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Post by michaelm on Jan 5, 2019 0:13:44 GMT
Bioware knows full well how much the fanbase still loves the Shepard Trilogy, and when i played ME3 again recently i saw just how dated it is on Console at least. (PC version probably has higher resolution im sure) It would seem logical that after Andromeda they would want to play it safe and just do a remastered collection for current gen. The fans get to experience the games they fell in love with again with a fresh coat of paint, and EA gets good sales again that could potentially help fund the development of Andromeda 2.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 5, 2019 3:36:20 GMT
How is it a safe bet? They are still required to make enough sales to cover whatever cost they are going to incur from remastering the trilogy with having to also then deal with the backlash of not meeting everyone's requirements. From overhauling the story so its more uniform and making the combat uniform across all three games and then at the same time remastering it so all of those things are the same as the release versions.
The other problem is how are they going to sell the game, for someone like me I wouldn't have interest in buying a game at a premium again when I bought that game for the story and that will more then likely stay the same. Until they can market it with that customer in mind I cannot see it being a safe bet.
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Post by cloud9 on Jan 5, 2019 6:07:40 GMT
Bioware knows full well how much the fanbase still loves the Shepard Trilogy, and when i played ME3 again recently i saw just how dated it is on Console at least. (PC version probably has higher resolution im sure) It would seem logical that after Andromeda they would want to play it safe and just do a remastered collection for current gen. The fans get to experience the games they fell in love with again with a fresh coat of paint, and EA gets good sales again that could potentially help fund the development of Andromeda 2. Or they should leave Andromeda to it's cold grave.
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Post by michaelm on Jan 5, 2019 6:20:02 GMT
How is it a safe bet? They are still required to make enough sales to cover whatever cost they are going to incur from remastering the trilogy with having to also then deal with the backlash of not meeting everyone's requirements. From overhauling the story so its more uniform and making the combat uniform across all three games and then at the same time remastering it so all of those things are the same as the release versions. The other problem is how are they going to sell the game, for someone like me I wouldn't have interest in buying a game at a premium again when I bought that game for the story and that will more then likely stay the same. Until they can market it with that customer in mind I cannot see it being a safe bet. Overhauling the story and combat? Have you seen the other "Remasters" that devs have done lately? It's literally only a high resolution patch with added post processing visuals. Some like CoD4 do extras like redone sounds but that's it, the game itself is the same, just "prettier". And I know that'd be another crappy move of EA to charge full retail for work like that but we all know many people would still buy it cause everyone here wants to stroll down memory lane, especially if it means a prettier 4k current gen compatible memory lane.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 5, 2019 7:10:35 GMT
How is it a safe bet? They are still required to make enough sales to cover whatever cost they are going to incur from remastering the trilogy with having to also then deal with the backlash of not meeting everyone's requirements. From overhauling the story so its more uniform and making the combat uniform across all three games and then at the same time remastering it so all of those things are the same as the release versions. The other problem is how are they going to sell the game, for someone like me I wouldn't have interest in buying a game at a premium again when I bought that game for the story and that will more then likely stay the same. Until they can market it with that customer in mind I cannot see it being a safe bet. Overhauling the story and combat? Have you seen the other "Remasters" that devs have done lately? It's literally only a high resolution patch with added post processing visuals. Some like CoD4 do extras like redone sounds but that's it, the game itself is the same, just "prettier". And I know that'd be another crappy move of EA to charge full retail for work like that but we all know many people would still buy it cause everyone here wants to stroll down memory lane, especially if it means a prettier 4k current gen compatible memory lane. I am not saying that is what I expect for the very reasons you mention, but I see plenty of people making the claims those type of things are needed are they not going to buy it. Its why I am not sure if there would be enough sales for the game because of those kinds of comments from the places where you would see people showing interest in remasters or types of releases. For some people I think they make claims like that because they are looking for a reason to be upset and make YouTube videos about how lazy EA is and they had a golden opportunity to fix the inherent problems with those game. Of course those people are the same ones that give all the different Skyrim releases a free pass and not having any additional patching done.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jan 5, 2019 9:21:09 GMT
Would not probably care about it, maybe ME1 but not others so much... remasters from other series have not warmed me much at this point. Continue with MEA2.
