azarhal
N6
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 7,937 Likes: 21,915
inherit
1519
0
Apr 23, 2024 11:55:09 GMT
21,915
azarhal
7,937
Sept 9, 2016 12:15:16 GMT
September 2016
azarhal
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by azarhal on Jun 3, 2018 21:10:50 GMT
You think it's going to be more expensive than SWTOR?? Destiny's not more expensive than SWTOR. Oh right, SWTOR... I forgot how expensive that was.  But 7 years in development and pulling in the bulk of BW's staff in Edm & Aus - it wouldn't surprise me. Or at least close.
DAO was 7 years in development too, technically. It's not that special when it comes to new IPs, but most of those years is just an handful of people doing concepts and it cost a lot less than production does. Brenon Holmes said Anthem team had a dozen people for the first couple of years which less or more brings us to after DAI released. But MEA got most of the staff from what I remember, DAI had 3 DLCs done by different teams and SWTOR got huge expac in 2015 and 2016 too (and the second one was impacted by staff being moved to MEA). I don't see how Anthem could get a large team (~200) for production before 2017 and headcount is where most of the budget goes (dev budget, not the marketing one). |
|
inherit
3271
0
1,496
rras1994
856
February 2017
rras1994
|
Post by rras1994 on Jun 3, 2018 21:31:31 GMT
Oh right, SWTOR... I forgot how expensive that was. But 7 years in development and pulling in the bulk of BW's staff in Edm & Aus - it wouldn't surprise me. Or at least close.
DAO was 7 years in development too, technically. It's not that special when it comes to new IPs, but most of those years is just an handful of people doing concepts and it cost a lot less than production does. Brenon Holmes said Anthem team had a dozen people for the first couple of years which less or more brings us to after DAI released. But MEA got most of the staff from what I remember, DAI had 3 DLCs done by different teams and SWTOR got huge expac in 2015 and 2016 too (and the second one was impacted by staff being moved to MEA). I don't see how Anthem could get a large team (~200) for production before 2017 and headcount is where most of the budget goes (dev budget, not the marketing one). I don't think MEA got most of the staff til about late 2015/2016 time - which would account for why SWTOR went from a plan of having 3 expansions with chapters between for the Zakuul arc to having 2 expansions and then the story being wrapped up with flashpoints now I think about it..... |
|
inherit
57
0
1
Apr 19, 2024 10:39:24 GMT
32,674
SofaJockey
Not a jockey. Has a sofa.
13,126
August 2016
sofajockey
SofaJockey
SofaJockey
6000
7164
|
Post by SofaJockey on Jun 4, 2018 11:02:06 GMT
So Mike Gamble has confirmed* the box art images.  (final design simulated)
*
|
|
linksocarina
N5
Always teacher, sometimes writer
Teaching Mode Activated
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
PSN: LinksOcarina
Posts: 3,179 Likes: 4,063
inherit
Always teacher, sometimes writer
370
0
4,063
linksocarina
Teaching Mode Activated
3,179
August 2016
linksocarina
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
LinksOcarina
|
Post by linksocarina on Jun 4, 2018 13:10:38 GMT
Pretty cool box art.
|
|
inherit
410
0
Apr 23, 2024 13:01:11 GMT
2,854
Sartoz
6,019
August 2016
sartoz
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.hVm-5wNStlyTEXjhwDoa_wHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=8f745a5f30b08f8231ddb64664df7375d23cc10878aa50d66fec54e9d570c7e2&ipo=images
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Sartoz on Jun 4, 2018 14:57:38 GMT
MATURE
Content is generally suitable for ages 17 and up. May contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language.
I can see the violence, gore and blood in this game.... but nothing else.
EDIT: Notice the "not rated for online interaction" disclaimer.
We have a confirmation of either audio/text chat then....
|
|
azarhal
N6
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 7,937 Likes: 21,915
inherit
1519
0
Apr 23, 2024 11:55:09 GMT
21,915
azarhal
7,937
Sept 9, 2016 12:15:16 GMT
September 2016
azarhal
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by azarhal on Jun 4, 2018 15:30:57 GMT
Those boxes are fan made (by a French Anthem fansite). People made mock-up and Gamble confirmed the image was for the box art. Also, voice-chat was in last year gameplay trailer.
