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Post by Wilding on Feb 3, 2019 9:00:23 GMT
I'll romance anyone of any sex or race. Seriously, done a Sera romance and a Doran one (I liked Sera's more, but that's just muh preference you know). I'd do any. My bias has died for whom I prefer to romance now, now that I've romanced just about everyone in DA:I (besides for Iron Bulll *lee sighs*).
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Post by davkar on Feb 3, 2019 9:18:07 GMT
I don't get it. Krem is a 'reverse-Mae' in this situation, physically she's a woman. If Krem is acceptable as a 'gay' romance then what's wrong with the regular women?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 9:22:09 GMT
Glad to see that some on this thread have some intellectual honesty.
I see that I don't need to answer to the one that quoted me.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 3, 2019 9:48:18 GMT
I don't get it. Krem is a 'reverse-Mae' in this situation, physically she's a woman. If Krem is acceptable as a 'gay' romance then what's wrong with the regular women? Surprise, not every gay who plays Dragon Age would prefer Krem instead of Dorian.
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Post by Dirk on Feb 3, 2019 9:53:42 GMT
Surprise, not every gay who plays Dragon Age would prefer Krem instead of Dorian. Gay players don't have exactly the same preferences? Impossible! 🤔
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 3, 2019 9:56:59 GMT
Glad to see that some on this thread have some intellectual honesty. I see that I don't need to answer to the one that quoted me. I would never make you do anything you're afraid of.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 3, 2019 10:06:36 GMT
Spirit of love that can transform into a spirit of obsession halfway through the romance. I can almost taste the angst. Calling all Solas romancers. Loving someone is so much more, though, than a simple emotion, however pure. I just don't think spirits are complex enough to love as people do. From what I can remember, there's a codex entry where a mage summons a spirit (forgot what type) and falls in love with it. The spirit eventually turns into a desire demon and kills the man, which shows just how fickle a spirit's nature can be. I mean, if you can't feel passionately towards your partner or lust after them without it turning on you, what's the point of even engaging in a romance with it? I think I remember the codex entry you mentioned and I agree, I mean...isn't passion and desire a part of being in love with someone?
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Post by davkar on Feb 3, 2019 11:39:16 GMT
I don't get it. Krem is a 'reverse-Mae' in this situation, physically she's a woman. If Krem is acceptable as a 'gay' romance then what's wrong with the regular women? Surprise, not every gay who plays Dragon Age would prefer Krem instead of Dorian. But every straight male player should cheer for Mae and if not then they are bigots?
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 3, 2019 11:46:34 GMT
Surprise, not every gay who plays Dragon Age would prefer Krem instead of Dorian. But every straight male player should cheer for Mae and if not then they are bigots? Again, I didn't say that. What is it with you people and assuming that every single LGBT person represents the entire rest of the community ALL THE TIME? But even if that were to happen, which isn't remotely likely, the hetero reaction in here is fucking hilarious. Imagine being so unbelievably entitled that losing out on imaginary pussy drives you to start ranting about leftist conspiracy.
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Post by leadintea on Feb 3, 2019 12:19:20 GMT
I don't get it. Krem is a 'reverse-Mae' in this situation, physically she's a woman. If Krem is acceptable as a 'gay' romance then what's wrong with the regular women? Personally, as a gay man, I'm not keen on the idea of romancing a transgender at all. I've tried being open to the idea, but the female body parts just squick me out or do nothing for me. If Krem was one of the 2 options we got for a m/m option in DAI, I would honestly be very displeased. I also heavily disagree with the notion that just because someone isn't down to romance a transgender person, even if they treat them fairly and fully supports their transition, automatically means they're transphobic, and thankfully, there have been transgender people I've seen online that share the same sentiment.
Of course, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any transgender romances in the DA games. On the contrary, I actually do think it'd be fully in character for Mae to have a romance in DA4 and I actively support it - I just don't think she should be one of the only 2 female options available for men to romance like I've seen some people insinuate.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 3, 2019 12:38:22 GMT
I don't get it. Krem is a 'reverse-Mae' in this situation, physically she's a woman. If Krem is acceptable as a 'gay' romance then what's wrong with the regular women? Personally, as a gay man, I'm not keen on the idea of romancing a transgender at all. I've tried being open to the idea, but the female body parts just squick me out or do nothing for me. If Krem was one of the 2 options we got for a m/m option in DAI, I would honestly be very displeased. I also heavily disagree with the notion that just because someone isn't down to romance a transgender person, even if they treat them fairly and fully supports their transition, automatically means they're transphobic, and thankfully, there have been transgender people I've seen online that share the same sentiment.
