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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 17:45:37 GMT
I would like for Ryder to get in the face of the asari and ask if she would like to be knocked to the ground. If the option for Ryder to punch or shoot the asari, great, but getting in her face to let her know Ryder doesn't put up with that crap would be enough. It may also have the asari think twice before she does any stupid crap. What does this have to do with ME? About as much as Ryder being a pushover does. It shows that a well received character is written to be a pushover from time to time. CDPR likely thought that bathtub scene was "cool" so they wrote it into the game. If found extraordinarily cheezy. So what. Why should I (or anyone else for that matter) care that you don't like the asari scene anymore than you care about me not likely the bathtub scene at the beginning of The Witcher 3? lol...This guy here is comparing 1 scene in the TW3 vs 95% of Andromeda... That's alot of mental hoops to jump through...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 4, 2019 17:50:15 GMT
Actually, it would probably take a little bit of time for me to recover enough from the shock of it in order to react by pushing them off. I'd also not be too inclined to move into a possible line of fire when my two squad mates have weapons trained on Peebee. Staying still enables them to get a clean shot if they perceive the threat high enough to take one. And during that time you're recovering, your squadmates are doing a whole lot of nothing. At the very least, wouldn't you believe they would make an attempt to remove her from being on top of you?
If it was me, I would have stepped to the right, after hearing her run, avoiding her. I would walk over to her and start laughing at her wearing the Barney belly button armor and having black paint smeared across her eyes. If by chance she were to knock me to the ground, I would use her momentum against her. As I'm falling, I would grab her outfit, and use it to fling her over me sending her away from me. I would get up, run to her, slam my knee into her sternum asking her what the **** is her problem. If that doesn't happen, while she's on top of me, I would notice her gut and neck are exposed. Since I wouldn't get much of a hit in her gut, I would grab her collar, pull her towards me as my right hand smacks her in the throat. Depending on how hard I hit her, she might be in a world of hurt. If that doesn't happen, I would throw her off me. When she makes that comment, that would fuel my anger since I'm not in a good mood after my father recently died, I would get up, then slam her to the ground, and start pounding her face in. The most likely thing that would happen is I would step to the side to avoid her from knocking me down.
So when you say you want to be more serious, you mean you want to be a psychopath? Because none of what you write is a more mature or serious action than what was in the game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 4, 2019 17:53:32 GMT
About as much as Ryder being a pushover does. It shows that a well received character is written to be a pushover from time to time. CDPR likely thought that bathtub scene was "cool" so they wrote it into the game. If found extraordinarily cheezy. So what. Why should I (or anyone else for that matter) care that you don't like the asari scene anymore than you care about me not likely the bathtub scene at the beginning of The Witcher 3? lol...This guy here is comparing 1 scene in the TW3 vs 95% of Andromeda... That's alot of mental hoops to jump through... lol this guy is saying 95% of MEA is like the few scenes being discussed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 17:56:11 GMT
And during that time you're recovering, your squadmates are doing a whole lot of nothing. At the very least, wouldn't you believe they would make an attempt to remove her from being on top of you?
If it was me, I would have stepped to the right, after hearing her run, avoiding her. I would walk over to her and start laughing at her wearing the Barney belly button armor and having black paint smeared across her eyes. If by chance she were to knock me to the ground, I would use her momentum against her. As I'm falling, I would grab her outfit, and use it to fling her over me sending her away from me. I would get up, run to her, slam my knee into her sternum asking her what the **** is her problem. If that doesn't happen, while she's on top of me, I would notice her gut and neck are exposed. Since I wouldn't get much of a hit in her gut, I would grab her collar, pull her towards me as my right hand smacks her in the throat. Depending on how hard I hit her, she might be in a world of hurt. If that doesn't happen, I would throw her off me. When she makes that comment, that would fuel my anger since I'm not in a good mood after my father recently died, I would get up, then slam her to the ground, and start pounding her face in. The most likely thing that would happen is I would step to the side to avoid her from knocking me down.