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Post by urkibalurki on Jan 5, 2019 10:25:27 GMT
I see too many people here who want a remastering, a remake, a reboot. In my own experience, things like these always are a bad idea. No: they have to make new games from scratch and leave alone the older ones.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 10:34:22 GMT
At some point, a simple remaster (upgraded graphics) is likely to happen. They'll probably box the entire Trilogy altogether, so people looking for a remaster of ME1 will be compelled to buy the collection. whether I'd invest in a remaster depends entirely on whatever hardware I have. If it runs the original, I'll play the original. If not, I'd have to invest in a remaster to continue to replay the game. A remake/redo is what certain members of the fan base have been raising a stink lobby for it for years now. They claim it's because they love the Trilogy. Well, if they loved it so much, why are they insisting on changing it so much? They want a remake because they didn't like it and they want it fixed. I don't see it happening and I would not be interested in buying it if they do. I'm all about the originals. Remakes almost never live up to my expectations, even when they're just done out of the blue and without all the baggage the MET has been carrying with it for over 10 years now..
In addition, Bioware has historically been about making new games, not rehashing old ones... so I really think they'll eventually release a new Mass Effect game. I'd like it to be a direct sequel to Andromeda, but they could also push the story into an even more distant future timeline. I think the setting will remain in Andromeda since that galaxy has much more new potential than the Milky Way because they set ME:A only in a single cluster. I'm looking forward to an entirely new ME game from them.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 5, 2019 12:49:25 GMT
At some point, a simple remaster (upgraded graphics) is likely to happen. They'll probably box the entire Trilogy altogether, so people looking for a remaster of ME1 will be compelled to buy the collection. whether I'd invest in a remaster depends entirely on whatever hardware I have. If it runs the original, I'll play the original. If not, I'd have to invest in a remaster to continue to replay the game. A remake/redo is what certain members of the fan base have been raising a stink lobby for it for years now. They claim it's because they love the Trilogy. Well, if they loved it so much, why are they insisting on changing it so much? They want a remake because they didn't like it and they want it fixed. I don't see it happening and I would not be interested in buying it if they do. I'm all about the originals. Remakes almost never live up to my expectations, even when they're just done out of the blue and without all the baggage the MET has been carrying with it for over 10 years now..
In addition, Bioware has historically been about making new games, not rehashing old ones... so I really think they'll eventually release a new Mass Effect game. I'd like it to be a direct sequel to Andromeda, but they could also push the story into an even more distant future timeline. I think the setting will remain in Andromeda since that galaxy has much more new potential than the Milky Way because they set ME:A only in a single cluster. I'm looking forward to an entirely new ME game from them.
There is a good chance anything can happen, I am just not thinking its going to be anytime soon. The one thing I think people will need to understand is that it won't be anything more then an upgrade with no changes to story, combat, minor bugs type of deal for EA would not put it in the hands of BioWare to do they would find some other company to do it. Just like right now how EA hired a small company made of former Westwood folks to do a 4K remaster of Command and Conquer which I think is a testing to see if there is a market for making new games in that franchise.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 15:36:25 GMT
I see too many people here who want a remastering, a remake, a reboot. In my own experience, things like these always are a bad idea. No: they have to make new games from scratch and leave alone the older ones. So all these games were bad idea's huh... Baldur's Gate Enhanced Halo Master Chief Collection Borderlands the Handsome Collection Uncharted The Nathan Drake Collection StarCraft Half the Final Fantasies Dark Souls 1&2 Wolfenstein Both Metro Games Star Ocean the Last Hope Bio Shock 1&2 Divinity Original Sin Enhanced Edition Shadow of the Colossus Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time Legend of Zelda Wind Waker Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess Soulcalibur 2 Okami HD The Last of US These are all games that I own and I'm sure that there are many more. I personally loved replaying all of them in HD. Edit: Almost forgot... Assassins Creed The Ezio Collection Darksiders 1&2 Dishonored Gears of War Rise of the Tomb Raider Tales of Vesperia And my most recent purchase... Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate for the Switch
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 5, 2019 16:11:52 GMT
I'm all in for a remastered version, but only if there is extra content and not just a visual update.
