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Post by guanxi on Feb 9, 2019 23:55:19 GMT
In a TV show format you don’t have a singular protagonist so the focus and perspective would be broadened of course I believe that would be fine as the ensemble cast is the strongest in the history of video games you could absolutely create a great TV show from the original series but it would need to be reworked considerably for sure but still involving the original characters as that is where the appeal lies for me. No interest in a first contact series featuring original characters that would be a waste of the license. Delay the introduction of the reapers for several years and explore some of the untapped potential only hinted at so far.
Characters and events don’t have to transpire in exactly the same way, Miranda and Jacob could be adversaries working for TIM in the first couple of seasons. I would prefer weekly or at most 2 parter original stories featuring the Normandy crew let us get back to having Garrus, Tali, Wrex and Liara, etc. hanging out for 45mins a week that would be endlessly watchable. People are so freaking weird and precious about Shepard not being exactly how they demand them to be I really don’t get that just go with it if you don’t like their choices don’t watch it - it would in no way delegitimize your video game adaptation version especially if the TV show is very clearly it’s own thing.
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 10, 2019 9:06:48 GMT
I actually love The Expanse but I heard the science in The Expanse is too hardcore or too real for mainstream audiences. Can there be a space opera universe that is not Star Wars or Star Trek that can appeal to the mainstream?
Is Mass Effect that universe? Can we have an exciting universe without "technobabble"?
If not then what kind of space sci fi universe can appeal to the mainstream?
I would love HBO to do a show covering the discovery of Prothean tech, first contact war, and humanity's ascent to being a powerful interstellar power.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 10, 2019 16:36:04 GMT
In a TV show format you don’t have a singular protagonist so the focus and perspective would be broadened of course I believe that would be fine as the ensemble cast is the strongest in the history of video games you could absolutely create a great TV show from the original series but it would need to be reworked considerably for sure but still involving the original characters as that is where the appeal lies for me. No interest in a first contact series featuring original characters that would be a waste of the license. Delay the introduction of the reapers for several years and explore some of the untapped potential only hinted at so far. Characters and events don’t have to transpire in exactly the same way, Miranda and Jacob could be adversaries working for TIM in the first couple of seasons. I would prefer weekly or at most 2 parter original stories featuring the Normandy crew let us get back to having Garrus, Tali, Wrex and Liara, etc. hanging out for 45mins a week that would be endlessly watchable. People are so freaking weird and precious about Shepard not being exactly how they demand them to be I really don’t get that just go with it if you don’t like their choices don’t watch it - it would in no way delegitimize your video game adaptation version especially if the TV show is very clearly it’s own thing. Tv shows can be ensemble casts but frequently they have a primary protagonist with side kicks. And I’d pass on any show that used known characters. They always seem to miss the mark and not feel like who I met in game and come across as bad fanfics. And far too often contradict in game lore.
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Post by guanxi on Feb 10, 2019 21:29:37 GMT
In a TV show format you don’t have a singular protagonist so the focus and perspective would be broadened of course I believe that would be fine as the ensemble cast is the strongest in the history of video games you could absolutely create a great TV show from the original series but it would need to be reworked considerably for sure but still involving the original characters as that is where the appeal lies for me. No interest in a first contact series featuring original characters that would be a waste of the license. Delay the introduction of the reapers for several years and explore some of the untapped potential only hinted at so far. Characters and events don’t have to transpire in exactly the same way, Miranda and Jacob could be adversaries working for TIM in the first couple of seasons. I would prefer weekly or at most 2 parter original stories featuring the Normandy crew let us get back to having Garrus, Tali, Wrex and Liara, etc. hanging out for 45mins a week that would be endlessly watchable. People are so freaking weird and precious about Shepard not being exactly how they demand them to be I really don’t get that just go with it if you don’t like their choices don’t watch it - it would in no way delegitimize your video game adaptation version especially if the TV show is very clearly it’s own thing. Tv shows can be ensemble casts but frequently they have a primary protagonist with side kicks. And I’d pass on any show that used known characters. They always seem to miss the mark and not feel like who I met in game and come across as bad fanfics. And far too often contradict in game lore. Let it be it's own distinct thing with it's own unique take on the lore / cannon & characters and storylines distinct from the video game series. It wouldn't be contradicting the game series because it wouldn't be connected to it at all. Sure it would take heavy inspiration from the original source material but adapting it properly for television could greatly improve on it in many ways. Bringing those characters you love back to life again and placing them in new situations and seeing different sides to them would fantastic wouldn't it? Not having to be faithful to the games would be completely liberating and could potentially elevate the source material beyond ways we can currently only imagine. We might finally one day get an ending that does the original source material justice. Isn't that worth trying? I'm not saying an original series featuring say another human spectre and alien squad-members couldn't be entertaining but it would majorly risk repeating what happened with Andromeda where you have supposedly original characters who felt like Not-Garrus and Not-Liara and Not-Wrex like cheap off brand knock offs / stand-ins who were but a poor imitation of the original characters. Bring back the original characters because it's not Mass Effect without them. Trying to continue Mass Effect without the characters that made it what it is would be like doing an Avengers 6 only with all new superheroes - under any other title it might have been a great movie but if you're expecting Avengers 6 you're ultimately sat in the theater thinking what the fuck is this?
