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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 27, 2020 15:23:55 GMT
If it ends up being part of EA's damage-relief strategy that Fallen Order is part of, we'll end up with the best Mass Effect since ME2.
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Post by Polka Dot on Feb 27, 2020 15:34:39 GMT
If it ends up being part of EA's damage-relief strategy that Fallen Order is part of, we'll end up with the best Mass Effect since ME2. Every other Mass Effect is vastly superior to ME2.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 27, 2020 19:37:07 GMT
If it ends up being part of EA's damage-relief strategy that Fallen Order is part of, we'll end up with the best Mass Effect since ME2. Every other Mass Effect is vastly superior to ME2. Yep... this place sucks, alright. *leaves again*
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Post by garrusfan1 on Feb 27, 2020 21:41:11 GMT
We know absolutely nothing about the next mass effect game. We don't even know if it will be in andromeda or the milky way. And yet the OP says it is doomed to failure. Seriously dude why be so negative.
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Post by urkibalurki on Feb 29, 2020 12:00:00 GMT
We know absolutely nothing about the next mass effect game. We don't even know if it will be in andromeda or the milky way. And yet the OP says it is doomed to failure. Seriously dude why be so negative. As I said in the first page of this thread; and yet people went on bickering (as usual) for 25 pages. It doesn't make any sense, really.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 18:27:33 GMT
We know absolutely nothing about the next mass effect game. We don't even know if it will be in andromeda or the milky way. And yet the OP says it is doomed to failure. Seriously dude why be so negative. The first thing on his list is that it's not in the Milky Way. That's his main issue.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 1, 2020 22:39:02 GMT
We know absolutely nothing about the next mass effect game. We don't even know if it will be in andromeda or the milky way. And yet the OP says it is doomed to failure. Seriously dude why be so negative. The first thing on his list is that it's not in the Milky Way. That's his main issue. But we don't even know if it is in andromeda. I mean that is probably where it's gonna be but we don't know anything except they are making another mass effect game.
Given my posts it's clear I would prefer to have shepard back in the next game. However I would be okay if they do one in andromeda. I hope if they do do a game in andromeda that they will bring back ryder as the protaganist. Of course this is all irrelevant since they have said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! I get what your saying and that caps lock wasn't directed at you I just hate when people are so negative for no reason.
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Post by sassafrassa on Mar 2, 2020 16:34:07 GMT
Given my posts it's clear I would prefer to have shepard back in the next game. However I would be okay if they do one in andromeda. Considering how badly Andromeda performed it is very doubtful that EA would ever permit another game to take place there.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 2, 2020 19:39:03 GMT
Given my posts it's clear I would prefer to have shepard back in the next game. However I would be okay if they do one in andromeda. Considering how badly Andromeda performed it is very doubtful that EA would ever permit another game to take place there. But on the flip side of that thought, I was half expecting EA to decide to pull the Anthem servers and finally just let the game die. Granted, that could still happen while everyone waits for the 2.0 revamp, but that it was announced at all does lend to the belief that they may permit established properties to be improved upon rather than flat out abandoned. During the ME3 debacle, I was certain the franchise was dead, since they decided to murder the Milky Way.
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Post by sassafrassa on Mar 2, 2020 19:42:01 GMT
Considering how badly Andromeda performed it is very doubtful that EA would ever permit another game to take place there. But on the flip side of that thought, I was half expecting EA to decide to pull the Anthem servers and finally just let the game die. Granted, that could still happen while everyone waits for the 2.0 revamp, but that it was announced at all does lend to the belief that they may permit established properties to be improved upon rather than flat out abandoned. During the ME3 debacle, I was certain the franchise was dead, since they decided to murder the Milky Way. This isn't really a valid comparison because Anthem was developed as a online MMO of sorts. As long as it is online it has a chance to make money if people can be attracted to it. If it is or continues to be a financial burden, then it will be shut down at some point. ME3 made money and its multiplayer did very well. However Andromeda was primarily single-player and was designed to appeal to the predominantly singe player Mass Effect trilogy. They are just different beasts.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 2, 2020 19:45:54 GMT
Considering how badly Andromeda performed it is very doubtful that EA would ever permit another game to take place there. But on the flip side of that thought, I was half expecting EA to decide to pull the Anthem servers and finally just let the game die. Granted, that could still happen while everyone waits for the 2.0 revamp, but that it was announced at all does lend to the belief that they may permit established properties to be improved upon rather than flat out abandoned. During the ME3 debacle, I was certain the franchise was dead, since they decided to murder the Milky Way. Speaking of Anthem.... It would be ironic if Anthem 2.0 kills off the studio. It differently would if they release it as a full game and charge it for a full priced game....
