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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 18:29:45 GMT
It keeps everything stuck on earth - makes the two poles, keep planets in orbit around the sun, etc.
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Post by Terminator Force on Nov 30, 2018 18:31:17 GMT
It keeps everything stuck on earth - makes the two poles, keep planets in orbit around the sun, etc. Yes, but how does it do that? What's the cause?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 18:34:00 GMT
It keeps everything stuck on earth - makes the two poles, keep planets in orbit around the sun, etc. Yes, but how does it do that? What's the cause? The sun is one reason why we have gravity on Earth as we do, due the nature of it's dance with the earth. Or even the magnetic boiling, hot core of the Earth that's always on the move. Either one really.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Nov 30, 2018 18:34:58 GMT
Why do flat earthers believe what they do? Why don't they believe in space? What's outside that dome? We only believe what we can prove. What can you prove? As for what's outside the dome, who knows, it's just more assertions. Lets deal with things we can prove. We have proven Mars and the other planets are globes, spinning, with atmospheres. How do they keep their atmospheres?
Where is your evidence for a solid dome sky? You can't see it being solid or not, so how do you know? Prove it.
Where is the edge of the earth? Prove it.
Pick one, if you like. I offered to let you pick a proof before, and you haven't.
Fact is, all these flat earth 'proofs' are fallicies that boil down to "The bible said so". You hav no evidence that what you believe is true. No proof, so you are asking us to provide proof that you're wrong.
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Post by Terminator Force on Nov 30, 2018 18:38:49 GMT
Yes, but how does it do that? What's the cause? The sun is one reason why we have gravity on Earth as we do, due the nature of it's dance with the earth. Or even the magnetic boiling, hot core of the Earth that's always on the move. Either one really. Word salad. The mainstream definition of gravity is bending of space time. Now unless you can vary and manipulate space time (whatever that is), you can't scientifically validate gravity.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 18:39:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 18:44:04 GMT
The sun is one reason why we have gravity on Earth as we do, due the nature of it's dance with the earth. Or even the magnetic boiling, hot core of the Earth that's always on the move. Either one really. Word salad. The mainstream definition of gravity is bending of space time. Now unless you can vary and manipulate space time (whatever that is), you can't scientifically validate gravity.
How?
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Post by Terminator Force on Nov 30, 2018 18:45:21 GMT
We only believe what we can prove. What can you prove? As for what's outside the dome, who knows, it's just more assertions. Lets deal with things we can prove. We have proven Mars and the other planets are globes, spinning, with atmospheres. How do they keep their atmospheres?
Where is your evidence for a solid dome sky? You can't see it being solid or not, so how do you know? Prove it.
Where is the edge of the earth? Prove it.
Pick one, if you like. I offered to let you pick a proof before, and you haven't.
Fact is, all these flat earth 'proofs' are fallicies that boil down to "The bible said so". You hav no evidence that what you believe is true. No proof, so you are asking us to provide proof that you're wrong.
How have we proved Mars and other planets? Already told you the fact the we live in a pressurized system is the necessary antecedent to a container. Can't have one without the other. Nor can it be demonstrated otherwise. Where is the edge of the Earth? What does that have to do with anything? Can you show me the edge of space? There's no need for assertions. Alright, I'll pick one, Measurement of the Earth's circumference. You asserting I have no evidence is another assertion. Lets avoid this.
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Post by Terminator Force on Nov 30, 2018 18:46:30 GMT
Word salad. The mainstream definition of gravity is bending of space time. Now unless you can vary and manipulate space time (whatever that is), you can't scientifically validate gravity.
How?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Nov 30, 2018 18:47:05 GMT
Gravity is defined as the attraction between two bodies with mass. Or something. The space time thing is an extrapolation of the base definition.
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Post by Terminator Force on Nov 30, 2018 18:49:53 GMT
Gravity is defined as the attraction between two bodies with mass. Or something. The space time thing is an extrapolation of the base definition. Wrong, they're completely different.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Nov 30, 2018 18:56:31 GMT
We have proven Mars and the other planets are globes, spinning, with atmospheres. How do they keep their atmospheres?
Where is your evidence for a solid dome sky? You can't see it being solid or not, so how do you know? Prove it.
Where is the edge of the earth? Prove it.
Pick one, if you like. I offered to let you pick a proof before, and you haven't.
Fact is, all these flat earth 'proofs' are fallicies that boil down to "The bible said so". You hav no evidence that what you believe is true. No proof, so you are asking us to provide proof that you're wrong.
How have we proved Mars and other planets? Already told you the fact the we live in a pressurized system is the necessary antecedent to a container. Can't have one without the other. Nor can it be demonstrated otherwise. Where is the edge of the Earth? What does that have to do with anything? Can you show me the edge of space? There's no need for assertions. Alright, I'll pick one, Measurement of the Earth's circumference. You asserting I have no evidence is another assertion. Lets avoid this. Mars has been observed, via telescopes and other devices, for hundreds of years.
You are asserting a fact. Prove it. While you're at it, consider that the air pressure in a container is uniform, while on earth the air pressure changes with altitude or depth. Good luck!
You believe the earth just goes on forever? If it's flat there must be an edge. Your diagram you posted before shows a very clear edge, capped by the walls of the solid dome you are claiming exists. You are asserting this in an accurate representation of the earth. Prove it. Show me the damn edge.
I never mentioned the earths circumference. They came up with it via measuring the curve of the earth. Yo know, all those laser experiments, and horizon observations you want to hand wave away due to it not fitting your favourite theory.
Don't make me assert it then. Provide some. Show me the edge of the earth. You've investigated this, surely, observed it yourself. You must have, since you only believe what you observe. Right? Forgot a camera perhaps? That's awfully convenientunfortunate.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Nov 30, 2018 19:00:08 GMT
Gravity is defined as the attraction between two bodies with mass. Or something. The space time thing is an extrapolation of the base definition. Wrong, they're completely different. Gravity is most accurately described by the general theory of relativity (proposed by Albert Einstein in 1915) which describes gravity not as a force, but as a consequence of the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass. The most extreme example of this curvature of spacetime is a black hole, from which nothing—not even light—can escape once past the black hole's event horizon.[3] However, for most applications, gravity is well approximated by Newton's law of universal gravitation, which describes gravity as a force which causes any two bodies to be attracted to each other, with the force proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Nov 30, 2018 19:01:34 GMT
Wrong, they're completely different. Newton sounds more accurate than Einstein. Einstein's is simply a more accurate description of the cause. They really amount to the same thing. If you jump up, you fall back down.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 19:02:35 GMT
Newton sounds more accurate than Einstein. Einstein's is simply a more accurate description of the cause. They really amount to the same thing. If you jump up, you fall back down. I ended up deleting it when I saw your post.
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Post by Terminator Force on Nov 30, 2018 19:07:50 GMT
How have we proved Mars and other planets? Already told you the fact the we live in a pressurized system is the necessary antecedent to a container. Can't have one without the other. Nor can it be demonstrated otherwise. Where is the edge of the Earth? What does that have to do with anything? Can you show me the edge of space? There's no need for assertions. Alright, I'll pick one, Measurement of the Earth's circumference. You asserting I have no evidence is another assertion. Lets avoid this. Mars has been observed, via telescopes and other devices, for hundreds of years.
You are asserting a fact. Prove it. While you're at it, consider that the air pressure in a container is uniform, while on earth the air pressure changes with altitude or depth. Good luck!
You believe the earth just goes on forever? If it's flat there must be an edge. Your diagram you posted before shows a very clear edge, capped by the walls of the solid dome you are claiming exists. You are asserting this in an accurate representation of the earth. Prove it. Show me the damn edge.
I never mentioned the earths circumference. They came up with it via measuring the curve of the earth. Yo know, all those laser experiments, and horizon observations you want to hand wave away due to it not fitting your favourite theory.
Don't make me assert it then. Provide some. Show me the edge of the earth. You've investigated this, surely, observed it yourself. You must have, since you only believe what you observe. Right? Forgot a camera perhaps? That's awfully convenientunfortunate.
How does looking at lights in the sky validate that they're tangible objects in the sky? No assertions being made. Can't have pressure without a container, can show examples of this all day. Can you demonstrate a gas pressure without a container? Good luck, because it defies the second law of thermodynamics; entropy. But if you can debunk entropy, you'll be famous. Never said the Earth goes forever or presented an accurate representation of the Earth. There's no need for speculations. No, you asked me to pick one of your Earth proofs to focus on, so choose what's your evidence for measurement of Earth's circumference? Not sure why you're so interested in the Edge of the Earth so much. This a segue to talk about Antarctica? Don't we have to many things on the dinner plate?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 19:09:41 GMT
Mars has been observed, via telescopes and other devices, for hundreds of years. You are asserting a fact. Prove it. While you're at it, consider that the air pressure in a container is uniform, while on earth the air pressure changes with altitude or depth. Good luck!
You believe the earth just goes on forever? If it's flat there must be an edge. Your diagram you posted before shows a very clear edge, capped by the walls of the solid dome you are claiming exists. You are asserting this in an accurate representation of the earth. Prove it. Show me the damn edge. I never mentioned the earths circumference. They came up with it via measuring the curve of the earth. Yo know, all those laser experiments, and horizon observations you want to hand wave away due to it not fitting your favourite theory. Don't make me assert it then. Provide some. Show me the edge of the earth. You've investigated this, surely, observed it yourself. You must have, since you only believe what you observe. Right? Forgot a camera perhaps? That's awfully convenientunfortunate.
How does looking at lights in the sky validate that they're tangible objects in the sky?We can observe those said objects using satellites... oh wait, I forgot, you FE's don't believe in space.
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Post by Terminator Force on Nov 30, 2018 19:12:01 GMT
Word salad. It's one belief imagined by one person to another belief imagined by another person. Gravity has not yet been scientifically validated.
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Post by Terminator Force on Nov 30, 2018 19:13:32 GMT
How does looking at lights in the sky validate that they're tangible objects in the sky? We can observe those said objects using satellites... oh wait, I forgot, you FE's don't believe in space. Well, you could try to convince me otherwise. Why do you believe in satellites?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 19:14:18 GMT
We can observe those said objects using satellites... oh wait, I forgot, you FE's don't believe in space. Well, you could try to convince me otherwise. Why do you believe in satellites? Why is water wet?
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Post by Terminator Force on Nov 30, 2018 19:18:13 GMT
Well, you could try to convince me otherwise. Why do you believe in satellites? Why is water wet?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 19:19:17 GMT
Its almost like Fes claim that the Earth has been photoshopped..
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Nov 30, 2018 19:19:52 GMT
...and here I thought the poster was joking. :/
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Post by Space Cowboy on Nov 30, 2018 19:20:19 GMT
Mars has been observed, via telescopes and other devices, for hundreds of years.
You are asserting a fact. Prove it. While you're at it, consider that the air pressure in a container is uniform, while on earth the air pressure changes with altitude or depth. Good luck!
You believe the earth just goes on forever? If it's flat there must be an edge. Your diagram you posted before shows a very clear edge, capped by the walls of the solid dome you are claiming exists. You are asserting this in an accurate representation of the earth. Prove it. Show me the damn edge.
I never mentioned the earths circumference. They came up with it via measuring the curve of the earth. Yo know, all those laser experiments, and horizon observations you want to hand wave away due to it not fitting your favourite theory.
Don't make me assert it then. Provide some. Show me the edge of the earth. You've investigated this, surely, observed it yourself. You must have, since you only believe what you observe. Right? Forgot a camera perhaps? That's awfully convenientunfortunate.
How does looking at lights in the sky validate that they're tangible objects in the sky? No assertions being made. Can't have pressure without a container, can show examples of this all day. Can you demonstrate a gas pressure without a container? Good luck, because it defies the second law of thermodynamics; entropy. But if you can debunk entropy, you'll be famous. Never said the Earth goes forever or presented an accurate representation of the Earth. There's no need for speculations. No, you asked me to pick one of your Earth proofs to focus on, so choose what's your evidence for measurement of Earth's circumference? Not sure why you're so interested in the Edge of the Earth so much. This a segue to talk about Antarctica? Don't we have to many things on the dinner plate? What makes you think they are lights? If Jupiter is merely a light, why does it have smaller lights circling it? This has been observed. With telescopes. Oh, you probably don't believe those either.
No it doesn't. Earth is not a closed system. See the Sun, that bright ball of light up there. You didnt answer the question. The pressure in a gas canister is uniform,. Shh, lets just ignore that the planets air and water pressure is not.
Then prove it. Let's not speculate.
I already did
Is there reason you don't want to talk about it? Why assert that it exists? You complain about my assertions, but that's all you're doing. asserting left and right. PROVE SOMETHING
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Post by Terminator Force on Nov 30, 2018 19:21:33 GMT
...and here I thought the poster was joking. :/
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