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 11, 2019 7:29:13 GMT
Tv shows can be ensemble casts but frequently they have a primary protagonist with side kicks. And I’d pass on any show that used known characters. They always seem to miss the mark and not feel like who I met in game and come across as bad fanfics. And far too often contradict in game lore. Let it be it's own distinct thing with it's own unique take on the lore / cannon & characters and storylines distinct from the video game series. It wouldn't be contradicting the game series because it wouldn't be connected to it at all. Sure it would take heavy inspiration from the original source material but adapting it properly for television could greatly improve on it in many ways. Bringing those characters you love back to life again and placing them in new situations and seeing different sides to them would fantastic wouldn't it? Not having to be faithful to the games would be completely liberating and could potentially elevate the source material beyond ways we can currently only imagine. We might finally one day get an ending that does the original source material justice. Isn't that worth trying? I'm not saying an original series featuring say another human spectre and alien squad-members couldn't be entertaining but it would majorly risk repeating what happened with Andromeda where you have supposedly original characters who felt like Not-Garrus and Not-Liara and Not-Wrex like cheap off brand knock offs / stand-ins who were but a poor imitation of the original characters. Bring back the original characters because it's not Mass Effect without them. Trying to continue Mass Effect without the characters that made it what it is would be like doing an Avengers 6 only with all new superheroes - under any other title it might have been a great movie but if you're expecting Avengers 6 you're ultimately sat in the theater thinking what the fuck is this? What value are the original characters if a lot of the setting is altered around them? They’re only meaningful to long-time fans, but long-time fans are going to care about the lore and canon of the Mass Effect universe as well. Like, we know enough about Garrus that seeing “another side” of him might very well make him a poor imitation of the Turian we knew anyway. This would be purely a marketing tool. Commander, say, Bishop, isn’t an iconic name like Shepard, but you know people are going to call him “John” most of the time. As for an ending that does the original source material justice, I don’t think the ending for a series that’s “not connected” to the games serves as a particularly good substitute. I mean, whatever they do is just going to be an imitation made for greater market consumption anyway.
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Post by guanxi on Feb 11, 2019 19:47:43 GMT
Let it be it's own distinct thing with it's own unique take on the lore / cannon & characters and storylines distinct from the video game series. It wouldn't be contradicting the game series because it wouldn't be connected to it at all. Sure it would take heavy inspiration from the original source material but adapting it properly for television could greatly improve on it in many ways. Bringing those characters you love back to life again and placing them in new situations and seeing different sides to them would fantastic wouldn't it? Not having to be faithful to the games would be completely liberating and could potentially elevate the source material beyond ways we can currently only imagine. We might finally one day get an ending that does the original source material justice. Isn't that worth trying? I'm not saying an original series featuring say another human spectre and alien squad-members couldn't be entertaining but it would majorly risk repeating what happened with Andromeda where you have supposedly original characters who felt like Not-Garrus and Not-Liara and Not-Wrex like cheap off brand knock offs / stand-ins who were but a poor imitation of the original characters. Bring back the original characters because it's not Mass Effect without them. Trying to continue Mass Effect without the characters that made it what it is would be like doing an Avengers 6 only with all new superheroes - under any other title it might have been a great movie but if you're expecting Avengers 6 you're ultimately sat in the theater thinking what the fuck is this? What value are the original characters if a lot of the setting is altered around them? They’re only meaningful to long-time fans, but long-time fans are going to care about the lore and canon of the Mass Effect universe as well. Like, we know enough about Garrus that seeing “another side” of him might very well make him a poor imitation of the Turian we knew anyway. This would be purely a marketing tool. Commander, say, Bishop, isn’t an iconic name like Shepard, but you know people are going to call him “John” most of the time. As for an ending that does the original source material justice, I don’t think the ending for a series that’s “not connected” to the games serves as a particularly good substitute. I mean, whatever they do is just going to be an imitation made for greater market consumption anyway. Quality HBO and AMC calibre writers could take the initial genesis of character ideas like Garrus and Legion and run with them over the course of several seasons - who's to say future depictions of these characters couldn't surpass these early video games? Of course poor casting choices and writing would hamper any tv show but the core strength of Mass Effect is the ensemble cast and their relationships. When you purchase the rights to Mass Effect this is what you are buying: To argue otherwise is simply counterfactual - to not utilize any of this^ would be absolutely nuts. It's all in the vision and execution of course I suppose whatever they do with the license the only thing that matters really is the choice of writers, network and how it's marketed ultimately.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 11, 2019 19:51:04 GMT
What value are the original characters if a lot of the setting is altered around them? They’re only meaningful to long-time fans, but long-time fans are going to care about the lore and canon of the Mass Effect universe as well. Like, we know enough about Garrus that seeing “another side” of him might very well make him a poor imitation of the Turian we knew anyway. This would be purely a marketing tool. Commander, say, Bishop, isn’t an iconic name like Shepard, but you know people are going to call him “John” most of the time. As for an ending that does the original source material justice, I don’t think the ending for a series that’s “not connected” to the games serves as a particularly good substitute. I mean, whatever they do is just going to be an imitation made for greater market consumption anyway. It's all in the vision and execution I suppose the only thing that matters really is the choice of writers, network and how it's marketed ultimately. I guess I just can't get around my skepticism, especially regarding an adaptation of a game. With the exception of perhaps Netflix's Castlevania, every adaptation of a game thus far has been a total dogpile. Not to say it isn't possible, but it's also possible that there's a gypsy curse that prevents game adaptations from being good.
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Post by setecastronomy on Feb 15, 2019 5:15:27 GMT
With The Expanse, Altered Carbon, and now gen:LOCK, I neither need nor particularly want a Mass Effect: The TV Show.
Now, if Casey Hudson were to be named showrunner for an original space opera IP in a weekly hour-long format, I'd sacrifice a whole bucket of chicken for that.
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