Of course, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any transgender romances in the DA games. On the contrary, I actually do think it'd be fully in character for Mae to have a romance in DA4 and I actively support it - I just don't think she should be one of the only 2 female options available for men to romance like I've seen some people insinuate.
Who even says there will be only two? The trend in BioWare games has always been for straight men to get more. They don't need our coddling.
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Post by leadintea on Feb 3, 2019 12:45:27 GMT
Personally, as a gay man, I'm not keen on the idea of romancing a transgender at all. I've tried being open to the idea, but the female body parts just squick me out or do nothing for me. If Krem was one of the 2 options we got for a m/m option in DAI, I would honestly be very displeased. I also heavily disagree with the notion that just because someone isn't down to romance a transgender person, even if they treat them fairly and fully supports their transition, automatically means they're transphobic, and thankfully, there have been transgender people I've seen online that share the same sentiment.
Of course, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any transgender romances in the DA games. On the contrary, I actually do think it'd be fully in character for Mae to have a romance in DA4 and I actively support it - I just don't think she should be one of the only 2 female options available for men to romance like I've seen some people insinuate.
Who even says there will be only two? The trend in BioWare games has always been for straight men to get more. They don't need our coddling. Straight women get more in the DA series, though. And there was discussion a couple of pages back about men only needing 2 romances, with Mae being one of options.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 13:09:27 GMT
But every straight male player should cheer for Mae and if not then they are bigots? Again, I didn't say that. What is it with you people and assuming that every single LGBT person represents the entire rest of the community ALL THE TIME? But even if that were to happen, which isn't remotely likely, the hetero reaction in here is fucking hilarious. Imagine being so unbelievably entitled that losing out on imaginary pussy drives you to start ranting about leftist conspiracy. There is nothing more hilarious than your reactions. You seem pretty much offended and triggered that straight people are not necessarily willing to have a trans in their romance options, ( oH MY GOD BIGOOOOOOOOT ) one spot wasted. This isn't something they even asked, and yet you keep forcing like a retard for bizarre reasons and suspicious intentions that only you can understand. How about you mind your own business with your own romance options, and leave straight people alone ? Nobody gives a shit what you think is bad. And everyone start being tired of your fake high moral ground, while it is just a bigoted borderline attitude. As far as I am concerned I'm not seeing any straight woman or straight guy coming to state into this thread what gay people should have or not among their options and how many they should have.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 13:10:53 GMT
Personally, as a gay man, I'm not keen on the idea of romancing a transgender at all. I've tried being open to the idea, but the female body parts just squick me out or do nothing for me. If Krem was one of the 2 options we got for a m/m option in DAI, I would honestly be very displeased. I also heavily disagree with the notion that just because someone isn't down to romance a transgender person, even if they treat them fairly and fully supports their transition, automatically means they're transphobic, and thankfully, there have been transgender people I've seen online that share the same sentiment.
Of course, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any transgender romances in the DA games. On the contrary, I actually do think it'd be fully in character for Mae to have a romance in DA4 and I actively support it - I just don't think she should be one of the only 2 female options available for men to romance like I've seen some people insinuate.
Who even says there will be only two? The trend in BioWare games has always been for straight men to get more. They don't need our coddling. Where is this trend in DA:I ? Gay folks : Two full companions. Straight guys : One Npc and not a companion, and one companion.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 3, 2019 13:26:04 GMT
Personally, as a gay man, I'm not keen on the idea of romancing a transgender at all. I've tried being open to the idea, but the female body parts just squick me out or do nothing for me. If Krem was one of the 2 options we got for a m/m option in DAI, I would honestly be very displeased. I also heavily disagree with the notion that just because someone isn't down to romance a transgender person, even if they treat them fairly and fully supports their transition, automatically means they're transphobic, and thankfully, there have been transgender people I've seen online that share the same sentiment.
Of course, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any transgender romances in the DA games. On the contrary, I actually do think it'd be fully in character for Mae to have a romance in DA4 and I actively support it - I just don't think she should be one of the only 2 female options available for men to romance like I've seen some people insinuate.
