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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 16, 2019 21:59:56 GMT
An interesting post I found on reddit. The coins per shard in the leaked screenshot from the store were set at 20 coins/shard for armor packs, materials, decals, and emotes. However, in its current configuration, the rates are as follow: - Armor Packs: 71 coins/shard
- Materials: 40 coins/shard
- Decals: 40 coins/shard
- Emotes: 45 coins/shard
This is leading some people to believe the leaked screenshot was probably the real deal, and then they tuned shard prices in response to the feedback. Except that both prices, Coins and Shards, changed vs. the leaked screenshot. So they didn't just tune shard prices, they tuned both. Which is what I predicted in the MTX thread. And they will continue to change. Are we going to attribute future changes to the outrage over the $20 made-up number also? How can we tell the difference between they were always planning to change it, before the leak, and they would never have changed it without the leak? Hint: we can't.
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Post by OdanUrr on Feb 16, 2019 22:29:39 GMT
Except that both prices, Coins and Shards, changed vs. the leaked screenshot. So they didn't just tune shard prices, they tuned both. Which is what I predicted in the MTX thread. And they will continue to change. Are we going to attribute future changes to the outrage over the $20 made-up number also? How can we tell the difference between they were always planning to change it, before the leak, and they would never have changed it without the leak? Hint: we can't. You're correct, of course, but it would be naive of us to think the developers don't keep an ear to the ground regarding this sort of things. On a related matter, we still don't have any consensus on the coin grinding rate, do we? 
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Post by brfritos on Feb 17, 2019 0:56:40 GMT
I for one am okay with coin gridning being hard. After all, it IS where they get their money from... You mean apart from selling a full price $60+ game in the first place, right? 
I would reply this. Is astonishing in today's game world most triple AAA titles charge you for the game AND items in the main game. In a MMO title I get it why you do it, but almost every game is turning into MP, grinding and microtransactions machines these days.
No wonder games like The Outer Worlds and Cyberpunk, regardless if they will succeed, gain so much praise and simpathy simply because they are not planning to put microtransactions in the game.
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Post by biggydx on Feb 17, 2019 2:30:21 GMT
You mean apart from selling a full price $60+ game in the first place, right? 
I would reply this. Is astonishing in today's game world most triple AAA titles charge you for the game AND items in the main game. In a MMO title I get it why you do it, but almost every game is turning into MP, grinding and microtransactions machines these days.
No wonder games like The Outer Worlds and Cyberpunk, regardless if they will succeed, gain so much praise and simpathy simply because they are not planning to put microtransactions in the game.
But what separates Anthem from any other MMO? It'll be receiving constant updates, it has NPCs that offer quests, you can group up with other people, it includes dungeons and other endgame activities, freeplay is inhabited by other players, and there are different archetypical classes and progression systems involved. I'm not here to say the game does any one thing significantly well, but it ticks off a lot of the hallmarks of what makes a game an MMO.
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Post by brfritos on Feb 17, 2019 2:50:56 GMT
I would reply this. Is astonishing in today's game world most triple AAA titles charge you for the game AND items in the main game. In a MMO title I get it why you do it, but almost every game is turning into MP, grinding and microtransactions machines these days.
No wonder games like The Outer Worlds and Cyberpunk, regardless if they will succeed, gain so much praise and simpathy simply because they are not planning to put microtransactions in the game.
But what separates Anthem from any other MMO? It'll be receiving constant updates, it has NPCs that offer quests, you can group up with other people, it includes dungeons and other endgame activities, freeplay is inhabited by other players, and there are different archetypical classes and progression systems involved. I'm not here to say the game does any one thing significantly well, but it ticks off a lot of the hallmarks of what makes a game an MMO.
Except EA/Bioware aren't marketing the game as an MMO.
They didn't stick a lable on it, but based on the press kit and media info supplied by EA, is an action driven story with coop gameplay (don't know why people are calling it rpg or even arpg).
I don't have a single problem the game being an MMO, but I have everything against the lack of transparency surrounding the practice.