So when you say you want to be more serious, you mean you want to be a psychopath? Because none of what you write is a more mature or serious action than what was in the game. What a joke. Nobody asked for a psychopath. [*personal snark mod-redacted*] That line of thinking falls in place with your "The only reason TW3 did so well is because their fanboys and people not liking Andromeda are just haters!", get that shit out of here!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 17:57:32 GMT
lol...This guy here is comparing 1 scene in the TW3 vs 95% of Andromeda... That's alot of mental hoops to jump through... lol this guy is saying 95% of MEA is like the few scenes being discussed. The few scenes being discussed still doesn't negate the truth. Come on kid...At least try to keep up!
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Post by themikefest on Jan 5, 2019 0:19:24 GMT
So when you say you want to be more serious, you mean you want to be a psychopath? Because of what I would do, not Ryder, makes me a psychopath? No. I call it standing up for myself and not letting some punk think they can get away with doing stupid sh*t.
None? Not even the part where I said that the most likely scenario would be me stepping to the side to avoid being knocked over by the asari?
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Post by ahglock on Jan 5, 2019 2:27:46 GMT
I've acknowledged more than once that Ryder's character range is not a broad as Shepard's, so where exactly is the falsehood in my statement. I'm not making absolute statements here. I'm not saying even that he/she is serious more often than he/she is lighthearted. I'm simply pointing out that it's not an absolute. Others here too are saying essentially the same thing... the player does have some options to make their character more serious and less joking, if they choose to select those dialogue options. There are also times when the auto-dialogue is serious and not joking. I agree... Bioware intended this game to take a more lighthearted approach. As I recall, several fans requested a more lighthearted game and indicated that they did not want a game as sombre and heavy as ME3. In my mind, it's another example of Bioware trying to respond (and pacify) their fan base by implementing the notions of that fanbase... who haven't fully thought through the ideas they're requesting be implemented. I also recall players asking specifically to be given more opportunities to be sarcastic like they had with Hawke specifically. Sarcasm is a form of humor, so Bioware responded with adding joking options into Ryder's dialogue... then the fans find out that's not what they actually wanted. my point was you as a poster probably has used hyperbole at some point, not that that specific statement had a falsehood. Showing that the hyperbole is well an exaggeration does nothing to refute the overall point being made by the use of hyperbole. So hanging your argument that its not absolute does nothing to refute his point which isn't actually an absolute. He used an absolutist statement as a rhetorical argument to show that the game overall lead to a jokey atmosphere/story not that the game literally was all jokes. Things like meetings that seem serious that end with Ryder going I never said the meeting was over.. which then deflates the entire serious scene into a joke.
And I suspect the fans would be fine with a sarcastic option, just don't bake comedy into so much of the auto dialogue and scenes, let people choose to be that way if they want when they find it appropriate. If I recall DA2 correctly they shifted the dialogue a bit based on your history of comments so auto dialogue and dialogue choices might trend towards sarcastic if you have been much of the game. That's a interesting way to do it but i suspect people might not like how it goes for them.
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Post by Garo on Jan 6, 2019 20:42:38 GMT
I don't think that saying this game has poor quality is subjective. You can like it, I like *things* from Andromeda too but it has objectively B movie standards.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 6, 2019 22:18:04 GMT
And during that time you're recovering, your squadmates are doing a whole lot of nothing. At the very least, wouldn't you believe they would make an attempt to remove her from being on top of you?
If it was me, I would have stepped to the right, after hearing her run, avoiding her. I would walk over to her and start laughing at her wearing the Barney belly button armor and having black paint smeared across her eyes. If by chance she were to knock me to the ground, I would use her momentum against her. As I'm falling, I would grab her outfit, and use it to fling her over me sending her away from me. I would get up, run to her, slam my knee into her sternum asking her what the **** is her problem. If that doesn't happen, while she's on top of me, I would notice her gut and neck are exposed. Since I wouldn't get much of a hit in her gut, I would grab her collar, pull her towards me as my right hand smacks her in the throat. Depending on how hard I hit her, she might be in a world of hurt. If that doesn't happen, I would throw her off me. When she makes that comment, that would fuel my anger since I'm not in a good mood after my father recently died, I would get up, then slam her to the ground, and start pounding her face in. The most likely thing that would happen is I would step to the side to avoid her from knocking me down.