ESRB haven't rated it yet.
|
|
inherit
1482
0
3,373
Fredward
1,342
September 2016
fredward
http://bsn.boards.net/board/40/dragon-age-4
|
Post by Fredward on Jun 4, 2018 15:56:20 GMT
It sure is... colorful.
|
|
inherit
410
0
Apr 23, 2024 13:01:11 GMT
2,854
Sartoz
6,019
August 2016
sartoz
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.hVm-5wNStlyTEXjhwDoa_wHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=8f745a5f30b08f8231ddb64664df7375d23cc10878aa50d66fec54e9d570c7e2&ipo=images
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Sartoz on Jun 4, 2018 16:57:25 GMT
Those boxes are fan made (by a French Anthem fansite). People made mock-up and Gamble confirmed the image was for the box art. Also, voice-chat was in last year gameplay trailer. ESRB haven't rated it yet.
Really? Hm... Awesome fans then....  |
|
inherit
57
0
1
Apr 19, 2024 10:39:24 GMT
32,674
SofaJockey
Not a jockey. Has a sofa.
13,126
August 2016
sofajockey
SofaJockey
SofaJockey
6000
7164
|
Post by SofaJockey on Jun 4, 2018 18:26:16 GMT
So Mike Gamble has confirmed* the box art images. (final design simulated)Yep, the French ones reference Europes PEGI. FYI: All versions are fake  The reason the above post says 'final design simulated' is because I simulated it this morning using the Mass Andromeda box as a template.   |
|
inherit
231
0
Jan 20, 2022 14:46:14 GMT
1,840
goishen
twitch.tv/goishen
2,360
August 2016
goishen
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire
goishen
|
Post by goishen on Jun 4, 2018 23:08:43 GMT
I don't think it's possible to market a new IP correctly.
Make another DA or ME game, one that doesn't uhhhhh, suck. And then come out with a new game. I had issues with DAI, but those are in the past, and they are well documented.
MEA was just a major misstep in every direction, even the combat. It didn't feel like a ME game. It felt like a game, sure. But a CoD game.
Me? I don't think that right now's the time to be putting out a brand new IP. Guess we'll see at EAPlay come this weekend.
|
|
inherit
1482
0
3,373
Fredward
1,342
September 2016
fredward
http://bsn.boards.net/board/40/dragon-age-4
|
Post by Fredward on Jun 5, 2018 5:42:09 GMT
I would've sold my left nut for a DA/ME like game set in a (more or less) contemporary setting. I can still remember thinking that might be what Anthem was.
|
|
Heimdall
N6
∯ Interjector in Chief
Staff Mini-Profile Theme: Heimdall
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Origin: HeimdallX
Posts: 5,574 Likes: 12,623
inherit
∯ Interjector in Chief
279
0
1
Apr 23, 2024 13:23:45 GMT
12,623
Heimdall
5,574
August 2016
heimdall
Heimdall
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
HeimdallX
|
Post by Heimdall on Jun 5, 2018 15:56:50 GMT
I would've sold my left nut for a DA/ME like game set in a (more or less) contemporary setting. I can still remember thinking that might be what Anthem was. I was about 50/50 between contemporary urban fantasy and victorian steampunk in my hopes before we found out. |
|
inherit
410
0
Apr 23, 2024 13:01:11 GMT
2,854
Sartoz
6,019
August 2016
sartoz
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.hVm-5wNStlyTEXjhwDoa_wHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=8f745a5f30b08f8231ddb64664df7375d23cc10878aa50d66fec54e9d570c7e2&ipo=images
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Sartoz on Jun 5, 2018 16:14:50 GMT
I don't think it's possible to market a new IP correctly. Make another DA or ME game, one that doesn't uhhhhh, suck. And then come out with a new game. I had issues with DAI, but those are in the past, and they are well documented. MEA was just a major misstep in every direction, even the combat. It didn't feel like a ME game. It felt like a game, sure. But a CoD game. Me? I don't think that right now's the time to be putting out a brand new IP. Guess we'll see at EAPlay come this weekend.
Hm... Possibly the best time. The studio is diverting attention from past mistakes with a new and potentially successful game. Don't get me wrong. I like DA and ME series. Game studios need to try something different now and then. David Weber, a well known sci-fi writer once said writing the same thing (series ) over and over will get the mind stale. That's why he branched out into other stories then came back to continue on the older ones.