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Post by biggydx on Feb 17, 2019 3:33:12 GMT
don't know why people are calling it rpg or even arpg Action RPG is pretty apt for Anthem. You type in action RPG in a search engine and games like Destiny, Borderlands, and Diablo come up. Even the genre definition falls in line with what Anthem is: Even if EA doesn't want to explicitly state what the game is, people can look at Anthems gameplay systems (on the whole) and make conclusions as to what genre it falls into. EA doesn't list Anthem as a looter-shooter, but it absolutely falls into that category. As far as Microtransactions and Transparency goes, the only aspect of it that I feel they've lacked transparency on is: - What the prices were going to be prior to launch - Whether higher ranks of cosmetics can appear in the store If you're willing to agree that the game could be classed as a MMO (or MMO-lite even), most MMO's charge you the upfront cost of the game ($40-$60), a subscription fee ($10-$15 a month), future expansions ($30-$40), and still have a MTX store that can sometimes have items that cost more than $40. Anthems doing cosmetics for $10 for less, and future content is free. I get people have their problems about Anthem and it's MTX pricing/existence, and I've seen my own fair share of bad MTX practices. But I don't think Anthem is the most egregious thing ever.
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Post by OdanUrr on Feb 17, 2019 4:16:48 GMT
We could use some more details. Did he play all those hours solo or with a team? What was the difficulty? If he played 15 hours, then he gained coins at a rate of 4,000 coins/hour (what isn't too good imho). If you wanted to buy an armour pack, it'd take you 10 hours, replicating conditions like difficulty and solo/team play, among others we may not be aware of. I could login and tell you how much I've made in the 3 hours I've put into the game, but it'll almost certainly be a lot less than 4,000 coins/hour. Then again, I haven't undertaken any challenges than I'm aware of, and maybe those pay a lot better than completing story/side quests.
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Post by BamBam the Destroyer on Feb 17, 2019 5:52:58 GMT
It looks like it'll go something like this: Considerable early purse money (40k) Initial boosts from one-off challenges (weapon kills, etc.) Mission bonuses Alliance System Random Finds I was able to purchase one of the armor packs (61k) and the N7 vinyl (i think that was like 36k) with the starter money and one playthrough. It looks like I'll get something like 1.5-1.8k from the Alliance system at the end of the week, but I do not believe this will always be the case. So the key is finding the cosmetics you like early. 
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Post by linksocarina on Feb 17, 2019 6:59:07 GMT
EA's skin prices are gouging the Anthem players, imo. $8.50 USD **worst case** (various discounts make it lower) is gouging? How do you figure? Or you mean the Coin price? 30 chests does not seem like gouging to me. I’d grind that many in one session of DAI. If anything that is below competitive rates from similar titles for the same content if thats the number. It usually goes to 10 to 12 bucks.
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 17, 2019 9:00:40 GMT
So as long as you don't want 'all the things' getting occasional nice things from coin seems perfectly possible.
That just leaves those with little time and enough money to choose to fund the ongoing content, which seems fine to me.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 17, 2019 10:52:54 GMT
We could use some more details. Did he play all those hours solo or with a team? What was the difficulty? If he played 15 hours, then he gained coins at a rate of 4,000 coins/hour (what isn't too good imho). If you wanted to buy an armour pack, it'd take you 10 hours, replicating conditions like difficulty and solo/team play, among others we may not be aware of. I could login and tell you how much I've made in the 3 hours I've put into the game, but it'll almost certainly be a lot less than 4,000 coins/hour. Then again, I haven't undertaken any challenges than I'm aware of, and maybe those pay a lot better than completing story/side quests. In about 4 hours I made 5k, so nowhere near 4k/hour for me. I've only done a few of the missions, usually with at least one other person. I agree it probably does depend on how you spend your time and especially who with. The alliance system rewards you for having lots of friends on your list, for instance.
I suspect it will be even slower for solo only players.
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Post by correctamundo on Feb 17, 2019 11:01:56 GMT
I made 21 k yesterday. I sit at 4 hours played according to Origin. Some of that on friday. The earn rate will never be enough for us to by "all the things" (as SofaJockey so aptly put it) but it will be enough if we as players know how to focus our purchases. On the other hand I will buy shards for real money eventually because I like to support a good thing. 
