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Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw Hey @eplerjc, someone on LinkedIn direct messaged me because they want DA4 to have beautiful characters. They sent the request to me so I thought I would pass it on.
Think what fun you have in store for you. Such fun. Even years later. ;P
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes Wait. Our characters should look appealing? SOMEBODY GET ME A PEN! Why did we not think of this???
Mike Laidlaw @mike_Laidlaw I think it’s really got some potential.
David Gaider @davidgaider I was also recently informed that I needed to get my act together when it came to DA4's story. So @patrickweekes consider yourself on notice, I guess.
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes Why am I on notice? You're the one slacking on DA4's story.
David Gaider @davidgaider I'm delegating.
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes Are you going to let us have a dwarf romance this time?
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Cmdr Katja Shepard - Waiting for DA4 news @muirnara Tbh I can't think of a non appealing character in DA except maybe Rendon Howe? Oh and Lord Erimond, lol.
John Epler @eplerjc How DARE you speak ill of Lord Livius Erimond.
Are you seeing this @patrickweekes
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes it hurts me when Erimond, my most developed character, my thoughtful tragic hero, the deuteragonist of Dragon Age: Inquisition, and dare I say the ideal of peak masculinity, is spoken of with this level of disrespect.
Ladyofc | The Dragon Age Oracle 🔮✨@ccclady1203 You mean the man I didn't hesitate to execute? He looks like the worst smelling cologne you can think of.
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes He died as he smelled: by the Axe.
Amber ☥ ૐ शांति ૐ ᐰ @na0sglass Oh yes, because what's appealing to each player is somehow universal. <eye roll> 😂
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes The day that I saw a straight guy online saying he didn't want to romance Isabela, because the pantsless buxom pirate lady with the lip piercing and sun-kissed complexion was "too exotic," I realized that there was no way to win this, just many different ways to lose.
ladyiolanthe ladyiolanthe That would be a liberating lesson to learn. Just write who you wish to write. There will be someone who likes them. And in some cases, many someones.
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes Some people only want a romance specifically with exactly their ideal kind of character in appearance and personality, and honestly, in a certain type of game, that'd be valid feedback! But that isn't what we're making. We try to give options, but this isn't Build a Buddy.
If we wrote a character we intended as a romance, and nobody wanted to romance them, well, that would be awkward. But based on the telemetry I vaguely remember, Isabela did okay. ❤️ (And people who didn't like her could romance Merrill, Anders, or Fenris instead, plus Seb in DLC)
My advice for dealing with the request for attractive character and Isabella being unattractive:
Where did you hear this? Last I heard, Jennifer Hepler wanted to do a spin on Angel from Buffy.
Sadly I've spend the entire morning trying to track down where I saw this on these boards. I'm pretty sure it was the Anders romance thread on DA2 but I've not found the series of conversations we had about it. The best I can come up with at present is on page 112. About half-way down Buckeldemon posted a Tweet (under a Spoiler) by Jennifer Helpler when she explains some of her thinking behind Anders. For some reason she posted it twice, the second time in order to include an extra bit (underlined in red) where she compares him to a bi-polar terrorist. I know there was a lot more though somewhere but I just can't find it at present. May be someone else can help me out here.
To be honest, I don't see any similarity between Anders and Angel, since with the latter his change of personality is due to him being a vampire either with a soul or without one. The vampire without a soul is just plain evil.
Would also just mention that if she was trying to mimic someone who is bi-polar with Anders then she did a pretty poor rendition of what it is like for a person with this condition. I should know, I am bi-polar. In times past they used to call us manic depressives and when severely affected you do tend to swing from hyper energetic both mentally and physically to extreme torpor and barely able to function. The manic phase can lead to paranoid delusions which are then maintained in the depressive phase which is where the similarity to possession comes in. However, as I pointed out over on the Anders thread, very little of what Anders thinks genuinely comes under the title of delusion since for the most part it turns out to be true. Anyway, there are pages of my posts on this on the Anders thread if you are interested.
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To be consistent with all the DA games, at least one beautiful male companion AND one beautiful female in DA4 needs to be unavailable for romance.
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What beautiful males were there in DA2? I didn't see any. [/quote]
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Varric and his hairy chest.
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John Epler @eplerjc: Having been in this industry for a while, one thing has proven out, time and time again. Success belongs to the team, and failure belongs to leadership. No game is a one-person show, or even close.
Aw, c’mon now. Even if he wasn’t your cup of tea, Seb was objectively handsome.
I always found him a little odd looking. Like the eyes are way too blue, the slick back hair and the weird pouty mouth. ...though I think I'm starting to see why I'm single XD
Aw, c’mon now. Even if he wasn’t your cup of tea, Seb was objectively handsome.
I don't know, with me it is more the sound of his voice as much as his looks. Ditto Fenris; Gideon Emery gets me every time even with my eyes shut.
Fenris quite literally had me at hello. I was all set to romance Anders in my first PT since I knew him from DAA but then Fenris showed up in Lowtown and that was that.
Not a fan of Sebastien's looks or voice, or attitude lol
I too can vouch for the power of Fenris's voice. Though Anders has him beat in the looks department.
But Fenris has that fist ability ...
John Epler @eplerjc: Having been in this industry for a while, one thing has proven out, time and time again. Success belongs to the team, and failure belongs to leadership. No game is a one-person show, or even close.
Not a fan of Sebastien's looks or voice, or attitude lol
Only the sound of his voice really; once I started really listening to what he was saying it wore off pretty quickly. Also, I realise not everyone likes the Scottish accent but I'm something of a sucker for the Celtic fringe accents, particularly Welsh from the lower vocal range. Not really had that from a male romance interest yet. I don't count Solas because it isn't obvious his VA is Welsh.
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The best thing about Fenris is how he utterly and totally owned Anders in most of the banters they had, just destroyed him.
Last time I saw another character get flamed as much as Anders did, was one of the banter dialogues you can have between Liam and Drack
Liam: You've been around. Bet you've seen some real craziness - not just in Helius. Drack: Save it kid! Go bug someone else. Liam: What the hell. What was that for? Drack: I've seen a thousand humans like you. Don't make me pretend you're the one who wont die. You're what, 2? Come back when there's hair on... whatever it is you have.
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