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This series is so borked at this point they need a complete restart, and quite possibly a hard reboot.

Hard reboot, I believe, is the only way forward. There's too much apathy toward the franchise and MEA in particular to move forward. I think they could have done a sequel to MEA had they not abandoned it but that window has closed.

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Post by Sanunes on Aug 26, 2018 13:00:04 GMT

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This series is so borked at this point they need a complete restart, and quite possibly a hard reboot.

Hard reboot, I believe, is the only way forward. There's too much apathy toward the franchise and MEA in particular to move forward. I think they could have done a sequel to MEA had they not abandoned it but that window has closed.

I don't see how them leaving Andromeda in the state it is in now would be any different then if they had completed the DLC for the majority of people out there. Besides I rarely hear people being that over enthused about movies that go under the "hard reboot" approach. Due to it being content we already know and I think BioWare games are like that as well due to people playing them more for the story and characters then the gameplay mechanics. The story of Shepard and the Reapers is pretty much the origin story for Humanity and The Reapers and it will just be retreading so much of what we already know unless you want them to make a Shepard story and the Reapers never happen and I don't think that would go over well either for in my eyes it would be retconning major aspects of the Mass Effect universe since everything that happened in the past of this universe was building up to a conflict with The Reapers.

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Post by griffith82 on Aug 26, 2018 14:08:43 GMT

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This series is so borked at this point they need a complete restart, and quite possibly a hard reboot.

Hard reboot, I believe, is the only way forward. There's too much apathy toward the franchise and MEA in particular to move forward. I think they could have done a sequel to MEA had they not abandoned it but that window has closed.

A hard reboot would not go over well at all unless it is completely different from what we originally got. And that would imo be even worse. They can still move forward with Andromeda it's never too late.

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Aug 26, 2018 14:08:43 GMT griffith82 said:

Hard reboot, I believe, is the only way forward. There's too much apathy toward the franchise and MEA in particular to move forward. I think they could have done a sequel to MEA had they not abandoned it but that window has closed.

A hard reboot would not go over well at all unless it is completely different from what we originally got. And that would imo be even worse. They can still move forward with Andromeda it's never too late.

It would go over fine with me. But, that's just, like, my opinion man.

Just like everything you post, opinion.

I agree they can move forward with Andromeda. I don't understand why - going to another galaxy was the stupidest thing they could have done. The vastly unexplored Milky Way is more familiar, has more established variety of life etc etc.

Those of you that love Andromeda do so because it takes you away from the Mess Effect of the Milky Way. It was a cowardly way out for the writers, and you gobbled it up.

Cognitive dissonance.

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Aug 26, 2018 15:09:16 GMT Qui-Gon GlenN7 said:

Aug 26, 2018 14:08:43 GMT griffith82 said:

A hard reboot would not go over well at all unless it is completely different from what we originally got. And that would imo be even worse. They can still move forward with Andromeda it's never too late.

It would go over fine with me. But, that's just, like, my opinion man.

Just like everything you post, opinion.

I agree they can move forward with Andromeda. I don't understand why - going to another galaxy was the stupidest thing they could have done. The vastly unexplored Milky Way is more familiar, has more established variety of life etc etc.

Those of you that love Andromeda do so because it takes you away from the Mess Effect of the Milky Way. It was a cowardly way out for the writers, and you gobbled it up.

Cognitive dissonance.

I love both but because of how the trilogy ended going back is a mistake.

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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 26, 2018 15:29:27 GMT

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This series is so borked at this point they need a complete restart, and quite possibly a hard reboot.

Hard reboot, I believe, is the only way forward. There's too much apathy toward the franchise and MEA in particular to move forward. I think they could have done a sequel to MEA had they not abandoned it but that window has closed.

I would hate that. Despite its faults no reboot would ever live up to the original. People would constantly be comparing it to the original and finding all its "faults" for not being the OT.

It think that's the most likely outcome. The game couldn't be viewed as an original work but instead as a pale imitation of the real thing.

If ME were rebooted, it would only be to bring the MW back. Beyond that, it would have to be a completely different story with an all-new cast. It would almost be like starting from scratch except we could have the same set of alien races. No Shepard, no VS's, no Wrex, etc. In fact, not even the same combination of races for squadmates. Cerberus would be a big no for me unless brought back to its ME1 roots - a terrorist organization that isn't wealthier than the volus.

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Aug 26, 2018 15:09:16 GMT Qui-Gon GlenN7 said:

Aug 26, 2018 14:08:43 GMT griffith82 said:

A hard reboot would not go over well at all unless it is completely different from what we originally got. And that would imo be even worse. They can still move forward with Andromeda it's never too late.

