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Post by Heimdall on Apr 16, 2018 16:45:59 GMT
He said they were very frustrated at the studio about being unable to follow up on Andromeda storyline with DLC, but restates the importance of focusing on story and characters, as one expects from a Bioware experience, going into Anthem:
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Post by samhain444 on Apr 16, 2018 16:58:10 GMT
Mmmm, seemed pretty obvious what he was trying to convey...
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 16, 2018 17:00:03 GMT
He said they were very frustrated at the studio about being unable to follow up on Andromeda storyline with DLC, but restates the importance of focusing on story and characters, as one expects from a Bioware experience, going into Anthem: It's encouraging to hear at least. Hopefully we'll have a better idea of what that means in practice at EA Play.
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Post by hivemind on Apr 16, 2018 17:04:56 GMT
But nothing concrete.
To be honest, i expected this to be about how Casey leaving BioWare, giving how many important people left BioWare with a blog post.
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Post by simit on Apr 16, 2018 17:06:25 GMT
The blogs will be a interesting read, thnxz for sharing as i dont seem to ever visit there site for some reason im currently trying to think of
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 16, 2018 17:59:07 GMT
As usual, Bio reps talk a lot and say little at the same time.
I guess Bio was getting a bit nervous that their silence about the game was making the gamer community skittish. Solution?... why not send some smoke signals?
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Post by CrazyRah on Apr 16, 2018 18:09:24 GMT
Pretty clear what points he wanted to get across to us. Hopefully the walk will match the talk
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Post by giubba on Apr 16, 2018 18:41:25 GMT
He said they were very frustrated at the studio about being unable to follow up on Andromeda storyline with DLC, but restates the importance of focusing on story and characters, as one expects from a Bioware experience, going into Anthem: Also i would add that we wont see any new major change and/or addition to the "bioware formula", which from a certain point of view is a shame.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Apr 16, 2018 19:04:57 GMT
Anthem - '...that you can experience with friends'.
No thanks. DA4 please.
Also, you have a very long way to go to get trust back.
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Post by goishen on Apr 16, 2018 19:27:51 GMT
I don't really think that he overspoke. I think what he was trying to say is "We know we fucked up." I'm glad to hear it, but it's gonna take more than words to convey that.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 16, 2018 19:37:02 GMT
Hm...
He pulled out his EA/Bio Marketing Hand Book and selected the appropriate corp speak msgs designed to sooth the gamer community. Action will determine how well Bio learned from their mistakes.... though it did little for poor Andromeda.
We'll see soon enough.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 16, 2018 20:57:23 GMT
Hm...
He pulled out his EA/Bio Marketing Hand Book and selected the appropriate corp speak msgs designed to sooth the gamer community. Action will determine how well Bio learned from their mistakes.... though it did little for poor Andromeda.
We'll see soon enough.
Your relentless negativity is impressive in its consistency.
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Post by samhain444 on Apr 16, 2018 20:58:56 GMT
Hm...
He pulled out his EA/Bio Marketing Hand Book and selected the appropriate corp speak msgs designed to sooth the gamer community. Action will determine how well Bio learned from their mistakes.... though it did little for poor Andromeda.
We'll see soon enough.
Your relentless negativity is impressive in its consistency. Well, when you prepare for the worst you're never disappointed
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Post by warden on Apr 16, 2018 21:11:34 GMT
Hm...
He pulled out his EA/Bio Marketing Hand Book and selected the appropriate corp speak msgs designed to sooth the gamer community. Action will determine how well Bio learned from their mistakes.... though it did little for poor Andromeda.
We'll see soon enough.
Your relentless negativity is impressive in its consistency. The same can be said about your positivity. I see no harm in both though. My preference is a neutral approach.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 16, 2018 21:26:35 GMT
Your relentless negativity is impressive in its consistency. The same can be said about your positivity. I see no harm in both though. My preference is a neutral approach. Neutrality is what I’m doing. Pessimism isn’t neutrality. I’m not making any special effort to be positive or working to put a spin on every word spoken by a Bioware dev that fits my preconceived conclusions. I’m just feeling exasperated by those who are unwilling to wait until they actually see more than a snippet of the product before deciding it will be dreadful.