Who even says there will be only two? The trend in BioWare games has always been for straight men to get more. They don't need our coddling. While that is true with Mass Effect, Dragon Age has actually only ever given straight male players two options each game. DAO: Leliana and Morrigan DA2: Isabela and Merrill DAI: Cassandra and Josephine
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 3, 2019 13:37:26 GMT
Again, I didn't say that. What is it with you people and assuming that every single LGBT person represents the entire rest of the community ALL THE TIME? But even if that were to happen, which isn't remotely likely, the hetero reaction in here is fucking hilarious. Imagine being so unbelievably entitled that losing out on imaginary pussy drives you to start ranting about leftist conspiracy. There is nothing more hilarious than your reactions. You seem pretty much offended and triggered that straight people are not necessarily willing to have a trans in their romance options, ( oH MY GOD BIGOOOOOOOOT ) one spot wasted. This isn't something they even asked, and yet you keep forcing like a retard for bizarre reasons and suspicious intentions that only you can understand. How about you mind your own business with your own romance options, and leave straight people alone ? Nobody gives a shit what you think is bad. And everyone start being tired of your fake high moral ground, while it just a bigoted borderline attitude. As far as I am concerned I'm not seeing any straight woman or straight guy coming to state into this thread what gay people should have or not among their options and how many they should have. I never, at any point, said that a trans character should take the spot of any of your precious digital blow-up dolls. I don't give a single fuck where walking, talking MAGA hats want to stick their tiny tiki torches, but if pressed, my first suggestion would be the garbage disposal.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 13:54:18 GMT
There is nothing more hilarious than your reactions. You seem pretty much offended and triggered that straight people are not necessarily willing to have a trans in their romance options, ( oH MY GOD BIGOOOOOOOOT ) one spot wasted. This isn't something they even asked, and yet you keep forcing like a retard for bizarre reasons and suspicious intentions that only you can understand. How about you mind your own business with your own romance options, and leave straight people alone ? Nobody gives a shit what you think is bad. And everyone start being tired of your fake high moral ground, while it just a bigoted borderline attitude. As far as I am concerned I'm not seeing any straight woman or straight guy coming to state into this thread what gay people should have or not among their options and how many they should have. I never, at any point, said that a trans character should take the spot of any of your precious digital blow-up dolls. I don't give a single fuck where walking, talking MAGA hats want to stick their tiny tiki torches, but if pressed, my first suggestion would be the garbage disposal. Actually, I don't care much. I just can't stand that type of leftist attitude coming to order to everyone what they should have, should do, should be, should like. I'm just allergic to any of that stuff. Also I do find ironic and hilarious that sentence from you " " take the spot of any of your precious digital blow-up dolls " , coming from lgbt radicals like you that cry over these " digital dolls " for years. I'm pretty sure I'm not the one between you and I that cries the most over these " digital dolls " . Given I've seen you crying over these things before, maybe you should reflect on your own behavior before being sarcastic and critical about it.
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Post by davkar on Feb 3, 2019 13:58:47 GMT
I don't get it. Krem is a 'reverse-Mae' in this situation, physically she's a woman. If Krem is acceptable as a 'gay' romance then what's wrong with the regular women? Personally, as a gay man, I'm not keen on the idea of romancing a transgender at all. I've tried being open to the idea, but the female body parts just squick me out or do nothing for me. If Krem was one of the 2 options we got for a m/m option in DAI, I would honestly be very displeased. I also heavily disagree with the notion that just because someone isn't down to romance a transgender person, even if they treat them fairly and fully supports their transition, automatically means they're transphobic, and thankfully, there have been transgender people I've seen online that share the same sentiment.
Of course, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any transgender romances in the DA games. On the contrary, I actually do think it'd be fully in character for Mae to have a romance in DA4 and I actively support it - I just don't think she should be one of the only 2 female options available for men to romance like I've seen some people insinuate.