So when you say you want to be more serious, you mean you want to be a psychopath? Because none of what you write is a more mature or serious action than what was in the game. Never had to fight for your life, have you? Ever even been physically attacked? Important life lessons are learned there, and have been mostly lost to an entire generation. When you are physically attacked, I imagine you will lie down and take it, and try to live with the scars. I hope you never have to face this. From my experience as a 6'3 215lb man - I am the least attractive target. Yet I have survived an attempted carjacking because sometimes criminals don't give a fuck. When you talk about what is mature or serious in this sort of situation (or role-playing it in a video game), I think it's safe to say you're out of your element, Honnie.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 6, 2019 22:27:16 GMT
So when you say you want to be more serious, you mean you want to be a psychopath? Because none of what you write is a more mature or serious action than what was in the game. Never had to fight for your life, have you? Ever even been physically attacked? Important life lessons are learned there, and have been mostly lost to an entire generation. When you are physically attacked, I imagine you will lie down and take it, and try to live with the scars. I hope you never have to face this. From my experience as a 6'3 215lb man - I am the least attractive target. Yet I have survived an attempted carjacking because sometimes criminals don't give a fuck. When you talk about what is mature or serious in this sort of situation (or role-playing it in a video game), I think it's safe to say you're out of your element, Honnie. Being attacked and what happens in the PeeBee scene are nothing alike.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 6, 2019 22:34:48 GMT
I don't think that saying this game has poor quality is subjective. But it is subjective.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 22:49:01 GMT
Never had to fight for your life, have you? Ever even been physically attacked? Important life lessons are learned there, and have been mostly lost to an entire generation. When you are physically attacked, I imagine you will lie down and take it, and try to live with the scars. I hope you never have to face this. From my experience as a 6'3 215lb man - I am the least attractive target. Yet I have survived an attempted carjacking because sometimes criminals don't give a fuck. When you talk about what is mature or serious in this sort of situation (or role-playing it in a video game), I think it's safe to say you're out of your element, Honnie. Being attacked and what happens in the PeeBee scene are nothing alike. So you'd do nothing if some random smuck just jumped on top of you out of nowhere? How about you go test that theory for me...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 7, 2019 1:50:51 GMT
Being attacked and what happens in the PeeBee scene are nothing alike. So you'd do nothing if some random smuck just jumped on top of you out of nowhere? How about you go test that theory for me... I wouldn't beat them to within an inch of their life or to death like the person I was replying to said, no. That is definitely not a mature or serious way to deal with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 1:56:10 GMT
So you'd do nothing if some random smuck just jumped on top of you out of nowhere? How about you go test that theory for me... I wouldn't beat them to within an inch of their life or to death like the person I was replying to said, no. That is definitely not a mature or serious way to deal with it. Isn't your motto " Niceness before Knives"? Sounds like you wouldn't do much of anything honestly... Strike up a conversation at most maybe...
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 7, 2019 2:55:01 GMT
Actually, it would probably take a little bit of time for me to recover enough from the shock of it in order to react by pushing them off. I'd also not be too inclined to move into a possible line of fire when my two squad mates have weapons trained on Peebee. Staying still enables them to get a clean shot if they perceive the threat high enough to take one. And during that time you're recovering, your squadmates are doing a whole lot of nothing. At the very least, wouldn't you believe they would make an attempt to remove her from being on top of you?
If it was me, I would have stepped to the right, after hearing her run, avoiding her. I would walk over to her and start laughing at her wearing the Barney belly button armor and having black paint smeared across her eyes. If by chance she were to knock me to the ground, I would use her momentum against her. As I'm falling, I would grab her outfit, and use it to fling her over me sending her away from me. I would get up, run to her, slam my knee into her sternum asking her what the **** is her problem. If that doesn't happen, while she's on top of me, I would notice her gut and neck are exposed. Since I wouldn't get much of a hit in her gut, I would grab her collar, pull her towards me as my right hand smacks her in the throat. Depending on how hard I hit her, she might be in a world of hurt. If that doesn't happen, I would throw her off me. When she makes that comment, that would fuel my anger since I'm not in a good mood after my father recently died, I would get up, then slam her to the ground, and start pounding her face in. The most likely thing that would happen is I would step to the side to avoid her from knocking me down.
