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Post by Phantom on Aug 23, 2018 0:30:54 GMT
Basicly the game is how you join Cerberus due to a Terrorist attack that had ties to Saren. How a Batarian Prison Warden, Turian Blackops Commander and his team, Brilliant Asari Engineer and Unethical(equal or nastier than Unethical Cerberus Scientist) Salarian Scientist that loves Genetic engineering related to the Terrorist Attack and how and why they are working for Saren.
The PC would be the one of the Iconic ME3 Cerberus Phantom. true One of the first melee weapons is a Cerberus Electric Sword and Unlike the flashier sword-fighters, he will be quick, fast and practical and deal high damage. Also during the game, Krogan Warhammer will be obtained and the Batarian Gaunlets. Due to the PC's past as Martial artist, he will find and develop ways to be even more effective with all melee weapons without be flashy.
He would mock the Flashier martial artists with their little dances and throw their asses to the ground.
Turian Blackops Commander is known for his anti human stances and believes that Humans are advancing beyond their station. Eager to put humans in their place joins Saren
Batarian Prison Warden was one of the Batarian Slavers during Skyllian Blitz and was on Mindoir during its assault. Wanting Blood and supports Saren
Brilliant Asari Engineer is known Asari Nationalist and believes that Human are not as intelligent as Asari or even her. Blacklisted an Alliance Engineer for calling her out for a mistake she did that cause many death. Joins Saren in research into FTL and Element Zero.
Salarian Scientist is researching for Saren how Reaper Implants and Nanotech work on organic flesh.
End Game is that The PC as a Cerberus Phantom with his two allies(an Cerberus Engineer and Cerberus Nemesis) will fighting intensely within Keeper Tunnels, fighting Reaper Husks(new and old versions), Cloned Krogan Berserkers and Geth Forces. Objective is to stop the awakening of a Reaper Construct and prevent it from joining Sovereign. And boss fight is against an Ancient Reaper Guardian.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 23, 2018 2:48:56 GMT
I prefer Shepard, but do agree that humanity is superior
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Post by Son of Dorn on Aug 23, 2018 3:12:27 GMT
I prefer Shepard, but do agree that humanity is superior Compered to the Council races, then yes. As for what we voted for, we voted for popcorn. Because its tasty! (but asari brains are even tastier!).
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Post by isaidlunch on Aug 23, 2018 3:56:07 GMT
And the protagonist's name... Kai Leng!
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Post by Gileadan on Aug 23, 2018 6:25:55 GMT
If EA made such a game your Cerberus agent would probably defect to the Alliance around mission #3.
I voted "Cerberus is overdone".
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 23, 2018 7:26:19 GMT
Cerberus is overdone and so is Shepard and whole ME1-3 timeline.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 23, 2018 17:06:18 GMT
I said I hate Cerberus but the reality is that I think they're evil and why would I want to play an evil protagonist?
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Post by Phantom on Aug 23, 2018 17:50:47 GMT
To Dmc, Main reason is to be different from Shepard. Another reason is to show a darker side of Mass Effect. Keeping with the Humans are bastards tvtrope, you can roleplay as an complete utter bastard or as heroic as you want while you are working for Cerberus. An underlining themes with those Aliens within my original post are the type of people would love to take humanity down several notches due to that they believe that Humanity is gaining too much power.
There will be several people(humans and Aliens) that believes that System Alliance is too powerful too quickly and are working to take them down and advocating that Humans to be made into Second Class Citizens.
Gileadan, Well I have another idea you might like. It does need some work. with my Cerberus Agent/Phantom, Post Reaper War Mass Effect, he would have the option to restore the System Alliance to its former glory.
Well His story arch does include him witnessing the Destruction of Cerberus, System Alliance and the Council as functional factions. Due to his sense of humor and situation, he calls his cell, "The Last Legion." For they are the only living Cell of Cerberus due to that the rest of Cerberus was destroyed by various means including Reapers and the Turians(reference Mass Effect Retribution). Yes System Alliance would be hit very hard and one of the reasons it last long with my ideas is due to Shepard and Hackett and Anderson's leadership.
There will be new Factions to shoot up including Black Talons(a para-military organization with a large infrastructure to pull off a ME3 Cerberus aka Second Coming of the Sith Empire very early on without Space Magic), Paragons of Our Kind(Pro Alien Organization with human members within it that thinks the System Alliance is too powerful) and other factions.
To isaidlunch, yes you can roleplay like Kai Leng with this character if you want too.
To themikefest, I am not opposing in having Shepard cameos or Switching back and forth with the Cerberus Phantom. Because I know how Popular Shepard is and if he does appear, I want it to be tastefully done.
There are plenty of Ideas that need work. Like Meeting Much Older Grunt and have him cracking a Joke if there are any more Collectors to fight and having option to laugh with him. Or having Liara as a villain.
