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Post by 10k on Mar 10, 2018 6:33:43 GMT
I just came across this on youtube. Apparently he left and joined a smaller game company, whose games will be focused on narratives. Good luck to you Drew, and here's hoping you create another game that is better than ME. More info in this vid. I thought it was pretty interesting.
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Post by guanxi on Mar 10, 2018 7:04:28 GMT
Was he the lead-writer on Anthem? Maybe it was a bit like his situation with Mass Effect in that he was brought in mostly for during the conceptual/pre-production stage and now that they've nailed the concept/big picture and have a rough idea of where the story is going his role going foreword would have been more supervisory (i.e. supervising the character writers) less creative which didn't interest him? Writers leave all the time 2/3 of the way through a development cycle... it could be 'natural causes' rather than creative differences.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 10, 2018 7:44:22 GMT
Was he the lead-writer on Anthem? Maybe it was a bit like his situation with Mass Effect in that he was brought in mostly for during the conceptual/pre-production stage and now that they've nailed the concept/big picture and have a rough idea of where the story is going his role going foreword would have been more supervisory (i.e. supervising the character writers) less creative which didn't interest him? Writers leave all the time 2/3 of the way through a development cycle... it could be 'natural causes' rather than creative differences. I don't think he was the lead writer, but I could be wrong. When reading his blog and I said this on a similar thread on the Anthem subsection is that he might have had a severe case of "nostalgia" when he went back to BioWare and forgot how little time he had for side projects which seems to me at least what he wants to focus on.
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Post by traks on Mar 10, 2018 13:17:12 GMT
My guess would be that the story for Anthem (the base game) is finished, so I don't think it means much for that game. But it certainly crashes the hopes of those that thought he might return to Mass Effect.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 10, 2018 14:24:06 GMT
My guess would be that the story for Anthem (the base game) is finished, so I don't think it means much for that game. But it certainly crashes the hopes of those that thought he might return to Mass Effect. I think that is a good thing to be honest. I don't think people would have gotten what they expect if he was to return to that franchise for the story and writing of the first Mass Effect game was more then just Drew Karpyshyn it was the entire team of writers working on the game. He might have been the head writer, but he didn't write it alone either.
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Post by traks on Mar 10, 2018 14:38:29 GMT
My guess would be that the story for Anthem (the base game) is finished, so I don't think it means much for that game. But it certainly crashes the hopes of those that thought he might return to Mass Effect. I think that is a good thing to be honest. I don't think people would have gotten what they expect if he was to return to that franchise for the story and writing of the first Mass Effect game was more then just Drew Karpyshyn it was the entire team of writers working on the game. He might have been the head writer, but he didn't write it alone either. Same here. It might not have hurt to bring another ME veteran back, but it is also not something to be worried about. Casey Hudson will come up with a good plan for the future or not independent from such a move.
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Post by goishen on Mar 10, 2018 16:12:01 GMT
Anthem's gonna be a dumpster fire.
You heard it here first.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 10, 2018 16:49:56 GMT
Anthem's gonna be a dumpster fire. You heard it here first. Repeatedly...
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 11, 2018 2:08:53 GMT
And... Shokes @ap_shokesWith the loss of @drewkarpyshyn, one of the greatest writers in video games, .@caseydhudson .@gamblemike .@charalanahzard i have some very major concerns about @anthemgame. Will this be a story driven game that @bioware was known for? Because that's why I love your games Casey Hudson @caseydhudsonStory will always be an important part of every BioWare game. Drew has wrapped up his work on the project, but Anthem’s Lead Writers and their teams continue to do amazing work developing the world, story, and characters. Michael Gamble @gamblemikeStory has always been, and continues to be, a huge part of what we do!
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Post by Sifr on Mar 11, 2018 2:21:46 GMT
Anthem's gonna be a dumpster fire. You heard it here first. Don't be daft. Dumpster fires have direction, purpose and you can enjoy them for more than five minutes.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 11, 2018 4:04:48 GMT
Who wants to place a bet for when he ends up with Bioware again?
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Post by ahglock on Mar 11, 2018 5:14:14 GMT
Anthem's gonna be a dumpster fire. You heard it here first. Don't be daft. Dumpster fires have direction, purpose and you can enjoy them for more than five minutes. Okay, I think people are overreacting, but that was pretty good. Well done!
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Post by goishen on Mar 11, 2018 5:25:20 GMT
Sara's the one who saved DAI for me, followed up by Cassandra. No Sara, no bueno for me. MEA? Y'all know my feelings about MEA. BW's track record isn't looking so great.