Personally, I would have just side stepped the Blue Alien's running tackle while drawing my sidearm, took aim at the back of her head once she pasted, and fired.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 7, 2019 3:04:54 GMT
Personally, I would have just side stepped the Blue Alien's running tackle while drawing my sidearm, took aim at the back of her head once she pasted, and fired. Garrus shoots the thing.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 7, 2019 4:42:53 GMT
Man, bunch of badasses in here, just shooting and punching everything that moves! I think the game you are looking for is GTA5. Trevor, I think, is the protagonist that most exemplifies your type of play. Have fun!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 5:13:52 GMT
Man, bunch of badasses in here, just shooting and punching everything that moves! I think the game you are looking for is GTA5. Trevor, I think, is the protagonist that most exemplifies your type of play. Have fun! So I guess you're another one that would let some random dude just jump on you right? Ask him how his day was?
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 7, 2019 5:17:33 GMT
Man, bunch of badasses in here, just shooting and punching everything that moves! I think the game you are looking for is GTA5. Trevor, I think, is the protagonist that most exemplifies your type of play. Have fun! So I guess you're another one that would let some random dude just jump on you right? Ask him how his day was? Must be some kind of kink for them.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 7, 2019 5:32:44 GMT
Man, bunch of badasses in here, just shooting and punching everything that moves! I think the game you are looking for is GTA5. Trevor, I think, is the protagonist that most exemplifies your type of play. Have fun! So I guess you're another one that would let some random dude just jump on you right? Ask him how his day was? I mean, that has actually happened to me and I can tell you that I did NOT headbutt the guy and then beat him to death. Especially with Ryder's two friends nearby, it wasn't like anything super serious was going to happen. Notice the gun that points to her head soon after she lands on Ryder? Like, she says "wait!" and then pushes him away from the console. It's pretty obvious that she's not there to murder anyone, otherwise she probably wouldn't announce her presence and run into an armored squad. Must be terrifying for you significant other to creep back into bed after using the restroom, what with your hair-trigger murder reflexes. 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 5:37:15 GMT
So I guess you're another one that would let some random dude just jump on you right? Ask him how his day was? I mean, that has actually happened to me and I can tell you that I did NOT headbutt the guy and then beat him to death. Especially with Ryder's two friends nearby, it wasn't like anything super serious was going to happen. Notice the gun that points to her head soon after she lands on Ryder? Like, she says "wait!" and then pushes him away from the console. It's pretty obvious that she's not there to murder anyone, otherwise she probably wouldn't announce her presence and run into an armored squad. Must be terrifying for you significant other to creep back into bed after using the restroom, what with your hair-trigger murder reflexes. 😂 Did you ask him how his day was? You seem to be a little over dramatic with the question in point. But I'd rather be a bad ass as you so eloquently put it than some pussy on his back...
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 7, 2019 5:37:38 GMT
Is one of you guys Oscar Pistorius? Because the would all make a lot more sense if that were the case.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 5:40:12 GMT
Is one of you guys Oscar Pistorius? Because the would all make a lot more sense if that were the case. Again, did you ask him how his day was? I mean hey....some people just like to have dudes on top of them and it's ok. I won't judge...
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 7, 2019 5:43:38 GMT
Is one of you guys Oscar Pistorius? Because the would all make a lot more sense if that were the case. Again, did you ask him how his day was? I mean hey....some people just like to have dudes on top of them and it's ok. I won't judge... I mean, I didn't ask about his day. Neither did Ryder so I don't see where the question comes from... Oh, do YOU need someone to ask about your day? Gotcha. How was your day? Are you doing ok?
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 7, 2019 5:44:26 GMT
Is one of you guys Oscar Pistorius? Because the would all make a lot more sense if that were the case. Again, did you ask him how his day was? I mean hey....some people just like to have dudes on top of them and it's ok. I won't judge... Guess some people are just destined to be a submissive kind of person.
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