GMT
Well, Anthem may be confirmed for EA Play 2018 but I wonder if Bio has a loaned Sony PS5 to work with. Console manufacturers usually do this in advance of a product launch and to get feedback. We're talking 8 core Zen APU with VR optimization. Roumor has it that there may be a PS5 late 2018 or 2019. From an article: Sony PS5 is coming
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Post by freelancer82 on Apr 13, 2018 13:56:12 GMT
ok, the YouTuber rounds off the video with 'it might be ok, what do you think?' but that doesn't make up for the preceding rant. $100 says the same youtuber milks the EA Play gameplay demo for weeks saying how smooth and impressive the game looks.
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Post by goishen on Apr 13, 2018 14:41:52 GMT
Honestly I'm more curious and excited about Shadow of the Tomb Raider than I am for Anthem. Hell I've even morbidly curious about Cyberpunk 2077 (now some of that might be because maybe I'm in a rare self-masochistic mood given my disappointed with my last experience with The Witcher 2 and I haven't seen much from Project CD Red that I give a shit about) than Anthem. I'm having a hard time to get up the energy to love or hate Anthem it's been just "meh" to me since they revealed it. What's more I honestly don't know if that is good or bad because I'm having a hard time to find any game that rise beyond "it's not great, but it's not bad either" type vibe even off series and games that I normally would be excited for even Shadow of the Tomb Raider I'm not as excited as I was for Rise of the Tomb Raider or ME:A. I agree with this 110%. It's just meh. Until they've released some more gameplay footage of it that actually you know, excites me, I'm going back to the Shadow Of The Tomb Raider and Cyberpunk 2077 corner. Oh yah, and Starfield. That's another one that I'm optimistic about, even though it hasn't been announced by Bethesda at all. To this, I would post this. Play TW3, just power through the story if you have to. It gets better after you've killed the griffon. I dunno though, as I'm still playing it.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 13, 2018 17:13:00 GMT
Right.
If Anthem is an RPG, Bio would have said so from the start. They didn't and so it isn't.
Action RPG, I believe, is what the studio said. Whatever that means... At the moment, I'm playing the waiting game. Trailer #2 will show us more.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 13, 2018 19:27:40 GMT
Right.
If Anthem is an RPG, Bio would have said so from the start. They didn't and so it isn't.
Action RPG, I believe, is what the studio said. Whatever that means... At the moment, I'm playing the waiting game. Trailer #2 will show us more.
Action RPG has also been used to describe Mass Effect and DA games after DAO. So... I don’t know what Anthem will be.
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Post by ahglock on Apr 14, 2018 2:17:48 GMT
Honestly I'm more curious and excited about Shadow of the Tomb Raider than I am for Anthem. Hell I've even morbidly curious about Cyberpunk 2077 (now some of that might be because maybe I'm in a rare self-masochistic mood given my disappointed with my last experience with The Witcher 2 and I haven't seen much from Project CD Red that I give a shit about) than Anthem. I'm having a hard time to get up the energy to love or hate Anthem it's been just "meh" to me since they revealed it. What's more I honestly don't know if that is good or bad because I'm having a hard time to find any game that rise beyond "it's not great, but it's not bad either" type vibe even off series and games that I normally would be excited for even Shadow of the Tomb Raider I'm not as excited as I was for Rise of the Tomb Raider or ME:A. I agree with this 110%. It's just meh. Until they've released some more gameplay footage of it that actually you know, excites me, I'm going back to the Shadow Of The Tomb Raider and Cyberpunk 2077 corner. Oh yah, and Starfield. That's another one that I'm optimistic about, even though it hasn't been announced by Bethesda at all. To this, I would post this. Play TW3, just power through the story if you have to. It gets better after you've killed the griffon. I dunno though, as I'm still playing it. Man if starfield is a sci-fi standard Bethesda RPG i will nerd out for months in its world. Cyberpunk, well I'd prefer a full shadowrun game(loved shadowrun returns games but i'd prefer deeper and longer games) still cyper punk is a genre I love. Still if Anthem looks like it has enough RPG elements(at least what I consider RPG elements) I'll give it a shot.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 14, 2018 15:38:52 GMT
Right.
If Anthem is an RPG, Bio would have said so from the start. They didn't and so it isn't.
Action RPG, I believe, is what the studio said. Whatever that means... At the moment, I'm playing the waiting game. Trailer #2 will show us more.
Action RPG has also been used to describe Mass Effect and DA games after DAO. So... I don’t know what Anthem will be.
True. However, this time Bio completely failed to mention their usual mantra of romance, deep characters and story. Ergo, the studio, once again, is changing the meaning of RPG as we've come to understand, from past Bio games.
Both PCGmaer and Gamercrate describe Anthem as a MP co-op game. Traditional RPG elements aren't in MP + co-op that I'm aware of.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 14, 2018 17:02:42 GMT
Action RPG has also been used to describe Mass Effect and DA games after DAO. So... I don’t know what Anthem will be.
True. However, this time Bio completely failed to mention their usual mantra of romance, deep characters and story. Ergo, the studio, once again, is changing the meaning of RPG as we've come to understand, from past Bio games.
Both PCGmaer and Gamercrate describe Anthem as a MP co-op game. Traditional RPG elements aren't in MP + co-op that I'm aware of.
MMO’s aren’t known for those features either, yet Bioware made SWTOR. I don’t know what Anthem will or won’t have (although I doubt romances will be in at least) but I don’t see a reason to take absence of evidence as evidence of absence yet, given how little of anything at all has been shown.
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Post by correctamundo on Apr 14, 2018 18:33:58 GMT
Action RPG has also been used to describe Mass Effect and DA games after DAO. So... I don’t know what Anthem will be.
True. However, this time Bio completely failed to mention their usual mantra of romance, deep characters and story. Ergo, the studio, once again, is changing the meaning of RPG as we've come to understand, from past Bio games.
Both PCGmaer and Gamercrate describe Anthem as a MP co-op game. Traditional RPG elements aren't in MP + co-op that I'm aware of.
Except they have mentioned their "ususal mantra" time and again when talking about Anthem.
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Post by mannyray on Apr 14, 2018 20:27:17 GMT
And the whiteknuckled babyfits have begun already. I look forward to the arguments over this game in the coming year.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 14, 2018 20:40:28 GMT
True. However, this time Bio completely failed to mention their usual mantra of romance, deep characters and story. Ergo, the studio, once again, is changing the meaning of RPG as we've come to understand, from past Bio games.
Both PCGmaer and Gamercrate describe Anthem as a MP co-op game. Traditional RPG elements aren't in MP + co-op that I'm aware of.
Except they have mentioned their "ususal mantra" time and again when talking about Anthem.
Must have missed it. Link(s) ?
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