Does anyone else always side with Meredith? Dec 30, 2019 3:27:32 GMT
Post by Noxluxe on Dec 30, 2019 3:27:32 GMT
I've addressed your points many times. The only reason you are claiming otherwise is because you don't want to acknowledge that your argument didn't get the results you wanted.
You are claiming facts not in evidence. There is no indication that the Circles have tried different policies over the years. In fact, one of the main grievances of the mages is that the Circle refuses to consider alternate ideas or any form of internal change.
Solitary confinement, especially for periods as long as a year, is considered a form of torture in the real world. That it is still legal presents a moral failing on the part of institutions that still use it. The effect that it had on Anders is an obvious contributor to why his possession by Justice ended so differently from Wynne's possession by Faith. And again, the Circle that engages in that form of torture is considered overly-permissive by the others.
Yes, I have refuted the analogy. You just don't want to admit that it doesn't work.
Just because things have been done in the past doesn't mean they were necessary. It is possible to quarantine people without being inhumane about it. It happened to my grandmother and her siblings multiple times in the days before modern vaccines. My grandfather lost two younger brothers because someone with whooping cough wasn't quarantined, but that does not mean that it would have been necessary to treat that epidemic's patient zero inhumanely.
Your arguments are predicted on a failure to understand how people think, which is why all of your solutions will inevitably lead to further conflict due to the resentment of people who are being treated inhumanely for crimes they have not committed.
Mhm-mhm, then I'll be happy to hear where you got that definition and see it in full, since it's such a reliable basis for you to dismiss people's arguments.
Clearly, you live in a fantasy world where inhumane acts can never be necessary even in the most extreme circumstances, where an organization that has existed for a thousand years and according to the records changed a lot in that time must never have wavered at all with those of their policies you disagree with, and where morality and ethics are things that spring up out of nowhere because they just make sense to people, and certainly don't take thousands upon thousands of years to gradually develop and refine.
That's just lovely.
I'd really like to see that definition on trolling, and then I'm not going to continue this discussion with you. It's too weird, and we're both too stubborn.