It would go over fine with me. But, that's just, like, my opinion man.

Just like everything you post, opinion.

I agree they can move forward with Andromeda. I don't understand why - going to another galaxy was the stupidest thing they could have done. The vastly unexplored Milky Way is more familiar, has more established variety of life etc etc.

This is why I think the AI could have instead been a group of people exploring the unseen parts of the MW. MEA could, after a fashion, be rebooted in that fashion. The kett, remnant and angara could still be there. In fact, the lack of biotics could be part of why the Reapers never built mass relays or invaded that area. Just ideas, though I'd still rather move forward with MEA.

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Post by helios969 on Aug 26, 2018 16:34:11 GMT

Maybe I should put it like this. How likely does anyone think the EA suits are going to pony up another 40 million to continue the Andromeda experiment given it was a critical disaster and a marginal financial success. Of course these discussions may be meaningless if Anthem tanks (which ironically many around here are hoping for).

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Post by deus on Aug 26, 2018 17:22:20 GMT

Aug 26, 2018 16:34:11 GMT helios969 said:

Maybe I should put it like this. How likely does anyone think the EA suits are going to pony up another 40 million to continue the Andromeda experiment given it was a critical disaster and a marginal financial success. Of course these discussions may be meaningless if Anthem tanks (which ironically many around here are hoping for).

I think its extremely childish to wish for a game to fail.

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Aug 26, 2018 16:34:11 GMT helios969 said:

Maybe I should put it like this. How likely does anyone think the EA suits are going to pony up another 40 million to continue the Andromeda experiment given it was a critical disaster and a marginal financial success. Of course these discussions may be meaningless if Anthem tanks (which ironically many around here are hoping for).

I think its extremely childish to wish for a game to fail.

Glad someone around here sees that. It's even more perplexing coming from so-called fans of Bioware. You'd think they'd be more open to something different because it's Bioware. Nope. No pixel love fest, I'm out. Shared online experience...omg I'm might actually have to converse with another human...ahhhh! (Forgive me my AC is out and I'm sitting in an 87F condo so my snark is in overdrive).

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Post by Sanunes on Aug 26, 2018 20:37:34 GMT

I think its extremely childish to wish for a game to fail.

Glad someone around here sees that. It's even more perplexing coming from so-called fans of Bioware. You'd think they'd be more open to something different because it's Bioware. Nope. No pixel love fest, I'm out. Shared online experience...omg I'm might actually have to converse with another human...ahhhh! (Forgive me my AC is out and I'm sitting in an 87F condo so my snark is in overdrive).

Its how I see it too. A lot of the time I see posts that come across as "You didn't make the game I want, I don't care that others like those things I hate them and you are poopyheads for not making a game designed just for me."

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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 26, 2018 20:41:46 GMT

I think its extremely childish to wish for a game to fail.

Glad someone around here sees that. It's even more perplexing coming from so-called fans of Bioware. You'd think they'd be more open to something different because it's Bioware. Nope. No pixel love fest, I'm out. Shared online experience...omg I'm might actually have to converse with another human...ahhhh! (Forgive me my AC is out and I'm sitting in an 87F condo so my snark is in overdrive).

Know what we find funny, people who say that they must like a game because its a Bioware game, but not realising that said game is not for everyone.

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Post by Iakus on Aug 26, 2018 21:08:24 GMT

I think its extremely childish to wish for a game to fail.

Glad someone around here sees that. It's even more perplexing coming from so-called fans of Bioware. You'd think they'd be more open to something different because it's Bioware. Nope. No pixel love fest, I'm out. Shared online experience...omg I'm might actually have to converse with another human...ahhhh! (Forgive me my AC is out and I'm sitting in an 87F condo so my snark is in overdrive).

I am not going to be held hostage like that.

If I don't like what a game offers, I'm not going to buy it. Full stop. If the game fails, it fails, you are not going to make me feel guilty for not buying it because their next game MIGHT have what actually made me a Bioware fan to begin with. Frankly, I kinda regret even getting MEA.

No, I don't want a "shared online experience" Yes, I do like romances in games. No, I don't like having to pony up real-world cash for stuff, even if it is purely cosmetic.

And if people think I'm "not a real Bioware fan" because, hey, they've shown me FA of what actually makes me interested enough to buy a game, oh, well. Since I'm don't plan on buying they game, then we don't have to converse! We all win!

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Aug 26, 2018 21:08:24 GMT Iakus said: