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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 24, 2019 23:09:45 GMT
Your argument is invalid because I believed in a creator well before FE. Look at Phantom , he denies FE yet still seems to believe in a creator. The biggest flat Earther channel, Jeranism, frequently mentions that though raised Christian, he cannot believe in the bible anymore. Many flat Earthers don't believe in the bible, why they had to divide the last FE conferences between the bible camp and non-bible camp because too many non-bible believers complained at prior FE conference. So enough with trying to use this non-argument as a strawman. Nor do I recall researching FE in the early days with the intention to back the bible, came at it open minded and was genuinely interested in knowing what was really going on by strictly looking where the evidence led. So lets keep it that way. I didn't say FE made you believe in a creator. It's the other way around. However, I'd like you to cite your source for this division. Reality is that Flat Earth only works under the magic wand of a creator deity. I've honestly been searching and have found no evidence that any atheist believes in a flat Earth. In any case, I didn't cite the Bible. All I said was a creator deity. Your interpretation of what that meant is on you.
Atheists don't need anything supernatural and so are able to accept the existence of an infinite universe rather than three disks. Under a Flat Earth we begin to starve to death once we reach the point where the population is so great that it becomes impossible to feed everyone. (We're not there yet, we simply don't share all of the resources available.)
Thank you for acknowledging what I always knew. Now I can safely dismiss your arguments as having no merit.
One of the times I heard the man behind FE Conferences Robbie Davidson mention that separation thing was on an episode of Globebusters where he was a guest to talk about the upcoming FE conference. Alas, all the main Globebuster episodes aren't back on the YouTube channel as they're still battling some copyright issues. Only the mirrored videos are back as of yet. Robbie did mention it a few more times elsewhere, but not going to bothers searching anymore for that outside of the quick effort I gave it. And you're entitled to believe whatever you want. As for an Atheist that believes in flat Earth, believe Nathan Oakley of the flat Earth Debates still fits that bill. Will try and see if I can narrow down episode where I heard him say this.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 25, 2019 21:39:39 GMT
And none of you see anything wrong with this picture? Living in a totally authoritative echo chamber is cool with everyone, interesting. And will do AnDromedary. Will try my best to keep you all entertained.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 25, 2019 21:54:48 GMT
Liked these comments to that announcement ; <article class="sppre_root-message" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; position: relative;"> Dave <svg class="sppre_icon" viewBox="0 0 18 18"><svg><g fill="none"><circle cx="9" cy="9" r="8.5"></circle><path d="M13 8l-4 4-4-4z"></path></g></svg></svg> <time class="sppre_posted-at" data-spot-im-class="message-timestamp" aria-label="3 hours" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: baseline;">3h</time> Last time I checked YouTube was a service provider. Not a Gatekeeper of truth.
While I don't like these videos, and think the videos about cures and so on are potentially dangerous. I feel that censorship is worse.
Who gets to decide what is a dangerous conspiracy that violates the rules. 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1-1.715-1.13A4.975 4.975 0 0 1 99 855.012c.047 1.075.206 2.045.479 2.912a7.68 7.68 0 0 0 1.207 2.356c.533.704 1.248 1.266 2.147 1.685.898.42 1.954.66 3.167.726V866l7-5.53-7-5.47"></path></g></g></svg></use></svg></svg>Dave <time class="sppre_posted-at" data-spot-im-class="message-timestamp" aria-label="3 hours" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: baseline;">3h</time> "Last time I checked YouTube was a service provider. Not a Gatekeeper of truth."
Feel free to find another site to watch videos.
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"Who gets to decide what is a dangerous conspiracy that violates the rules."
YouTube, because um.... it's their platform... Just like how you can choose what words are said in your house because it's "**your house**".
Not a hard concept to figure out. 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box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 11px; vertical-align: baseline;">1h</time> Yes, lets go to their competition...like, uh...well...uh...gee, they really don't have any competition. Everything else is a joke.
Gee, there's Viddler, who states on their site that you should use YouTube for generating awareness.
Dailymotion? With a tenth of the visitors?
Can anyone name a creator that became well known from any video site other than YouTube?
Most everything I find on Amazon I can by elsewhere. Similarly I can live without shopping at Walmart. But YouTube is the only option right now if you want a significant audience.
YouTube is the second most visited website, dailymotion is 148.
Vimeo is 119, and for only $75 a month (billed at $900 a year,) you can live stream.
Viddler didn't make the top 1,000.
Hey, there's Twitch. If you play games that is, and then the video is uploaded to YouTube.
Right now YouTube is the monopoly. It's possible for somebody to come along and take over what they do, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Yes they have the right to do what they do, unless you believe in antitrust laws that is.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jan 25, 2019 22:00:40 GMT
And none of you see anything wrong with this picture? Living in a totally authoritative echo chamber is cool with everyone, interesting. And will do AnDromedary. Will try my best to keep you all entertained. In this particular case, no I don't see anything wrong with it, mainly because of two points:
1. I feel youtube (as well as others) has not really taken enough responsibility for the content they provide so far. No matter if it's about self-endangering "challenges", certified falsehoods, that are presented as truths or - and yes, I count those as well - conspiracy theories. In the past (before the internet) editorial staff were responsible to decide what gets published on any media platform. With the advent of democratized information distribution via social media and other online platforms like youtube, that editorial oversight was no longer given. I think it is youtube's right (and even their responsibility) to curate the content they provide to some extend. One can argue where lines should be drawn but so far I am on board with the restrictions that are imposed.
2. The videos are not deleted. Anyone can still watch them, link them, distribute them however you want. You can even keep your channel subscriptions, etc. They are just no longer algorithmically recommended. The way recommandations work on these pages is questionable in general in my opinion but the very least they can do is to weed out the worst offenders. This is not an intrusion on free speech, this is a media platform deciding what they want to recommend to their users themselves, which is their prerogative.
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 25, 2019 22:04:21 GMT
And none of you see anything wrong with this picture? Living in a totally authoritative echo chamber is cool with everyone, interesting. And will do AnDromedary. Will try my best to keep you all entertained. but you And your fringe echo chamber is better? Less sheep in your pasture makes you right? You have shown no proof, nothing that better more peer reviewed science debunks. You can believe what you wish. The science is with us wether you decry it or not. That's the good thing about science. It's true wether you believe it or not. I know my numbers and science. I've done tests. The earth is obviously and observably round. My eyes prove it. You say your eyes prove the opposite. Well done you. You're indoctrinated into the 'the majority has to be wrong' crowd. This will be my last post here. You follow false science and false assumptions.. I'll follow what you'd call false assumptions. But I'll leave you with this. You accuse is of only assuming. But so have you. Every post.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 4:14:23 GMT
And none of you see anything wrong with this picture? Living in a totally authoritative echo chamber is cool with everyone, interesting. And will do AnDromedary. Will try my best to keep you all entertained. but you And your fringe echo chamber is better? Less sheep in your pasture makes you right? You have shown no proof, nothing that better more peer reviewed science debunks. You can believe what you wish. The science is with us wether you decry it or not. That's the good thing about science. It's true wether you believe it or not. I know my numbers and science. I've done tests. The earth is obviously and observably round. My eyes prove it. You say your eyes prove the opposite. Well done you. You're indoctrinated into the 'the majority has to be wrong' crowd. This will be my last post here. You follow false science and false assumptions.. I'll follow what you'd call false assumptions. But I'll leave you with this. You accuse is of only assuming. But so have you. Every post.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 29, 2019 12:51:57 GMT
Flat Earth Debate show is back live daily after a month hiatus, caught up on the new episodes while playing Anthem Demo & Andromeda mp. And coincidentally; ^ At this timestamp, a flat Earther answers dmc1001 's question. (Playback is disabled, so here's link to timestamp) Then things immediately go back on topic with focus on this guy named Jose who changed his stance from flat Earth to ball. Later baller Unorthodox comes in to Jose's support. Other ballers joining panel, Alan B and Zinder.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 29, 2019 17:49:20 GMT
OK, valid. Yet, he also doesn't believe in the Big Bang. He's pretty vague on it all. I'd be curious to know exactly what he thinks and how the Earth, sun and moon came about.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 29, 2019 19:43:39 GMT
A recent hub bub is about the latest National Geographic coverage on flat Earth, something that's been anticipated as a hit piece for some time considering some prominent flat Earthers were there. While Mark Sargent, Patricia Steere, Rob Skiba and Jeran Campanella were there, only Mark Sargent is prominently featured. Partly because second location footage wasn't used. ^ Official 10 min video by National Geographic. OK, valid. Yet, he also doesn't believe in the Big Bang. He's pretty vague on it all. I'd be curious to know exactly what he thinks and how the Earth, sun and moon came about. Well a general broad stroke on certain flat Earthers seem to be they prefer not knowing everything about our world over inserting a theory.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 29, 2019 20:44:21 GMT
First thing that video talks about is being "created" and "so you have meaning". Then there's guy with the "Reality is Fake" t-shirt. You dismiss photo/video from above Earth but fail to come up with similar to show the edge. Then we get discount of the evidence literally before their eyes. Hundreds of years is also off. More like thousands. The conspiracy is also so inane. NASA was created in order to not confuse the public? If growing knowledge of the universe actually uncovered the truth why not come out why not tell people? Incidentally, I don't claim to know everything about the world. Who does? No one that I know of, at least not without claiming the supernatural. Curiously, as education becomes worse, Creationism is held up (in some places) as a viable alternative to the Big Bang, logic is thrown by the wayside over stuff like intuition - we get this sort of thing.
Note that the video ends with calling FEers dangerous to science. Essentially, it removes the ability to explore and discover because there's really not much to see.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 29, 2019 21:41:45 GMT
Did mention it was a hit piece on flat Earth, so everything from editing and so on. But lets forget all that and take a closer look at their claim. That the reason bottom half of this boat can't be seen is only " Because of the curvature of the Earth."
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 29, 2019 22:29:29 GMT
The conspiracy is also so inane. NASA was created in order to not confuse the public? That really is. And do these people not know there were competing space agencies in other countries? Funny how flat earthers never complain about the cosmonauts.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 29, 2019 22:44:56 GMT
There's no need to focus on speculation side of the debate when there's plenty of conclusive evidence.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 30, 2019 2:41:35 GMT
There's no need to focus on speculation side of the debate when there's plenty of conclusive evidence. Where's the bottom red stripe?
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 30, 2019 2:45:56 GMT
Yay, YouTube can censor too Pretty soon, the internet will be completely just like TV. In other words, completely fucking useless. I don't believe in Flat Earth. I sure as hell don't believe in silencing people for having different ideas, and at some point parents need to take some GDMF responsibility for raising their own children instead of blaming everything on their child's environment. Nurture your child dumbass and the nature won't matter as much. We are doomed.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 30, 2019 14:04:50 GMT
Yay, YouTube can censor too Pretty soon, the internet will be completely just like TV. In other words, completely fucking useless. I don't believe in Flat Earth. I sure as hell don't believe in silencing people for having different ideas, and at some point parents need to take some GDMF responsibility for raising their own children instead of blaming everything on their child's environment. Nurture your child dumbass and the nature won't matter as much. We are doomed. Seems like it. There internet is completely useless for information outside of trusted sources and even then there are deceptive sites that appear official but are New Age, alien, conspiracy garbage. I do like the one about the Bohemian Grove where politicians and the very wealthy go to rape and sacrifice children in the name of some pagan deity (or something). I was reading an article about quasars and reminded of a magazine I used to read as a child. It was called "Odyssey" and was a science magazine published from 1979-2015. The main focus was astronomy, which probably accounts for why I fell in love with that particular brand of science. It sparked my imagination and always made me wish I could get out there and see the universe. I've read plenty of school sci-fi dealing with humanity taking its first steps out there. I remember one where an asteroid was hollowed out, enclosed in a dome and an ecology created within. Forget the power source for travel but it was self-sustaining. Anyway, the gist of it is that astronomy has been a lifelong passion. I eat up articles on the subject. That "Odyssey" magazine would have to go to great lengths to fool me as a child when something like that could simply not been published at all. That conspiracy really does run deep for the not-NASA writers and publishers to create this magazine just to fool young people. I guess school indoctrination wasn't enough, even though this was surely a publication that reached a narrow readership.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 30, 2019 14:47:20 GMT
There's no need to focus on speculation side of the debate when there's plenty of conclusive evidence. Where's the bottom red stripe? Well it's not behind the curvature of the Earth, because there can't be two of them (one higher in front of boat, and one lower behind and obscuring bottom half of boat).
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 30, 2019 14:53:08 GMT
Yay, YouTube can censor too Pretty soon, the internet will be completely just like TV. In other words, completely fucking useless. I don't believe in Flat Earth. I sure as hell don't believe in silencing people for having different ideas, and at some point parents need to take some GDMF responsibility for raising their own children instead of blaming everything on their child's environment. Nurture your child dumbass and the nature won't matter as much. We are doomed. Seems like it. There internet is completely useless for information outside of trusted sources and even then there are deceptive sites that appear official but are New Age, alien, conspiracy garbage. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/Ancient_aliens.pngSomeone gave this msg to YouTuber Red Pill Philosophy in regards to this YT censorship; "Thanks for link, I'm not a flat Earther but this is crazy, conspiracy shows like ancient aliens are shown on discovery channel all the time but ordinary youtubers can't talk about flat Earth?"