I believe it applies to all game studios.
|
|
duckley
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 527 Likes: 831
inherit
625
0
831
duckley
527
August 2016
duckley
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by duckley on Jun 7, 2018 5:22:00 GMT
What hostility and why? Haven't heard much about Anthem other than this board. Perhaps I've spent too much time online. There's a fair bit of hostility on YouTube against mostly EA, and against BioWare for killing Mass Effect and Anthem for killing Mass Effect. That said if such individuals were so keen on saving Mass Effect perhaps they shouldn't have wallowed in the 'my face hurts' memes at launch defining MEA. Maybe 'mainstream folk' are less hostile as this recent poll suggests: Well that' s unfortunate. Bioware ain't perfect and I was certainly pissed that MEA was killed, but I don' think they deserve hate and hostility. |
|
inherit
277
0
8,672
QuizzyBunny
No 1 Bunny-gif spammer on BSN
2,388
August 2016
theycallmebunny
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
InquisitorBunny
430
1114
|
Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 7, 2018 9:44:44 GMT
What hostility and why? Haven't heard much about Anthem other than this board. Perhaps I've spent too much time online. There's a fair bit of hostility on YouTube against mostly EA, and against BioWare for killing Mass Effect and Anthem for killing Mass Effect. That said if such individuals were so keen on saving Mass Effect perhaps they shouldn't have wallowed in the 'my face hurts' memes at launch defining MEA. Maybe 'mainstream folk' are less hostile as this recent poll suggests: I've also noted that people on YouTube tend to either be indifferent or, more often than not, outright hostile. They keep talking about BioWare in past tense, as if it's dead, and they blame EA for everything and say BioWare haven't made a worthwhile game since ME3 (sans ending). I can understand being disappointed MEA had some issues at launch, and maybe not as good of a story as ME1, but people are being outright ridiculous! DAI was, unlike MEA, met with a lot of praise and seems to have been one of their more popular games, so bashing it is more of a personal preference than something that reflects mainstream opinion. I really hope they can manage to build the hype more during E3, I'm looking forward to Anthem (although not as much as ME or DA) and I really want it to do well. |
|
inherit
410
0
Apr 23, 2024 13:01:11 GMT
2,854
Sartoz
6,019
August 2016
sartoz
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.hVm-5wNStlyTEXjhwDoa_wHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=8f745a5f30b08f8231ddb64664df7375d23cc10878aa50d66fec54e9d570c7e2&ipo=images
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Sartoz on Jun 7, 2018 15:08:21 GMT
I really hope they can manage to build the hype more during E3, I'm looking forward to Anthem (although not as much as ME or DA) and I really want it to do well.
You mean a good, fun game with replay-ability? That I'd go for. |
|
inherit
277
0
8,672
QuizzyBunny
No 1 Bunny-gif spammer on BSN
2,388
August 2016
theycallmebunny
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
InquisitorBunny
430
1114
|
Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 7, 2018 15:40:29 GMT
I really hope they can manage to build the hype more during E3, I'm looking forward to Anthem (although not as much as ME or DA) and I really want it to do well.
You mean a good, fun game with replay-ability? That I'd go for. Of course, I want it to be an amazing game I can play with friends and still retain the distinct BioWare-feel to it, and I want other people to like it as well.  |
|
azarhal
N6
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 7,937 Likes: 21,915
inherit
1519
0
Apr 23, 2024 11:55:09 GMT
21,915
azarhal
7,937
Sept 9, 2016 12:15:16 GMT
September 2016
azarhal
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by azarhal on Jun 7, 2018 17:15:48 GMT
I've also noted that people on YouTube tend to either be indifferent or, more often than not, outright hostile. They keep talking about BioWare in past tense, as if it's dead, and they blame EA for everything and say BioWare haven't made a worthwhile game since ME3 (sans ending). I can understand being disappointed MEA had some issues at launch, and maybe not as good of a story as ME1, but people are being outright ridiculous! DAI was, unlike MEA, met with a lot of praise and seems to have been one of their more popular games, so bashing it is more of a personal preference than something that reflects mainstream opinion. I really hope they can manage to build the hype more during E3, I'm looking forward to Anthem (although not as much as ME or DA) and I really want it to do well. The mainstream hate for DAI started after The Witcher 3 released. It's an interesting historical revision caused by social media pressure (i.e. the pressure to "fit-in", DAI was out, TW3 was in). I'm not sure if I want BioWare to build more hype of Anthem. There isn't a lots of people hyped for it here, but elsewhere on the web the game is already overhyped, probably to catastrophic level already. BioWare will never live up to what some people are expecting. |
|
inherit
410
0
Apr 23, 2024 13:01:11 GMT
2,854
Sartoz
6,019
August 2016
sartoz
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.hVm-5wNStlyTEXjhwDoa_wHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=8f745a5f30b08f8231ddb64664df7375d23cc10878aa50d66fec54e9d570c7e2&ipo=images
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Sartoz on Jun 7, 2018 20:20:18 GMT
Anthem demo #2 will generate its own hype for graphical display.
I'm unsure about the actual game play or solo adventuring. Exploration with the Nomad in Andromeda felt lackluster after the hype and I fear the delivery of Anthem vs marketing will turn out to be similar. No doubt, Anthem will be described as the 8th Wonder of the World.
|
|