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Post by acehilator on Feb 17, 2019 15:01:54 GMT
I am 43k/20 hours, solo only. No Strongholds yet, only main/secondary quests and freeplay. Explored quite a bit in the world, checked every nook and cranny in FT, checked all NPCs for dialog. So slow play all in all.
I gotta say I am perfectly fine with the rate at which you can aquire coin (even if it will be slower later). Not sure what people expect... play five hours and get an epic set for your whole Javelin? lol
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Post by OdanUrr on Feb 17, 2019 15:06:25 GMT
I gotta say I am perfectly fine with the rate at which you can aquire coin (even if it will be slower later). Not sure what people expect... play five hours and get an epic set for your whole Javelin? lol EA welcomes your input for Battlefront 3.
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Post by acehilator on Feb 17, 2019 15:11:08 GMT
My only EA games are ME, Dead Space and Titanfall 2, so not sure what you mean?
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Post by OdanUrr on Feb 17, 2019 15:12:20 GMT
My only EA games are ME, Dead Space and Titanfall 2, so not sure what you mean? Ah, don't worry about it. That's a good selection games right there.
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Post by Zatche on Feb 17, 2019 15:12:20 GMT
$8.50 USD **worst case** (various discounts make it lower) is gouging? How do you figure? Or you mean the Coin price? 30 chests does not seem like gouging to me. I’d grind that many in one session of DAI. If anything that is below competitive rates from similar titles for the same content if thats the number. It usually goes to 10 to 12 bucks. Also, unlike Destiny, we're not stuck with awkward mismatched colors by default. (I'm a big fan of the paint system).
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Post by acehilator on Feb 17, 2019 15:16:48 GMT
While we are at it, PSA re: paint system:
Don't panic if you can't find metal tints at game start, they are not MTX, just gated behind Arcanist/Sentinel reputation, Level 2 for both. I guess I will unlock both today even after taking it slow.
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Post by 10k on Feb 17, 2019 15:31:11 GMT
Something tells me there won't be much tweaking if there isn't a big uproar from the player base. Let your voice be heard, Freelancers! And if people start leaving the game, expect 3x coin week event.If people start leaving I predict less support for the game, not 3x coin week events lol. There's no way EA would ever do that.
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Post by OdanUrr on Feb 17, 2019 15:38:49 GMT
Just checked: 3,000 coins in 3 hours.
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Post by XCPTNL on Feb 17, 2019 17:02:53 GMT
I'm a bit over 90k I think. Haven't spend anything. Didn't do special farming tactics or anything, just playing the main game and some free-roaming. I'm around Level 20, playing on hard, which is pretty much easy mode and I'm not sure if that factors in. Origin says 12 hours played, but that's not true... must be double that at least I'd say.
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Post by acehilator on Feb 17, 2019 17:54:26 GMT
Made a mistake in my earlier post, dailies do yield coin.
4x daily @1500 = 6000 4x weekly @2000 = 8000
The quests themselves are trivial, so if you do the dailies five times, that's 38k per week just for those, and 50k max if you have more spare time.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 17, 2019 18:06:53 GMT
So as long as you don't want 'all the things' getting occasional nice things from coin seems perfectly possible. That just leaves those with little time and enough money to choose to fund the ongoing content, which seems fine to me. I had to quote this post, for the irony it reveals to me. My intent here is comparison; not trying to talk politics. What you just described is socialism, and the "whales" are happy to be the benefactor to the plebs. It is curious that it works here, and the whales support it, whilst IRL for them Capitalism Rules bruh. I would feel bad for the whales, if they weren't actually fucking everything up with their "help". I am not sure the process you describe is actually what goes on Sofa. In the short term, yes you get benefit from whale behavior. Long term, the gaming industry has changed to accommodate these idiots because EA doesn't need billions playing their games if the few playing it spend billions. It is a very bad catch-22, and I am always wary to praise it as I see it for what it is.
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Post by helios969 on Feb 17, 2019 19:10:46 GMT
Almost level 21, 95K, almost exclusively playing hard, 12 hours total gameplay. Whatever that works out to be. I don't really see anything in the store that I "have" to have.
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