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Post by Iddy on Jul 20, 2018 12:24:05 GMT
In both DAO and DA2, it was very easy to reach over 100 sovereigns by the end of the game, but I never had even half of that in my DAI pts. It seems like the devs made gathering money harder while all decent equipment got crazy expensive.
As for experience, I wonder if it is possible to reach lvls 20+ without killing dragons.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 20, 2018 13:31:27 GMT
The repeatable war table missions are probably the most efficient way to get gold and resources. But you must have had more than 100 sovereigns at some point, cause stuff starts costing more than that very early on.
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Post by Iddy on Jul 20, 2018 14:17:22 GMT
The repeatable war table missions are probably the most efficient way to get gold and resources. But you must have had more than 100 sovereigns at some point, cause stuff starts costing more than that very early on. Nah. Most of my stuff was loot.
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Post by Gilli on Jul 20, 2018 14:21:37 GMT
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- sell what you don't use - do the repeatable War Table missions
I always had tons of gold in DAI. Especially after they introduced the Golden Nug, because I just sold everything I didn't intend to keep (Purples, Uniques and stuff)
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Post by kira on Jul 21, 2018 0:21:34 GMT
Yeah, if in doubt (I'd like to use this some day, but won't now) I always sell. Push comes to shove, I always have crafting materials on hand so can make good things if I need to. Gold's never a problem. That said I tend to go around doing a lot of things and looting lots of stuff, just the way I play RPGS I guess?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 21, 2018 1:56:23 GMT
Yeah, if in doubt (I'd like to use this some day, but won't now) I always sell. Push comes to shove, I always have crafting materials on hand so can make good things if I need to. Gold's never a problem. That said I tend to go around doing a lot of things and looting lots of stuff, just the way I play RPGS I guess? Yeah I pretty much just make what I need an dsell what I don't use or am not likely to need any more Most of the time I have more than enough. But yeah if you do end up lootin ga lo tof it is best turned into gold by selling as you'll most likely won't need it if you're using crafted stuff as crafted stuff is generally better.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2018 2:27:22 GMT
I only play normal mode, so maybe gold and exp is far more restrictive on higher difficulty. I've never suffered lack of either, but maybe it's just my slow and thorough play style. I tend to do as many quests as possible on any map, even play fetch the hay for the farmer - Hinterlands alone makes me level over 10. If anything, I have the opposite problem. When the story recommends a certain level I am not done with the million quests before I need to go to another area. There are basically bajillion easy quests giving you bajillion exp. In my first game I killed zero dragons. They're messy fights, so, I very rarely kill them. In terms of gold, I've never suffered the shortage, however, our purchasing styles might be different. I begin buying armour only when I get to higher levels. Until 15 I don't bother. Though, sometimes the Haven final battle gives me trouble, so, I may buy something to help me then. That's around lvl 12, I think. I'm also the Inquisitor loot grabby hands who picks up anything shiny like climbing in through the window of the above mentioned farmer to swipe five coins off his table. All that pile of level 5 junk ends up bringing coin, so, I tend to quest until my bags are bursting, run to sell junk. In any case, I've never ran out of money for a thingy I wanted to purchase. So I tend to pick up all loots mobs drops, plus all boxes and sell everything except for what the party is wearing. I only did the Titans quest once, but it pretty much the best armour in the game, better than what you can buy. I found DA2 and DAO more restrictive in terms of gold than Inquisition, especially nightmare mode on DAO.
Anyway, I hope this answer is kind of helpful?
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 21, 2018 2:40:08 GMT
I find I'm usually broke because I spend all the gold on schematics. But that's what the gold's for, right?
XP can be a problem if you're not using Even Ground, since awards plummet as you start to outlevel stuff. Although the value of levelling up drops past 20 or so, since you'll have all the important stuff for your build by then.
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Post by duskwanderer on Jul 21, 2018 2:44:13 GMT
Sell your valuables (the "gem" icon). Almost none of them are useful for anything. Also don't forget to sell runes and upgrades to weapons you're not using. You'll get pots of cash.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jul 21, 2018 2:49:36 GMT
I find I'm usually broke because I spend all the gold on schematics. But that's what the gold's for, right? But isn't this a non-issue in successive plays once you've used the Golden Nug? Or do you not like using it for whatever reason?
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Post by simit on Jul 21, 2018 2:51:41 GMT
Get a chest, loot everything apart from 1 item, save game, load game, rinse an repeat, also works on loot piles from rift closures.