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 2, 2020 19:59:08 GMT
But on the flip side of that thought, I was half expecting EA to decide to pull the Anthem servers and finally just let the game die. Granted, that could still happen while everyone waits for the 2.0 revamp, but that it was announced at all does lend to the belief that they may permit established properties to be improved upon rather than flat out abandoned. During the ME3 debacle, I was certain the franchise was dead, since they decided to murder the Milky Way. Speaking of Anthem.... It would be ironic if Anthem 2.0 kills off the studio. It differently would if they release it as a full game and charge it for a full priced game.... Well, for any of this to work, right off the bat the major update to 2.0 would need to be absolutely free. There's just no way around that.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 2, 2020 20:14:06 GMT
Speaking of Anthem.... It would be ironic if Anthem 2.0 kills off the studio. It differently would if they release it as a full game and charge it for a full priced game.... Well, for any of this to work, right off the bat the major update to 2.0 would need to be absolutely free. There's just no way around that. And if they really do something stupid as charging it as a full priced game, expect the touches and pitchforks to come out... That'll be a very bad day for their royal fans.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 2, 2020 20:15:07 GMT
Charging money would be death. If they have any semblance of sense left they wouldn't dare. As a Destiny player, I put up with immense amounts of bullshit and crappy pricing models, but nothing would be as egregious as this. I have this game installed waiting for something to happen. If I have to pay, I'll just uninstall and forget it for good. I'd rather just put that money into whatever cosmetics I can get for my ship in Elite: Dangerous.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 2, 2020 20:18:04 GMT
Given my posts it's clear I would prefer to have shepard back in the next game. However I would be okay if they do one in andromeda. Considering how badly Andromeda performed it is very doubtful that EA would ever permit another game to take place there. It did badly?
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 2, 2020 20:22:00 GMT
Charging money would be death. If they have any semblance of sense left they wouldn't dare. As a Destiny player, I put up with immense amounts of bullshit and crappy pricing models, but nothing would be as egregious as this. I have this game installed waiting for something to happen. If I have to pay, I'll just uninstall and forget it for good. I'd rather just put that money into whatever cosmetics I can get for my ship in Elite: Dangerous. Very true. But honestly, I don't trust them to make the right/smart decision. But I could be wrong and all this is just doomsaying. (I'm glad I don't do live service or MMO games...)
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Post by sassafrassa on Mar 2, 2020 21:33:56 GMT
Considering how badly Andromeda performed it is very doubtful that EA would ever permit another game to take place there. It did badly? Yeah, that's why they stopped releasing patches and DLC for it. There was no money to be made from doing so. That means, it was not performing well. IE: it did badly.
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Post by Polka Dot on Mar 2, 2020 22:59:06 GMT
Yeah, that's why they stopped releasing patches and DLC for it. There was no money to be made from doing so. That means, it was not performing well. IE: it did badly. They stopped releasing patches for MEA SP once they'd fixed the bugs. They continued to support MEA MP for quite awhile - with weekly dev livestreams, new kits, weapons, events, etc., and made additional balance tweaks over a year after release. The only thing they didn't do was deliver any paid SP DLC.
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Post by sassafrassa on Mar 3, 2020 1:43:50 GMT
The only thing they didn't do was deliver any paid SP DLC. Right, because not enough money would be made from it.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 3, 2020 2:04:25 GMT
But on the flip side of that thought, I was half expecting EA to decide to pull the Anthem servers and finally just let the game die. Granted, that could still happen while everyone waits for the 2.0 revamp, but that it was announced at all does lend to the belief that they may permit established properties to be improved upon rather than flat out abandoned. During the ME3 debacle, I was certain the franchise was dead, since they decided to murder the Milky Way. This isn't really a valid comparison because Anthem was developed as a online MMO of sorts. As long as it is online it has a chance to make money if people can be attracted to it. If it is or continues to be a financial burden, then it will be shut down at some point. ME3 made money and its multiplayer did very well. However Andromeda was primarily single-player and was designed to appeal to the predominantly singe player Mass Effect trilogy. They are just different beasts. I guess that would be fair, given EA’s misguided ideas about singleplayer games in general. If they don’t believe they can siphon rupees out of whales in seemingly small but frequent increments, they have less incentive to bother.
