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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 26, 2018 16:51:48 GMT
I just read an article about Cyberpunk 2077. One of the things mentioned was that your PC isn't locked into a single class. You know what other game did the same? MEA. Now, that may be where similarities end but it does mean that MEA got "something right" in the eyes of critics.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 16:57:14 GMT
I just read an article about Cyberpunk 2077. One of the things mentioned was that your PC isn't locked into a single class. You know what other game did the same? MEA. Now, that may be where similarities end but it does mean that MEA got "something right" in the eyes of critics. The Elder Scrolls games did this LONG before MEA though... Edit: It's nothing new that's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 17:18:15 GMT
Hell, the list continues...
-Deus Ex -Fallout -Divinity Original Sin -Dark Souls -Bloodborne -Dishonored -Elex -The Technomancer -The Witcher -Star Ocean The Last Hope
These are just a few games in my Steam Library and before Andromeda and I'm sure there are plenty more. If I remember correctly there are a couple old school jrpg's in the past that dropped the class system...
Edit: Legend of Dragoon (1999 ), Vagrant Story ( 2000)!
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Post by Sanunes on Nov 26, 2018 17:27:53 GMT
No, that was actually neither of the things that popped to my mind. #1 would be people voting multiple times to make the game look the way they want. That’s why I don’t trust online polls where anyone can vote, not just with games but with anything. So what your saying is that people are spend all day making multiple email or facebook accounts just to sway a score... Edit: So I am right then? You're "implying" people are "haters" for giving DAI such a low score or "fanboys" for giving TW3 such a high one right? You're implying something, that's for sure... Organized campaigns to sink a review score isn't new, review bombing on Steam or that Metacritic deleted Mass Effect 3 player reviews because they violated policies. Maybe that the one guy that never played Mass Effect: Andromeda to say "Can't bang the new doctor 0/10". Player reviews lack context for the majority of the ones I have seen are extremes. There is also the context of who posts on the internet to give reviews, its not a sampling reflective of society most of the times its group of people that have similar opinions already.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 17:55:33 GMT
So what your saying is that people are spend all day making multiple email or facebook accounts just to sway a score... Edit: So I am right then? You're "implying" people are "haters" for giving DAI such a low score or "fanboys" for giving TW3 such a high one right? You're implying something, that's for sure... Organized campaigns to sink a review score isn't new, review bombing on Steam or that Metacritic deleted Mass Effect 3 player reviews because they violated policies. Maybe that the one guy that never played Mass Effect: Andromeda to say "Can't bang the new doctor 0/10". Player reviews lack context for the majority of the ones I have seen are extremes. There is also the context of who posts on the internet to give reviews, its not a sampling reflective of society most of the times its group of people that have similar opinions already. Ok, then she is implying that it was due to the haters right? She clearly said that it wasn't her #1 reason then goes on to "imply" it (keyword being imply). You fail to see how long that would take though. Let's take Gmail...you need a different phone number each time to make a new email account. I don't know how many phones you have laying around but I've got 2. Why didn't "haters" just go review bomb TW3? To me there is a clear difference in the amount of people that voted and praised one vs the other. And as you already stated, Meta already went out and deleted those that violated the policies and yet we still see the difference. But lets not forget the people who CLEARY stated in their review that they gave DAI a 10/10 just to offset the reviews. It happened on both sides so it's cleary a moot point.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 26, 2018 18:19:38 GMT
Organized campaigns to sink a review score isn't new, review bombing on Steam or that Metacritic deleted Mass Effect 3 player reviews because they violated policies. Maybe that the one guy that never played Mass Effect: Andromeda to say "Can't bang the new doctor 0/10". Player reviews lack context for the majority of the ones I have seen are extremes. There is also the context of who posts on the internet to give reviews, its not a sampling reflective of society most of the times its group of people that have similar opinions already. Ok, then she is implying that it was due to the haters right? She clearly said that it wasn't her #1 reason then goes on to "imply" it (keyword being imply). You fail to see how long that would take though. Let's take Gmail...you need a different phone number each time to make a new email account. I don't know how many phones you have laying around but I've got 2. Why didn't "haters" just go review bomb TW3? To me there is a clear difference in the amount of people that voted and praised one vs the other. And as you already stated, Meta already went out and deleted those that violated the policies and yet we still see the difference. But lets not forget the people who CLEARY stated in their review that they gave DAI a 10/10 just to offset the reviews. It happened on both sides so it's cleary a moot point. Actually I was implying it was not people being haters of Bioware but people being fanboys of CDPR. There are many who treat them like they are the second coming of Jesus. And that was only one reason I said, a part of the whole. Don't put words into my mouth.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Nov 26, 2018 18:19:59 GMT