Do Descent an loot everything = profit
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 21, 2018 7:38:52 GMT
I find I'm usually broke because I spend all the gold on schematics. But that's what the gold's for, right? But isn't this a non-issue in successive plays once you've used the Golden Nug? Or do you not like using it for whatever reason? I don't see the point of the Nug. If anything, it takes a few bad things about the game -- lack of difficulty, a broken economy, relatively little interesting loot -- and makes them worse.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jul 21, 2018 7:59:26 GMT
I don't see the point of the Nug. If anything, it takes a few bad things about the game -- lack of difficulty, a broken economy, relatively little interesting loot -- and makes them worse. It's so you don't have to farm or buy the same shit over and over again, especially important with the farmed schematics. Everything else is a matter of personal perspective.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Jul 21, 2018 8:06:32 GMT
In both DAO and DA2, it was very easy to reach over 100 sovereigns by the end of the game, but I never had even half of that in my DAI pts. It seems like the devs made gathering money harder while all decent equipment got crazy expensive. Really? Is it even possible to never have more than 50 gold without actively trying to stay under that number? You can get a few hundred selling one piece of purple quality loot, can't you? Probably, but why would you want to?
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Post by Iddy on Jul 21, 2018 14:33:14 GMT
In both DAO and DA2, it was very easy to reach over 100 sovereigns by the end of the game, but I never had even half of that in my DAI pts. It seems like the devs made gathering money harder while all decent equipment got crazy expensive. Really? Is it even possible to never have more than 50 gold without actively trying to stay under that number? You can get a few hundred selling one piece of purple quality loot, can't you? Probably, but why would you want to? That's true in DAO/DA2 at least. Because I'm not comfortable with hunting an endangered species unless absolutely necessary.
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 21, 2018 19:10:37 GMT
I don't see the point of the Nug. If anything, it takes a few bad things about the game -- lack of difficulty, a broken economy, relatively little interesting loot -- and makes them worse. It's so you don't have to farm or buy the same shit over and over again, especially important with the farmed schematics. Everything else is a matter of personal perspective. Have to farm schematics? Is this one of those Gamer's OCD things? Edit: I'm serious here. Can you walk me through why people feel the need to do that?
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Post by melbella on Jul 21, 2018 19:28:41 GMT
It's so you don't have to farm or buy the same shit over and over again, especially important with the farmed schematics. Everything else is a matter of personal perspective. Have to farm schematics? Is this one of those Gamer's OCD things? Not necessarily. Schematic drops are random, so you never know what you're going to get until you get it. Some things you just can't buy - you have to get them through drops. With using the nug, once they drop, they can be uploaded so you no longer have to worry about being lucky enough to get the exact one you want (or spend time farming for it until you do).
While I like having all schematics available from the get-go, my favorite use for the nug is seeds. I no longer have to make a special trip back to Fallow Mire to find blood lotus seeds - I can start growing it as soon as the garden is set up in Skyhold.
As for OPs question - kill everything, loot everything, and sell everything you won't use.
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 21, 2018 19:44:34 GMT
Wouldn't it be easier to simply not worry about getting the exact one you want? That's why I brought up OCD.
Edit: I suppose this is similar to not being able to stand NG+ too. Getting a pile of stuff at the sttrt just means that there's less to look forward to while playing. Gameplay is worse and has fewer rewards.
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Post by melbella on Jul 21, 2018 19:52:40 GMT
Wouldn't it be easier to simply not worry about getting the exact one you want? That's why I brought up OCD. People want what they want for all sorts of reasons - looks, effectiveness, roleplay, etc. Wouldn't it be easier to play an elf since only elves can wear Dalish robes? Yeah, sure, but what if I don't want to play an elf?
To me, the OCD reason would be just to have it, whether I wanted to use it or not.
Edit: I suppose this is similar to not being able to stand NG+ too. Getting a pile of stuff at the sttrt just means that there's less to look forward to while playing. Gameplay is worse and has fewer rewards. Ah, your own form of OCD? For me, after having played through the game multiple times, I just want to play and not have to worry about all the mechanics stuff. So, I nug it and use mods to remove/change things I find annoying. Game mechanics should enhance the experience, not make it a grind.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jul 21, 2018 20:25:27 GMT
Wouldn't it be easier to simply not worry about getting the exact one you want? That's why I brought up OCD. To me it's not about OCD. I don't try to collect all the things. It's about appearance. I like my character to look a certain way. The farming thing it irrelevant to me regardless, as I used Cheat Engine long ago to give me everything and used that play to load up the Golden Nug. Edit: I suppose this is similar to not being able to stand NG+ too. Getting a pile of stuff at the sttrt just means that there's less to look forward to while playing. Gameplay is worse and has fewer rewards. In the end, it just comes down to having different goals with the gameplay. To me, these games aren't about combat and character progression through gear and leveling, but about story, characters, and roleplay. I don't make myself OP, but using slightly better gear at the beginning of the game because I like how it looks doesn't concern me at all.