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 30, 2019 15:33:00 GMT
Seems like it. There internet is completely useless for information outside of trusted sources and even then there are deceptive sites that appear official but are New Age, alien, conspiracy garbage. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/Ancient_aliens.pngSomeone gave this msg to YouTuber Red Pill Philosophy in regards to this YT censorship; "Thanks for link, I'm not a flat Earther but this is crazy, conspiracy shows like ancient aliens are shown on discovery channel all the time but ordinary youtubers can't talk about flat Earth?" I would call Ancient Aliens to be garbage. But I've seen plenty of FE videos, like those below. However, I acknowledge that they're difficult to find in the search results and mostly light on the science aspect. You can find them in a search engine that links to Google but I use Duck Duck Go so maybe that's why they show up. You can find Ancient Aliens on YT (as you said) but most conspiracy-related content is abut debunking them. You can see, based on my own opinions, that I have little interest in conspiracies. Sure, I believe there are business-related "conspiracies" to separate me from my money but not really the science type stuff.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 30, 2019 16:08:04 GMT
I would call Ancient Aliens to be garbage. But I've seen plenty of FE videos, like those below. However, I acknowledge that they're difficult to find in the search results and mostly light on the science aspect. You can find them in a search engine that links to Google but I use Duck Duck Go so maybe that's why they show up. You can find Ancient Aliens on YT (as you said) but most conspiracy-related content is abut debunking them. You can see, based on my own opinions, that I have little interest in conspiracies. Sure, I believe there are business-related "conspiracies" to separate me from my money but not really the science type stuff. The point was that mainstream conspiracy videos are allowed on mainstream TV while for your everyday youtuber they're suppressed. That free speech is being taken away from the internet little by little.
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Post by Chenowl Blanc on Jan 30, 2019 16:25:43 GMT
The point was that mainstream conspiracy videos are allowed on mainstream TV while for your everyday youtuber they're suppressed. That free speech is being taken away from the internet little by little. Come on now. Please stop spreading pictures with "quotes" from historical persons without proper research, just because you found them somewhere and they support your cause. Why that picture is just plainly wrong.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 30, 2019 16:27:35 GMT
The point was that mainstream conspiracy videos are allowed on mainstream TV while for your everyday youtuber they're suppressed. That free speech is being taken away from the internet little by little. Yes, well, that's the liberal agenda anyway in regard to a great many things. However, I'll drop that before it's removed for being political. Even so, most the YT videos about conspiracies that come up in a search are debunking them. YT might have a general rule about removing removing videos that are anti-science or that promote beliefs that run contrary to accepted science. You do understand that I'm skeptical about a great many things, right? I simply don't accept that science is a lie to create a massive, millennial-long science conspiracy for Reasons. Even now, science continues to make new discoveries. Some of them run contrary to what was previously accepted. That's normal. The shape of the Earth isn't even considered Theory (like evolution, the Big Bang, Relativity). It's considered fact based on science and looking down from orbit. Air is a fact even though we can't see it. We can feel its effects and even see particles in the air, but there is absolutely no doubt it exists. We can't see radio waves but we know they exist. This is fact. We can't directly see atoms but they are a fact. Ultra-violent and infrared light? Nope, but they are fact. Emotions? How thought actually works? No, we can't see those things but we experience them. The appearance of looking out and seeing a flat world doesn't offer enough. If you look at things from a narrow view, you get one conception of how things are. When you pull the "camera" outward, looking from the wider view, you see something more. The perspective you often speak about is so narrow that it fails to see what is actually true. It always comes down to the unexplained conspiracy or even a remotely compelling reason for why it would exist. Here's a TEDx Talk on conspiracy theories. It's quite enlightening and points out lack of qualification to even make a conclusion on the subject.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 30, 2019 17:17:22 GMT
The point was that mainstream conspiracy videos are allowed on mainstream TV while for your everyday youtuber they're suppressed. That free speech is being taken away from the internet little by little. Come on now. Please stop spreading pictures with "quotes" from historical persons without proper research, just because you found them somewhere and they support your cause. Why that picture is just plainly wrong. Owl, nice to still see you around. Yes, aware of the misquotes going on around, especially with Hitler and history in general. Very hard to prove history, but it's the msg of the quote I'm after.
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