The ME series is an extraordinarily awesome video game trilogy, but it has some glaring flaws which were the results of meeting harsh deadlines and splitting studios. For example I really like ME3 but there is so much potential to make it much better with just a little extra content. Especially the last 3rd of the game could really use some more content and improvements in level design to expand the experience.
If they'd do that I would be more than happy to buy a remastered version of the trilogy.
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Post by urkibalurki on Jan 5, 2019 17:42:35 GMT
I see too many people here who want a remastering, a remake, a reboot. In my own experience, things like these always are a bad idea. No: they have to make new games from scratch and leave alone the older ones. So all these games were bad idea's huh... Baldur's Gate Enhanced Halo Master Chief Collection Borderlands the Handsome Collection Uncharted The Nathan Drake Collection StarCraft Half the Final Fantasies Dark Souls 1&2 Wolfenstein Both Metro Games Star Ocean the Last Hope Bio Shock 1&2 Divinity Original Sin Enhanced Edition Shadow of the Colossus Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time Legend of Zelda Wind Waker Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess Soulcalibur 2 Okami HD The Last of US These are all games that I own and I'm sure that there are many more. I personally loved replaying all of them in HD. Edit: Almost forgot... Assassins Creed The Ezio Collection Darksiders 1&2 Dishonored Gears of War Rise of the Tomb Raider Tales of Vesperia And my most recent purchase... Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate for the Switch If you ever played the original version of many of these games, you'd find that "enhanced" and "remastered" versions don't add anything to the original, besides small graphic enhancements. And many of the games you quoted here are original versions! About reboots (like the new Tomb Raider series): I agree that sometimes they're better than the old series, but you have to play them as new games, forgetting the old series at all, otherwise you won't enjoy them, because you'll keep on comparing old and new. So, even in this case I say that reboots aren't a good idea, at all. They always live under the old ones' spotlight.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 5, 2019 17:47:36 GMT
Would not probably care about it, maybe ME1 but not others so much... remasters from other series have not warmed me much at this point. Continue with MEA2.
^This.
The original series looks just fine and remastering them is just a waste of money and resources.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 5, 2019 17:56:07 GMT
So all these games were bad idea's huh... Baldur's Gate Enhanced Halo Master Chief Collection Borderlands the Handsome Collection Uncharted The Nathan Drake Collection StarCraft Half the Final Fantasies Dark Souls 1&2 Wolfenstein Both Metro Games Star Ocean the Last Hope Bio Shock 1&2 Divinity Original Sin Enhanced Edition Shadow of the Colossus Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time Legend of Zelda Wind Waker Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess Soulcalibur 2 Okami HD The Last of US These are all games that I own and I'm sure that there are many more. I personally loved replaying all of them in HD. Edit: Almost forgot... Assassins Creed The Ezio Collection Darksiders 1&2 Dishonored Gears of War Rise of the Tomb Raider Tales of Vesperia And my most recent purchase... Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate for the Switch If you ever played the original version of many of these games, you'd find that "enhanced" and "remastered" versions don't add anything to the original, besides small graphic enhancements. And many of the games you quoted here are original versions! About reboots (like the new Tomb Raider series): I agree that sometimes they're better than the old series, but you have to play them as new games, forgetting the old series at all, otherwise you won't enjoy them, because you'll keep on comparing old and new. So, even in this case I say that reboots aren't a good idea, at all. They always live under the old ones' spotlight.