Thank you, a completely reasonable stance. Someone suggested it a few pages ago that a trans romance should be an extra option on top of the optimal 2/2/2/2. If BW wants to this would be the way to do it.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 3, 2019 14:22:58 GMT
I never, at any point, said that a trans character should take the spot of any of your precious digital blow-up dolls. I don't give a single fuck where walking, talking MAGA hats want to stick their tiny tiki torches, but if pressed, my first suggestion would be the garbage disposal. Actually, I don't care much. I just can't stand that type of leftist attitude coming to order to everyone what they should have, should do, should be, should like. I'm just allergic to any of that stuff. Also I do find ironic and hilarious that sentence from you " " take the spot of any of your precious digital blow-up dolls " , coming from lgbt radicals like you that cry over these " digital dolls " for years. I'm pretty sure I'm not the one between you and I that cries the most over these " digital dolls " . Given I've seen you crying over these things before, maybe you should reflect on your own behavior before being sarcastic and critical about it. Typical alt-right tactic. Pretend you're winning, and then people will just believe you, no matter how little anything you say actually lines up with reality. You think I'm crying? You think you, or anything else in this stupid fucking thread could make me cry? I was being regularly fag-bashed in fucking kindergarten, you are less than nothing to me. You breeders with your rice-paper skin are the ones squawking up a storm because ONE queer poster who WAS NOT ME (though I understand we all must look alike to you) suggested taking one of your toys away. Your absurd reactions have exposed you all as the bigots she said you were. Not a single LGBT person in this thread actually gives a fuck if you would dick Mae or not. It was a trap, and you all fell for it.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 3, 2019 14:24:57 GMT
Personally, as a gay man, I'm not keen on the idea of romancing a transgender at all. I've tried being open to the idea, but the female body parts just squick me out or do nothing for me. If Krem was one of the 2 options we got for a m/m option in DAI, I would honestly be very displeased. I also heavily disagree with the notion that just because someone isn't down to romance a transgender person, even if they treat them fairly and fully supports their transition, automatically means they're transphobic, and thankfully, there have been transgender people I've seen online that share the same sentiment.
Of course, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any transgender romances in the DA games. On the contrary, I actually do think it'd be fully in character for Mae to have a romance in DA4 and I actively support it - I just don't think she should be one of the only 2 female options available for men to romance like I've seen some people insinuate.
Thank you, a completely reasonable stance. Someone suggested it a few pages ago that a trans romance should be an extra option on top of the optimal 2/2/2/2. If BW wants to this would be the way to do it. Congratulations, you found the only reasonable gay. And the reasonable stance just happens to align with yours! Lucky you!
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Post by Rouccoco on Feb 3, 2019 14:35:05 GMT
Personally, as a gay man, I'm not keen on the idea of romancing a transgender at all. "Transgender" is an adjective, not a noun. Using an article before it is as awkward as saying "a gay" or "a black." Also, grammatically incorrect. Which is why you said "a gay man."
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 3, 2019 14:38:22 GMT
I don't get it. Krem is a 'reverse-Mae' in this situation, physically she's a woman. If Krem is acceptable as a 'gay' romance then what's wrong with the regular women? Personally, as a gay man, I'm not keen on the idea of romancing a transgender at all. I've tried being open to the idea, but the female body parts just squick me out or do nothing for me. If Krem was one of the 2 options we got for a m/m option in DAI, I would honestly be very displeased. I also heavily disagree with the notion that just because someone isn't down to romance a transgender person, even if they treat them fairly and fully supports their transition, automatically means they're transphobic, and thankfully, there have been transgender people I've seen online that share the same sentiment.
Of course, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be any transgender romances in the DA games. On the contrary, I actually do think it'd be fully in character for Mae to have a romance in DA4 and I actively support it - I just don't think she should be one of the only 2 female options available for men to romance like I've seen some people insinuate.
Same here. I support transgender characters in the game, as well as transgender romances, but I don't want it to come at an expense of a cis romance. If that's offensive, oh well.
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Post by leadintea on Feb 3, 2019 14:41:07 GMT
Personally, as a gay man, I'm not keen on the idea of romancing a transgender at all. "Transgender" is an adjective, not a noun. Using an article before it is as awkward as saying "a gay" or "a black." Also, grammatically incorrect. Which is why you said "a gay man." I was actually using transsexual as I was making my post, but I wasn't sure whether that or transgender was the correct word, so I just used the latter since I thought the former would be considered offensive.
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 3, 2019 14:57:57 GMT
Interesting as the 'Races and romance' thread is, can we take care not to prod other posters and try to keep the thread generally on the topic of, er 'Races and romance' aside of the occasional digression, please. As the only mod on duty, I'd rather wait until others join before spading through posts, but if the thread is nicely back onto a calm conversation by then, we won't need to. I'm not saying that fair points aren't included in those digressions, but, er, 'Races and romance'...
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Post by Rouccoco on Feb 3, 2019 14:59:54 GMT
Also, all this straight talk is boring. Let's talk about something more important - why so little gay/bi guys chose dwarves. Like I get it, no one wants Oghren, and Varric was around for way too long. But Renn? A++ would date this daddy.
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