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Post by simit on Jul 21, 2018 22:33:39 GMT
Wouldn't it be easier to simply not worry about getting the exact one you want? That's why I brought up OCD. Edit: I suppose this is similar to not being able to stand NG+ too. Getting a pile of stuff at the sttrt just means that there's less to look forward to while playing. Gameplay is worse and has fewer rewards. You said it yourself in a prior comment, loot is mediocre at best an nothing really drops that is of any interest outside Taken shape set which only becomes available in Trespasser so is mute, Trespasser did add some no bad necklaces, rings etc to overall game but for weapons n armour theres no really anything of worth outside schematics an i'd rather enjoy gameplay, exploration, dialogue or just mindless wandering to tge frustration that was rng schematic hunting ALL PRAISE THE MIGHTY NUG
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 21, 2018 23:06:45 GMT
Wouldn't it be easier to simply not worry about getting the exact one you want? That's why I brought up OCD. Edit: I suppose this is similar to not being able to stand NG+ too. Getting a pile of stuff at the sttrt just means that there's less to look forward to while playing. Gameplay is worse and has fewer rewards. You said it yourself in a prior comment, loot is mediocre at best an nothing really drops that is of any interest outside Taken shape set which only becomes available in Trespasser so is mute, Trespasser did add some no bad necklaces, rings etc to overall game but for weapons n armour theres no really anything of worth outside schematics an i'd rather enjoy gameplay, exploration, dialogue or just mindless wandering to tge frustration that was rng schematic hunting ALL PRAISE THE MIGHTY NUG The most interesting thing which drops is schematics, so the answer is to just give yourself all the schematics and make loot completely worthless? Even the good items won't be good anymore since you've got the T3 schematics. Plus making the gameplay worse since your gear is now overpowered. Although I suppose you can spend time thinking about how much to gimp yourself. Edit: chests, anyway. You still gotta loot corpses for cloth and leather. Edit again: I guess the reason this sounds ridiculous to me is that I don't understand the "frustration" you mention I don't see why not having the perfect items is any more frustrating than being level 1 rather than level 30.
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Post by simit on Jul 21, 2018 23:54:39 GMT
It no about perfect items for me, i found the game far to easy on nightmare with nothing nvm all schematics, it about killing while looking fabulous Im all for adding sets back into the game tbh, one of the things i liked about DA:O was saying to myself i want that juggernaut set so im going to Brecilian or i want the Legion of dead set so of to Orzammar or Wade items so grind some mats, problem with DA:I you dont really have that option, an i for one cant be arsed with rng in a sp game, if it was a case of this boss/elite drops x schematic then the nug wouldn't be needed i'd simply kill the mob but its not, i like the Coat arms schematic but it took me about 4 playthroughs to see one an that was me cheesing chests to try get it to spawn hence the need for the nug. It's no about fe fi fo fum am a powerful bum, it's about simple aesthetics an no looking like a bum, i always use coat arms even though they dont max stats because of the look of them nothing more an in a sp game after being through it as many times as i have looking fab is where its at
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Post by melbella on Jul 22, 2018 1:06:05 GMT
You said it yourself in a prior comment, loot is mediocre at best an nothing really drops that is of any interest outside Taken shape set which only becomes available in Trespasser so is mute, Trespasser did add some no bad necklaces, rings etc to overall game but for weapons n armour theres no really anything of worth outside schematics an i'd rather enjoy gameplay, exploration, dialogue or just mindless wandering to tge frustration that was rng schematic hunting ALL PRAISE THE MIGHTY NUG The most interesting thing which drops is schematics, so the answer is to just give yourself all the schematics and make loot completely worthless? Even the good items won't be good anymore since you've got the T3 schematics. Plus making the gameplay worse since your gear is now overpowered. Although I suppose you can spend time thinking about how much to gimp yourself. Edit: chests, anyway. You still gotta loot corpses for cloth and leather. Edit again: I guess the reason this sounds ridiculous to me is that I don't understand the "frustration" you mention I don't see why not having the perfect items is any more frustrating than being level 1 rather than level 30.
Let's not kid ourselves - going back to level 1 IS annoying. As for OPness, I actually prefer a lot of the T3 schematics over the T4 because, even though T4 gives you better stats, for whatever reason they changed the appearance and therefore I don't like them as much.
Now, if someone would only fix the bugged out shoulder piece that sticks out sideways, everything would be grand. That is usually the one I'd prefer to use but the fact it sticks straight out on one side (only on females, ofc ) makes it unwearable for me.
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Post by Tittus on Jul 22, 2018 1:45:38 GMT
Kill Snoufleur at the frozen lake in Emprise du Lion. You get thousands of gold in few hours.
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