In some cases like Tomb Raider: The Definite Edition, Saints Row IV: Re-Elected Edition, and Skyrim: The Special Edition the new and/or enhanced graphics are barely even noticeable unless you're a video game developer or tech/graphics fetishist.
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So all these games were bad idea's huh... Baldur's Gate Enhanced Halo Master Chief Collection Borderlands the Handsome Collection Uncharted The Nathan Drake Collection StarCraft Half the Final Fantasies Dark Souls 1&2 Wolfenstein Both Metro Games Star Ocean the Last Hope Bio Shock 1&2 Divinity Original Sin Enhanced Edition Shadow of the Colossus Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time Legend of Zelda Wind Waker Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess Soulcalibur 2 Okami HD The Last of US These are all games that I own and I'm sure that there are many more. I personally loved replaying all of them in HD. Edit: Almost forgot... Assassins Creed The Ezio Collection Darksiders 1&2 Dishonored Gears of War Rise of the Tomb Raider Tales of Vesperia And my most recent purchase... Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate for the Switch If you ever played the original version of many of these games, you'd find that "enhanced" and "remastered" versions don't add anything to the original, besides small graphic enhancements. And many of the games you quoted here are original versions! About reboots (like the new Tomb Raider series): I agree that sometimes they're better than the old series, but you have to play them as new games, forgetting the old series at all, otherwise you won't enjoy them, because you'll keep on comparing old and new. So, even in this case I say that reboots aren't a good idea, at all. They always live under the old ones' spotlight. Not all of them but several do add content. Monster Hunter added more Bosses, different styles and weapons. Metro 2033 was built on Metro Last Light's engine and had the benefit of the better UI. Alot of these games didn't just add a HD makeover. They tweaked the mechanics or added something that later games in the series had.
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Post by 10k on Jan 5, 2019 18:08:51 GMT
I think a remaster is the best thing BW can do to generate hype for ME. If they release an Andromeda 2 with ryder straight out the gate, consumers will be very wary, and I think that would be more costly for BW overall. I know many people here love Andromeda, but the fact is the game was bashed and memed like crazy. People are still making videos, almost 2 years later, on youtube on just how bad Andromeda was. I personally don't think an Andromeda 2 will generate hype, or sells. If not a remaster, BW has to do something new again.
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If you ever played the original version of many of these games, you'd find that "enhanced" and "remastered" versions don't add anything to the original, besides small graphic enhancements. And many of the games you quoted here are original versions! About reboots (like the new Tomb Raider series): I agree that sometimes they're better than the old series, but you have to play them as new games, forgetting the old series at all, otherwise you won't enjoy them, because you'll keep on comparing old and new. So, even in this case I say that reboots aren't a good idea, at all. They always live under the old ones' spotlight.
In some cases like Tomb Raider: The Definite Edition, Saints Row IV: Re-Elected Edition, and Skyrim: The Special Edition the new and/or enhanced graphics are barely even noticeable unless you're a video game developer or tech/graphics fetishist.
Skyrim added far more than what you're giving it. The main draw for the game wasn't the HD upgrade (Modders have done a far better job at that) but it's new 64 bit engine. It made the game more stable for the modding scene and allowed us to use more than 4gigs of memory. Here are all the changes... https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/59snjn/a_list_of_all_the_changes_in_skyrim_special/
Plus all this was free if you had the game already. Tomb Raider added a different character model, HD (On PC max settings I can easily see the difference) and multiplayer DLC. I have no clue about Saints Row and couldn't care less about those style of games. Edit: I have to ask...why do you keep liking your own post? That just seems odd...