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Post by Kabraxal on Mar 4, 2020 19:42:28 GMT
The only thing they didn't do was deliver any paid SP DLC. Right, because not enough money would be made from it. Actually, it had more to do with manpower and the disaster that Anthem was becoming. Naturally they would direct resources to a live service game that, when done right, will be a constant cash cow with very little effort and not create SP DLC that would make a fraction of that service. Hell, it might have been different now seeing as how they are allowing SP games to have a chance. EA had vastly different priorities back then.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 4, 2020 21:35:05 GMT
Right, because not enough money would be made from it. Actually, it had more to do with manpower and the disaster that Anthem was becoming. Naturally they would direct resources to a live service game that, when done right, will be a constant cash cow with very little effort and not create SP DLC that would make a fraction of that service. Hell, it might have been different now seeing as how they are allowing SP games to have a chance. EA had vastly different priorities back then. When did they signal that. I am not saying they didn't or being a smarta** I am just wondering. I don't watch that much gaming news beyond release dates (which I usually check to see if there is one for a number of different games every day).
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Post by Kabraxal on Mar 4, 2020 21:45:44 GMT
Actually, it had more to do with manpower and the disaster that Anthem was becoming. Naturally they would direct resources to a live service game that, when done right, will be a constant cash cow with very little effort and not create SP DLC that would make a fraction of that service. Hell, it might have been different now seeing as how they are allowing SP games to have a chance. EA had vastly different priorities back then. When did they signal that. I am not saying they didn't or being a smarta** I am just wondering. I don't watch that much gaming news beyond release dates (which I usually check to see if there is one for a number of different games every day). Signal their openness to single player? That occurred recently with Fallen Order. Not only supporting a SP game, but there have been murmurs they are going more hands off and letting games be designed without the necessity of an online component. Why they pulled all resources off ME and towards Anthem? This is more lining up the evidence over the past few years, but it seems obvious that EA didn't value SP and that, as we've come to learn, Anthem was a dumpster fire in terms of development. They had to pull every bit of support they could just to get that game shipped... even if they knew they'd have to completely rework it at some point.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 4, 2020 21:50:39 GMT
When did they signal that. I am not saying they didn't or being a smarta** I am just wondering. I don't watch that much gaming news beyond release dates (which I usually check to see if there is one for a number of different games every day). Signal their openness to single player? That occurred recently with Fallen Order. Not only supporting a SP game, but there have been murmurs they are going more hands off and letting games be designed without the necessity of an online component. Why they pulled all resources off ME and towards Anthem? This is more lining up the evidence over the past few years, but it seems obvious that EA didn't value SP and that, as we've come to learn, Anthem was a dumpster fire in terms of development. They had to pull every bit of support they could just to get that game shipped... even if they knew they'd have to completely rework it at some point. Ah okay. I wasn't paying much attention to fallen order. Was gonna buy it when it had been out for a while. Glad to hear this though. I don't mind optional online stuff like what they did in andromeda and ME3 but those games need the SP to come first. Good to hear they realized that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 22:01:52 GMT
When did they signal that. I am not saying they didn't or being a smarta** I am just wondering. I don't watch that much gaming news beyond release dates (which I usually check to see if there is one for a number of different games every day). Signal their openness to single player? That occurred recently with Fallen Order. Not only supporting a SP game, but there have been murmurs they are going more hands off and letting games be designed without the necessity of an online component. Why they pulled all resources off ME and towards Anthem? This is more lining up the evidence over the past few years, but it seems obvious that EA didn't value SP and that, as we've come to learn, Anthem was a dumpster fire in terms of development. They had to pull every bit of support they could just to get that game shipped... even if they knew they'd have to completely rework it at some point. To the best of my recollection, EA did not pull resources form ME:A to Anthem. They closed the Montreal office and transferred a bunch of the staff to EA Motive, which was not working on Anthem. EA also gave Bioware a 5-year chance to make Andromeda (a single-player RPG) with less of a MP component than ME3 had in that playing ME:A multiplayer offered no advantage in the single-player game not attainable through free real-time automatic mini-game.
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