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Post by warden on Apr 16, 2018 21:54:16 GMT
The same can be said about your positivity. I see no harm in both though. My preference is a neutral approach. Neutrality is what I’m doing. Pessimism isn’t neutrality. I’m not making any special effort to be positive or working to put a spin on every word spoken by a Bioware dev that fits my preconceived conclusions. I’m just feeling exasperated by those who are unwilling to wait until they actually see more than a snippet of the product before deciding it will be dreadful. My apologize then, I must confused you with someone else. Yeah I really don't get why some people can praise the sun for a blog post or why other ones can make a doomsday out of it. It's just a simple "marketing" (to call it somehow) post from the GM, nothing really to take or make from this.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 16, 2018 22:06:22 GMT
Neutrality is what I’m doing. Pessimism isn’t neutrality. I’m not making any special effort to be positive or working to put a spin on every word spoken by a Bioware dev that fits my preconceived conclusions. I’m just feeling exasperated by those who are unwilling to wait until they actually see more than a snippet of the product before deciding it will be dreadful. My apologize then, I must confused you with someone else. Yeah I really don't get why some people can praise the sun for a blog post or why other ones can make a doomsday out of it. It's just a simple "marketing" (to call it somehow) post from the GM, nothing really to take or make from this. Well we can take away from it that he’s chosen to emphasize story and characters in their marketing... I’m not sure what that’s worth but it’s something.
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 16, 2018 22:29:12 GMT
Was nice to hear it said, notwithstanding the proof being in the pudding...
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 17, 2018 0:30:17 GMT
I saw this from mike gamble posting it on twitter (the salt is still strong in those blaming andromedas failures on Anthem 👍).
I myself absolutely love Casey Hudson’s work regardless of the few screw ups he’s had, the dude is a creative mastermind and I’m optimistic over what happens with him now in charge of Bioware.
Regarding the blog: again, I’m optimistic but it shows Hudson’s at least aware of the fanbases perspective on various things (the dude wasn’t even there when Andromeda came out yet he still acknowledges it) which should also show Bioware as a whole is aware. My biggest take is him admitting it was frustrating for Bioware not being able to put out dlc for Andromeda which should show they wanted to but something held them back (which we could debate all day long on what it was, we have nothing concrete on that matter). I’m also of the impression that he’s hinting that they’ll be expanding beyond what they normally do,and I think Anthem is proof of that with them trying a shared world game with emphasis on playing with friends (same emphasis mike gamble had in his twitter post on the blog). I’m at least excited as sometimes branching out into new territory can bring in more excitement, I’d be lieing if I said mass effect and dragon age won’t get boring at some point as franchise fatigue is a thing, furthermore as a creator myself (writing) it can get boring doing the same old thing for so long, so doing something new just opens up more possibilities as a creator.
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Post by OdanUrr on Apr 17, 2018 0:30:50 GMT
As usual, Bio reps talk a lot and say little at the same time. Sounds about right.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 17, 2018 0:58:00 GMT
I thought the blog reads a little strange. No diss to Casey, he's a smart guy.
I am curious to see what the unique thing is about Anthem though that puts it at an advantage over Destiny or Division. He's hinting at storydriven content with friends released, hopefully, in BioWare's typical DLC release patterns and volume of content so he has piqued my curiosity and I'll be giddy if they announce some form of player-between-player interaction with the narrative.
So far the only standout thing about the game is a jetpacked suit that lets me fly around a map... Um. Wow?
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Post by hivemind on Apr 17, 2018 8:16:23 GMT
Fluid in Bullshit, as they would say. The real meaning of the words have been lost to me behind all the nice corporate speech patterns.
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Apr 17, 2018 9:59:59 GMT
So BioWare are going to learn from abandoning a long-awaited single-player game just when they'd fixed it by focusing on a multi-player game which doesn't interest a large section of their core fanbase. Great. Thanks, Casey.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 17, 2018 11:21:59 GMT
I think Casey is sincere in his regret and frustration with Andromeda and what has become of the franchise he poured so much heart into. I appreciate the sentiment that they want to correct past mistakes so that people enjoy their games again. I mean, why would he NOT want his company to be popular again??
Whether or not Anthem will restore trust remains to be seen. We have seen so little of it, it's WAY too early to tell. But I see no reason to shit on his statement. To me it's a nice gesture to show they understand why so many fans have turned their backs. Kind of depressing how few people believe that people at Bioware still have confidence in their products and aren't just talking out of their asses to trick us into buying their product.
In my book Edmonton hasn't failed yet. I don't mind ME3's ending all that much. DAI was a pretty good game whose biggest flaw was the poor open world design. But their character writing and overall storytelling was very enjoyable and on par with previous games imo. Most people had issues with the visual presentation more than the actual storytelling, gameplay was a step down from DA2 to me. Gameplay arguably has never been Bioware's strong suit, so I tend to be forgiving of it.
I very much want Anthem to be successful so that Bioware not only survives but regains their confidence that in the aftermath of Andromeda must have taken an even bigger beating than the ending outrage even if Edmonton is (probably) not to blame for the latest disaster.
At the moment Bioware can't win against the bias of the disgruntled fanbase. Nobody believes a word they say anymore. That's really sad. I think we should cut Edmonton some slack here. Give them an honest chance to redeem themselves as a company. I don't doubt they are really trying.
I DO have my reservations. Or rather, like many here I'm worried that if Anthem fails Bioware will be shut down and we'll never see DA4. But let's wait and see what Anthem is REALLY like before we judge them and assume the worst.
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