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Post by wright1978 on Jan 5, 2019 18:41:52 GMT
Bit of a waste of time to be honest. Should be focused on new content not tweaking graphics to make a re=mastered version of existing content.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 5, 2019 18:52:51 GMT
If they updated gameplay to ME3 or better gameplay for all 3 games I'd be interested. ME1 the game play makes it a slog now. But just a remake, no need for it yet, all 3 look fine.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 5, 2019 20:30:07 GMT
I think a remaster is the best thing BW can do to generate hype for ME. If they release an Andromeda 2 with ryder straight out the gate, consumers will be very wary, and I think that would be more costly for BW overall. I know many people here love Andromeda, but the fact is the game was bashed and memed like crazy. People are still making videos, almost 2 years later, on youtube on just how bad Andromeda was. I personally don't think an Andromeda 2 will generate hype, or sells. If not a remaster, BW has to do something new again.
FUCK. THOSE. YOUTUBE & SOCIAL MEDIA. IDIOTS.
BioWare worked and works best when they didn't/don't listen to any of the shit gargling fuckwits on Youtube and social media, because listening to those useless shitheads, who will NEVER like a BioWare game no matter how good it is really is, for any reasons, if wasn't the animation errors (for the record: those errors were over blown), the so-called "poor writing" (for the record: that is subjective), or how "the SJWs ruined the game" (which again for the record: BioWare has always politics in their games and they tend to lead to the left of the political spectrum), they would have found something to bitch about.
Listening to those morons is how and why 99% of gaming sucks now of days, and frankly listening to ill-informed twits on social media will NEVER lead to any good piece of not only games but all media in general.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 5, 2019 20:35:07 GMT
In some cases like Tomb Raider: The Definite Edition, Saints Row IV: Re-Elected Edition, and Skyrim: The Special Edition the new and/or enhanced graphics are barely even noticeable unless you're a video game developer or tech/graphics fetishist.
Skyrim added far more than what you're giving it. The main draw for the game wasn't the HD upgrade (Modders have done a far better job at that) but it's new 64 bit engine. It made the game more stable for the modding scene and allowed us to use more than 4gigs of memory. Here are all the changes... https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/59snjn/a_list_of_all_the_changes_in_skyrim_special/
Plus all this was free if you had the game already. Tomb Raider added a different character model, HD (On PC max settings I can easily see the difference) and multiplayer DLC. I have no clue about Saints Row and couldn't care less about those style of games. Edit: I have to ask...why do you keep liking your own post? That just seems odd...
So it's a PC thing that explains a lot of this obsession with Ultra 4K HD crap. Thank God I stopped playing PC games a long time ago, I really would have been bitter and nasty.
Answer to your edit: Because I can.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 20:41:34 GMT
Skyrim added far more than what you're giving it. The main draw for the game wasn't the HD upgrade (Modders have done a far better job at that) but it's new 64 bit engine. It made the game more stable for the modding scene and allowed us to use more than 4gigs of memory. Here are all the changes... https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/59snjn/a_list_of_all_the_changes_in_skyrim_special/
Plus all this was free if you had the game already. Tomb Raider added a different character model, HD (On PC max settings I can easily see the difference) and multiplayer DLC. I have no clue about Saints Row and couldn't care less about those style of games. Edit: I have to ask...why do you keep liking your own post? That just seems odd...
So it's a PC thing that explains a lot of this obsession with Ultra 4K HD crap. Thank God I stopped playing PC games a long time ago, I really would have been bitter and nasty.
Answer to your edit: Because I can.
I give up with you. What you just said made no damn since. It has NOTHING to do with PC culture. Everything still applies to the PS4, Xbox One or even the Nintendo Switch. Try to keep up please!
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 5, 2019 20:42:54 GMT
Who's actually in the market for this? I can't see any reason to buy a remaster.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 5, 2019 20:44:55 GMT
I see too many people here who want a remastering, a remake, a reboot. In my own experience, things like these always are a bad idea. No: they have to make new games from scratch and leave alone the older ones. Sooooo, you're saying that the Resident Evil 2 remake is bad?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 20:45:30 GMT
Who's actually in the market for this? I can't see any reason to buy a remaster. Who was in the market for any of the other remaster/remakes?... ...Fans. I thought that was pretty simple guess. Why else make one? If nobody cared to buy it they would have never made any of them.
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