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Post by copper on Aug 23, 2018 22:18:01 GMT
Meh, I'm not really interested in anything in the trilogy's timeline.
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Post by opuspace on Sept 3, 2018 18:23:18 GMT
I like the option to choose the protagonist's stance. I think it could have been interesting if Shepard had the option in the second game to join Cerberus instead of turning themselves into the Alliance. That would have increased the replayability of the trilogy though I can't say as to how doable it'd be. Shame the trilogy missed out on more nuanced exploration of each side's actions. I would have been impressed to find out Sur'Kesh was holding a human tailored virus because of worry over humanity's actions whether it was due to overaggressive actions inthe first game or due to Cerberus behavior.
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Post by Sanunes on Sept 3, 2018 18:35:59 GMT
I like the option to choose the protagonist's stance. I think it could have been interesting if Shepard had the option in the second game to join Cerberus instead of turning themselves into the Alliance. That would have increased the replayability of the trilogy though I can't say as to how doable it'd be. Shame the trilogy missed out on more nuanced exploration of each side's actions. I would have been impressed to find out Sur'Kesh was holding a human tailored virus because of worry over humanity's actions whether it was due to overaggressive actions inthe first game or due to Cerberus behavior. The thing about those type of choices is they are either an illusion or they will cut down the overall length of the game to make sure they have enough content for the paths. If there is dialogue they would have to duplicate the parts that are exclusive to each choice and probably add more dialogue which means other dialogue would be stripped out of the game in one fashion or another. Think about Mass Effect 3 and how the returning companions were treated. Each one of the primary companions from the other games aside from Liara had an alternate character created to fill those roles if they had died. So to prevent having to record massive amounts of dialogue for each of those character Liara became the exposition dump in Mass Effect 3 for she was the only guaranteed character to return.
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Post by opuspace on Sept 3, 2018 18:44:24 GMT
I like the option to choose the protagonist's stance. I think it could have been interesting if Shepard had the option in the second game to join Cerberus instead of turning themselves into the Alliance. That would have increased the replayability of the trilogy though I can't say as to how doable it'd be. Shame the trilogy missed out on more nuanced exploration of each side's actions. I would have been impressed to find out Sur'Kesh was holding a human tailored virus because of worry over humanity's actions whether it was due to overaggressive actions inthe first game or due to Cerberus behavior. The thing about those type of choices is they are either an illusion or they will cut down the overall length of the game to make sure they have enough content for the paths. If there is dialogue they would have to duplicate the parts that are exclusive to each choice and probably add more dialogue which means other dialogue would be stripped out of the game in one fashion or another. Think about Mass Effect 3 and how the returning companions were treated. Each one of the primary companions from the other games aside from Liara had an alternate character created to fill those roles if they had died. So to prevent having to record massive amounts of dialogue for each of those character Liara became the exposition dump in Mass Effect 3 for she was the only guaranteed character to return. It's possible in some small ways by keeping most of the missions the same but keeping certain teammates locked out like James or to handwaving it so that Shepard is undercover infiltrating the Alliance until the end. With Liara, a lot backfired on them for ignoring player choice and given the amount of work they put into having multiple outcomes and choices, I'm less inclined to let them railroad while advertising as an RPG. I don't expect them to overhaul it now, it's just fun to muse how certain aspects could have been explored.
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 5, 2018 19:11:37 GMT
I chose MEA with Ryder twins, and also I AM KROGAN.
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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Sept 14, 2018 2:17:36 GMT
You deserve points for an interesting concept. I voted "no" though because I would prefer any additional entries in the series to include at least a basic race selection option.
The only real issue with your design is that there is no way for the player to choose a different moral stance. It is like locking the player into Renegade auto-dialogue in Mass Effect 3. Having only one personality type could still allow for gradations and nuances though.
Still, your idea could make for a decent novel or short story.
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Post by Phantom on Sept 14, 2018 2:40:51 GMT
You deserve points for an interesting concept. I voted "no" though because I would prefer any additional entries in the series to include at least a basic race selection option. The only real issue with your design is that there is no way for the player to choose a different moral stance. It is like locking the player into Renegade auto-dialogue in Mass Effect 3. Having only one personality type could still allow for gradations and nuances though. Still, your idea could make for a decent novel or short story. This Cerberus Phantom "hero" is meant to be nuance that is an unsung hero to see the gritter side of the Milk Way. In short, he is not Shepard nor Ryder. I have other ideas for him ranging from Fighting an Avatar of Harbringer in Dark Space to interacting your Shepard to watching the galaxy going to Hell during Mass Effect 3 and knowing his cells is one of the last ones of Cerberus is that is not dead. I would love to see a trio of Vorchas as heroes. or Turian. Or Geth. In Short, my Cerberus Phantom idea could use improvement but in short, I prefer a good Mass effect game above all us.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 15, 2018 1:03:36 GMT
I hate Cerberus and am sick unto death of "let's be dark and gritty and force the player to work for the 'bad guys'" stories.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 15, 2018 2:36:49 GMT
I hate Cerberus and am sick unto death of "let's be dark and gritty and force the player to work for the 'bad guys'" stories. Yep. This crap is influencing everything, from TV to comics to movies. (I just made a comic thread that discusses this one comic that's diverged from "grim 'n' gritty".) Can't we just have an entertaining game where the good guy is actually a good guy?