Sure, they've created some great games. But don't let those nostalgia blinders fool you. Those games had some problems too.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 11, 2018 6:16:47 GMT
Sara's the one who saved DAI for me, followed up by Cassandra. No Sara, no bueno for me. MEA? Y'all know my feelings about MEA. BW's track record isn't looking so great. Sure, they've created some great games. But don't let those nostalgia blinders fool you. Those games had some problems too. I think that is why I was able to enjoy Andromeda as much as I was able to was because I do see the problems in the prior BioWare games, but for some reason there is a community that only sees the problems in BioWare games post-EA and problems in their games have been there all along.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 11, 2018 6:27:28 GMT
Sara's the one who saved DAI for me, followed up by Cassandra. No Sara, no bueno for me. MEA? Y'all know my feelings about MEA. BW's track record isn't looking so great. Sure, they've created some great games. But don't let those nostalgia blinders fool you. Those games had some problems too. Sera damn near ruined DAI for me. Worst character so far.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 6:41:12 GMT
And... Shokes @ap_shokesWith the loss of @drewkarpyshyn, one of the greatest writers in video games, .@caseydhudson .@gamblemike .@charalanahzard i have some very major concerns about @anthemgame. Will this be a story driven game that @bioware was known for? Because that's why I love your games Casey Hudson @caseydhudsonStory will always be an important part of every BioWare game. Drew has wrapped up his work on the project, but Anthem’s Lead Writers and their teams continue to do amazing work developing the world, story, and characters. Michael Gamble @gamblemikeStory has always been, and continues to be, a huge part of what we do! Sounds like more PR talk to me. It's not like they're going to say anything negative about it...
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Post by abaris on Mar 11, 2018 14:41:35 GMT
And... Shokes @ap_shokesWith the loss of @drewkarpyshyn, one of the greatest writers in video games, .@caseydhudson .@gamblemike .@charalanahzard i have some very major concerns about @anthemgame. Will this be a story driven game that @bioware was known for? Because that's why I love your games Casey Hudson @caseydhudsonStory will always be an important part of every BioWare game. Drew has wrapped up his work on the project, but Anthem’s Lead Writers and their teams continue to do amazing work developing the world, story, and characters. Michael Gamble @gamblemikeStory has always been, and continues to be, a huge part of what we do! You do realize, this is PR speak at it's purest. May be true in essence, may be not true. Noone can say one way or the other with off the shelf phrases like that.
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 11, 2018 16:20:55 GMT
The bit about Drew's work is clear:
"Drew has wrapped up his work on the project"
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Post by Sifr on Mar 11, 2018 17:56:10 GMT
And... Casey Hudson @caseydhudsonStory will always be an important part of every BioWare game. Drew has wrapped up his work on the project, but Anthem’s Lead Writers and their teams continue to do amazing work developing the world, story, and characters. Michael Gamble @gamblemikeStory has always been, and continues to be, a huge part of what we do! Don't worry, I speak PR. Here's the rough translation; Casey:Story will always be an important part of every Bioware game... even if we sometimes give you an RGB ending that makes no sense. Drew has up and left the project, now our other lead writers and teams are scrambling to figure out what the hell to do. Mike: Story has always been, and continues to be, a huge part of what we do... except when we have to cut huge chunks of that story, due to time and budget constraints, or writers quitting the project after turning in the minimal amount of work required to satisfy their contracts. --- I'm would say I'm joking, but... damn, having Drew leave for the second time doesn't make the rumours that Anthem is having a troubled production seem less credible. This is not really good news, especially with all the fear that EA might pull a Visceral on Bioware if Anthem goes belly up. Which is why Bioware should probably just abandon Anthem as they did with Shadow Realms, to focus on giving us the next Dragon Age game. That has a better chance of being a success, as well as much more support from the fandom already behind it. After ME3 and MEA, I feel like they've burned themselves out when it comes to space and science fiction.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Mar 11, 2018 18:04:43 GMT
Anthem's gonna be a dumpster fire. You heard it here first. IFirst.
Who wants to place a bet for when he ends up with Bioware again? When they break The Old Republic MMO again and need his course correction... Yeah. That is when...or when they unbury the Mass Effect series the "right" way.
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Post by goishen on Mar 11, 2018 18:05:51 GMT
EA might pull the plug on BioWare anyway. They might become the largest producer of mobile games in the industry, which I wouldn't be completely against.
Agreed, it would suck for the people at BioWare. But heh.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Mar 11, 2018 18:15:48 GMT
EA might pull the plug on BioWare anyway. They might become the largest producer of mobile games in the industry, which I wouldn't be completely against. Agreed, it would suck for the people at BioWare. But heh. Again that is doubtful... Bioware is the only EA studio that develops RPG's -for what they are worth now. That still is active in making them. Although these days maybe RPG's are a more a Niche genre like adventure and real-time strategy games are. So then again maybe is accurate.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 11, 2018 19:33:21 GMT
The bit about Drew's work is clear: "Drew has wrapped up his work on the project"But "doom and gloom" gets this site clicks 😉. It is fun to see some peeps get worked up into a froth over this...
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 11, 2018 19:38:38 GMT
Pulling stuff out of the arse threads are always an interesting read. They become about confirming whatever view people had to start with, positive or negative. Looking forward to some more information in June, though doubtless we'll have a debate about that being all PR then as well...
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