Yep, Metacritic bombing is nothing new. Cant really trust them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 18:21:23 GMT
Ok, then she is implying that it was due to the haters right? She clearly said that it wasn't her #1 reason then goes on to "imply" it (keyword being imply). You fail to see how long that would take though. Let's take Gmail...you need a different phone number each time to make a new email account. I don't know how many phones you have laying around but I've got 2. Why didn't "haters" just go review bomb TW3? To me there is a clear difference in the amount of people that voted and praised one vs the other. And as you already stated, Meta already went out and deleted those that violated the policies and yet we still see the difference. But lets not forget the people who CLEARY stated in their review that they gave DAI a 10/10 just to offset the reviews. It happened on both sides so it's cleary a moot point. Actually I was implying it was not people being haters of Bioware but people being fanboys of CDPR. There are many who treat them like they are the second coming of Jesus. And that was only one reason I said, a part of the whole. Don't put words into my mouth. Hater of one, fanboy (this is funny coming from you with MEA) of the other...same damn arguement!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 18:22:14 GMT
Yep, Metacritic bombing is nothing new. Cant really trust them. OK, what stopped the "haters" from bombing TW3? I'll give you some time to think....
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 26, 2018 18:23:09 GMT
Actually I was implying it was not people being haters of Bioware but people being fanboys of CDPR. There are many who treat them like they are the second coming of Jesus. And that was only one reason I said, a part of the whole. Don't put words into my mouth. Hater of one, fanboy (this is funny coming from you with MEA) of the other...same damn arguement! Not necessarily. One can be a fanboy of one thing yet let bygones be bygones. Then we have people like some of the posters here who hate every single game Bioware has ever produced and come on here just to hate on it while praising the ground CDPR walks on. But again, that's just one reason that adds to the difference.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 18:27:10 GMT
Hater of one, fanboy (this is funny coming from you with MEA) of the other...same damn arguement! Not necessarily. One can be a fanboy of one thing yet let bygones be bygones. Then we have people like some of the posters here who hate every single game Bioware has ever produced and come on here just to hate on it while praising the ground CDPR walks on. But again, that's just one reason that adds to the difference. And the reverse is just as true with people (like you) whom hate anything The Witcher related. You just refuse to acknowledge your bias on it. Still, explain to me where all the haters were when TW3 came out. Maybe, just maybe, there really weren't that many and the vast majority really did enjoy it!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 26, 2018 18:31:52 GMT
Not necessarily. One can be a fanboy of one thing yet let bygones be bygones. Then we have people like some of the posters here who hate every single game Bioware has ever produced and come on here just to hate on it while praising the ground CDPR walks on. But again, that's just one reason that adds to the difference. And the reverse is just as true with people (like you) whom hate anything The Witcher related. You just refuse to acknowledge your bias on it. Still, explain to me where all the haters were when TW3 came out. Maybe, just maybe, there really weren't that many and the vast majority really did enjoy it! I never said nobody enjoyed it. For someone who commonly tells people to read posts before responding, you really need to follow your own advice.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 18:33:26 GMT
And the reverse is just as true with people (like you) whom hate anything The Witcher related. You just refuse to acknowledge your bias on it. Still, explain to me where all the haters were when TW3 came out. Maybe, just maybe, there really weren't that many and the vast majority really did enjoy it! No, I acknowledge my bias. That's why I don't participate on the Witcher forums or vote it down. I never said nobody enjoyed it. For someone who commonly tells people to read posts before responding, you really need to follow your own advice. You need to just come out and say what you mean. Stop beating around the damn bush with me. I'm still waiting on that list by the way...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 26, 2018 18:34:16 GMT