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Post by Phantom on Sept 25, 2018 19:01:07 GMT
I know that it is a pipe dream but a humorous reference where the Cerberus Phantom would parody Kai Leng and also referencing Deception that he ate Anderson's cereal and kill another with a sharpen toothbrush. The Sharpen Toothbrush will become an option Melee Weapon to troll enemies with.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 25, 2018 19:54:00 GMT
I hate Cerberus and am sick unto death of "let's be dark and gritty and force the player to work for the 'bad guys'" stories. Cerberus is awesome. At least in ME2. In ME3 they became the keystone cops. Anyways. My Shepard wasn't forced to work with them. She sure as heck wouldn't want to work with the Alliance. Look at what they did or rather a lack of what they did. They decide its a good idea to put Shepard under house arrest for 6 months instead of having him/her find a way to stop the reapers. For 2 years they did a whole lot of nothing to find a way to stop the reapers while Shepard was dead. Even Anderson tell's Shepard it's up to him/her to find a way to stop the reapers. He never cared. But it gets better. Before facing the committee, he wants Shepard to help find a way to stop the reapers. **** him. **** the Alliance. Say what you want about Cerberus, but without them, Shepard would still be dead and the reapers would have harvested the galaxy.
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Post by Basquemercat117 on Sept 25, 2018 20:56:45 GMT
If i were to play as cerberus i would want to play them in their infantcy when they were a black ops unit, by ME1 they had already gone down hill and were an awful organization.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 26, 2018 3:30:42 GMT
If i were to play as cerberus i would want to play them in their infantcy when they were a black ops unit, by ME1 they had already gone down hill and were an awful organization. Which is fine except that by ME2 they were changed so that they were not a rogue Alliance black ops group but instead an ultra-powerful pro-human organization that had been around for decades. Decidedly not the group that had recently departed from the Alliance in ME1.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 29, 2018 3:23:36 GMT
If i were to play as cerberus i would want to play them in their infantcy when they were a black ops unit, by ME1 they had already gone down hill and were an awful organization. Which is fine except that by ME2 they were changed so that they were not a rogue Alliance black ops group but instead an ultra-powerful pro-human organization that had been around for decades. Decidedly not the group that had recently departed from the Alliance in ME1. They are the same group. Even mentioned in ME3.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 29, 2018 17:33:51 GMT
Which is fine except that by ME2 they were changed so that they were not a rogue Alliance black ops group but instead an ultra-powerful pro-human organization that had been around for decades. Decidedly not the group that had recently departed from the Alliance in ME1. They are the same group. Even mentioned in ME3. They say so but it doesn't like up. The Cerberus in ME1 was a recently departed rogue black ops organization for the Alliance. By the time ME2 rolled around, they were a group that came out of the First Contact War. That group was not part of the Alliance. So, sure, the game says they're the same but only because BW retconned their history between ME1 and ME2. My post was considerably sarcastic.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 29, 2018 23:46:09 GMT
They are the same group. Even mentioned in ME3. They say so but it doesn't like up. The Cerberus in ME1 was a recently departed rogue black ops organization for the Alliance. By the time ME2 rolled around, they were a group that came out of the First Contact War. That group was not part of the Alliance. So, sure, the game says they're the same but only because BW retconned their history between ME1 and ME2. My post was considerably sarcastic. Those were splinter groups of the black ops group and Kotoku may not have had all the Intel.
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Post by dmc1001 on Sept 30, 2018 4:12:06 GMT
They say so but it doesn't like up. The Cerberus in ME1 was a recently departed rogue black ops organization for the Alliance. By the time ME2 rolled around, they were a group that came out of the First Contact War. That group was not part of the Alliance. So, sure, the game says they're the same but only because BW retconned their history between ME1 and ME2. My post was considerably sarcastic. Those were splinter groups of the black ops group and Kotoku may not have had all the Intel. This doesn't even make sense. The Cerberus in ME1 was an Alliance black ops splinter group. Which is to say, it came out of the Alliance. Are you seeing the issue here?
1 ) 2149: Alliance is founded. 2 ) 2157: Cerberus (a terrorist organization) is founded. 3 ) ~2183: An Alliance black ops group (Cerberus) goes rogue. It doesn't even matter what Kahoku knew. What he did know is that Cerberus had recently defected from the Alliance. Note how "2" comes before "3". What we have here is an independent Cerberus group that began ~26 years before 2183 somehow defected around 2183? Does that make any sense whatsoever?
Sorry, but that's a retcon.
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