No, I acknowledge my bias. That's why I don't participate on the Witcher forums or vote it down. I never said nobody enjoyed it. For someone who commonly tells people to read posts before responding, you really need to follow your own advice. You need to just come out and say what you mean. Stop beating around the damn bush with me. I'm still waiting on that list by the way... I've said what I mean. You need to stop putting words in other people's mouths. You're acting like a troll at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 18:38:22 GMT
You need to just come out and say what you mean. Stop beating around the damn bush with me. I'm still waiting on that list by the way... I've said what I mean. You need to stop putting words in other people's mouths. You're acting like a troll at this point. You've yet to answer any of my questions directly. Where's my list or at least answer me why 12k fans can keep a 92% rating vs 4.5k and a 74% rating. This isn't due to review bombing. That could have easily been done to TW3 but it wasn't. All I've ever said is one seemed to be enjoyed more than the other (better received)...that's it!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 26, 2018 18:39:37 GMT
I've said what I mean. You need to stop putting words in other people's mouths. You're acting like a troll at this point. You've yet to answer any of my questions directly. Where's my list or at least answer me why 12k fans can keep a 92% rating vs 4.5k and a 74% rating. This isn't due to review bombing. That could have easily been done to TW3 but it wasn't. All I've ever said is one seemed to be enjoyed more than the other...that's it! I'm not bringing up the other reasons because if you responded this way to one then I'm not in any hurry to see your reaction to some of the others.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 18:40:39 GMT
You've yet to answer any of my questions directly. Where's my list or at least answer me why 12k fans can keep a 92% rating vs 4.5k and a 74% rating. This isn't due to review bombing. That could have easily been done to TW3 but it wasn't. All I've ever said is one seemed to be enjoyed more than the other...that's it! I'm not bringing up the other reasons because if you responded this way to one then I'm not in any hurry to see your reaction to some of the others. That's what I thought was going to happen anyway. Good day to ya!
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 28, 2018 8:09:01 GMT
There are many reasons I can think of that have nothing to do with the quality of the game. Ok, do share? Let me guess, your #1 will be that they all were just haters against Bioware right? It would seem that way.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 28, 2018 8:15:16 GMT
*Looking at Andromeda and Inquisition* Both are better than any of the Witcher games.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 28, 2018 8:35:58 GMT
Both are better than any of the Witcher games. Another game that was better than the Witcher. I will take that clip to mean you agree with me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 12:53:02 GMT
Another game that was better than the Witcher. I will take that clip to mean you agree with me. Wait...wasn't it a Bioware Dev crying about a Zelda game causing the poor reception of Andromeda??? But I agree, Zelda WW was a pretty damn fun game. At this point I'm just giving you a hard time to balance out the bias...
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Post by ahglock on Nov 28, 2018 15:51:00 GMT
Another game that was better than the Witcher. I will take that clip to mean you agree with me. Yup. Wind waker was dope and better than any Witcher game. for me the gameplay on the Witcher was worse than mass effect 1. And the protagonist wasn’t good enough to make me want to slog through such bad gameplay. Even Witcher 3 had crap gameplay. Honestly like game of thrones I think the Witcher is over hyped due to being edgy. People have replaced edgy for good in stories due to how safe so many stories have become that it excites them making them think a pretty average to crap story is actually good. While I roll my eyes and say how edgy, there is something to be said for not taking the super safe predictable route almost every other game, movie, book, show does. The mass effect series had that to a limited degree with renegade interrupts, super jerk Shepard etc. I think they lost that in mea which became way too tame in story(bad things happen, resolved it way too predictable ways) and characters.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 29, 2018 0:24:00 GMT
Another game that was better than the Witcher. I will take that clip to mean you agree with me.
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Post by cloud9 on Nov 29, 2018 0:28:57 GMT
Another game that was better than the Witcher. I will take that clip to mean you agree with me. Wait...wasn't it a Bioware Dev crying about a Zelda game causing the poor reception of Andromeda??? But I agree, Zelda WW was a pretty damn fun game. At this point I'm just giving you a hard time to balance out the bias... This is exactly what I'm talking about. As soon as BioWare create a poor quality game, they blame on another game to not the admit the fact that they fucked it up.
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