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Post by Highwayman667 on May 25, 2020 15:30:09 GMT
Maldita canción !
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Post by spartandude on Jun 5, 2020 18:57:16 GMT
I once decided to romance Anders. And I still killed him!
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Post by Catilina on Jun 5, 2020 19:55:46 GMT
I once decided to romance Anders. And I still killed him! And you felt a strong urge to confess that sin here.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 5, 2020 20:35:46 GMT
I once decided to romance Anders. And I still killed him! And you felt a strong urge to confess that sin here. It is the Anders thread, and their post was about Anders. Also it’s not a sin to stop a mass murderer from causing more harm.
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Post by Catilina on Jun 5, 2020 21:43:57 GMT
And you felt a strong urge to confess that sin here. It is the Anders thread, and their post was about Anders. Also it’s not a sin to stop a mass murderer from causing more harm. I just tried to answer nicely to a very interesting, never-seen statement. And now I want to remind you to your post in another thread: bsn.boards.net/post/1325831So: follow your own rules, kthxbye.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jun 7, 2020 2:34:12 GMT
I mean, come on, it's kinda jerky to go into a fan thread and talk shit about a character. If you want to make a "I hate Anders" thread, go do that and leave this one alone. The same goes for any character. I don't even like Anders all that much, but I'm not going to ruin someone else's good time. At any rate, I thought this was a nice shot/render. He rarely smiles in the game. In this one, he also looks like a nice blend of his DAA and DA2 self. Source. (Sadly, the original Tumblr post is no longer up, so this reblog will have to do.)
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Post by Iddy on Jul 3, 2020 17:20:29 GMT
This is a fan thread? I thought it was just a thread to talk about Anders
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Post by Catilina on Jul 4, 2020 15:10:32 GMT
Yes. A place for talking about Anders. But not really to bashing him. This isn't that place.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 4, 2020 15:14:27 GMT
(Source: Sirinne, deleted, sadly.)
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Post by Sokemis on Jul 4, 2020 18:30:09 GMT
I've always said that Anders is better with a cat, so I raided my Pinterest boards for all the Anders/cat images I could find. (Some of these I'm sure I and/or others have posted here before, but here they are all together ) Source here(Leaving this one out of the spoiler tag because it's my favorite of the bunch and possibly my favorite Anders art in general
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jul 4, 2020 19:03:53 GMT
Aw I really like the one where he's working at his desk; that seems like the most realistic of all of these. Those pics made me wish that Anders had been around for Shale's intro quest. "I'm a cat. Really." I've always said that Anders is better with a cat Also, www.nexusmods.com/dragonage2/mods/4044
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Post by Nightscrawl on Aug 11, 2020 5:55:28 GMT
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 12, 2020 17:23:16 GMT
Okay, so I'm replaying DAA as the Orlesian Warden and I actually got to flirt with Anders. I admit it was only a little flirt but having only ever played with the HoF before, it seemed like my wish to romance Awakening Anders was finally granted. Anders seemed to appreciate it anyway. Of course everything else is in my head but I'm going with it.
I would stress this is not the jerk Orlesian Warden from his short story; that is someone else entirely. This is an Orlesian city elf Warden, who is not overly fond of the Chantry either. So my head-cannon is that she and Anders had a night of torrid passion after defeating the Mother but then Anders confessed to her how he still misses Karl, so she let him go with her blessing. He left her Ser Pouncelot to remember him by. However, they cooked up an alternative story for when the Templars came sniffing around, as they were always likely to do because clearly they do not easily forgive or forget. She sent Justice off with him to keep him safe.
Other things I have noted. Whilst Justice does seem to have a lot of discussion with Anders about spirits and demons, plus why doesn't Anders do more for other mages, it is actually Nathaniel who puts the idea into Justice's head that you are not a demon if you possess a living person provided you have their permission because "Perhaps together, you can do what they cannot do alone. If you gave instead of taking, I would consider you no demon." Great, thanks Nate for that.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 12, 2020 21:03:46 GMT
Yes. My main group in Awakening (I use that now as well – Justice just joined), and I LOVE how foreshadowing is their conversations. (I will go for Justice's quest soon). (And good head canons. )
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 13, 2020 9:48:35 GMT
I have to admit I'm still not happy with his short story. It implies that Anders knew before DA2 what he was capable of doing with Justice inside him and that doesn't really fit with how he develops in Kirkwall, although I admit it is a long time since I played DA2, something I intend to make good after Awakening. Also if Anders had murdered a Templar specifically assigned to watch over him, surely the Templars would have hunted him down ruthlessly from then on? Usually it is possible to tell what sort of creature might have been responsible for such carnage, particularly if you are experts in the field. Whereas if he had merely gone AWOL from the Wardens, particularly if the Wardens didn't inform the Chantry of the matter, then the Templars wouldn't have thought to track him down or try and recapture him until he did turn up in Kirkwall and made contact with Karl, who was being watched.
However, one thing has occurred to me. Nate mentions something about Anders faking his own death, which I took to mean after the battle with the darkspawn at the Vigil or soon after (and our Warden could even have helped set up) not months later after some Templar Rolan had been assigned to the Wardens. Surely, though, it is impossible for a mage to fake their death whilst the Templars still have their phylactery? As I understand the matter, so long as the mage is alive, the blood within it will glow, guiding them to their location. If the mage dies, then glow will be lost and so they don't have to worry anymore. So the Templars didn't have to wait to spring their trap with Karl because the phylactery should have led them straight to Anders.
So if the Templars were worried about Anders then if they heard about his alleged death all they had to do was check the phylactery. It glows so they know it is not true and they would start to hunt for him again. If the short story must be regarded as canon, I prefer this version to explain how Rolan was there as a Templar Warden, probably from elsewhere, requested by the Templars to help track him down, rather than suggest that the Templars were allowed to place one of their own in the Wardens specifically for the purpose of watching Anders, which it is implied from the story must have been for some months as Anders had witnessed them fighting darkspawn, including brood-mothers and abominations. For the timescale to anywhere near fit Anders being in Kirkwall in DA2, he had to have left almost immediately after the defeat of the Mother. Hence Nate saying he thought he had died then.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 13, 2020 14:20:28 GMT
Absolutely.
Many lame plot holes about it.
But: the massacre was believable, especially because of DA2 – he tells Hawke he turned his friend a creature of vengeance... why he would say that, if doesn't have some shocking experience? the Chantry fight doesn't explain this sentence, and he tells it in Act1, not after Ella's case. In the Act 1 nothing explain his fear about he corrupted Justice. Something should have happened before... To me this first experience as an "abomination" is believable.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 13, 2020 18:22:45 GMT
To me this first experience as an "abomination" is believable. I see what you mean. I've just had that conversation with him. I must admit though that there are still some odd parts in the story. He thinks he shouldn't have let Justice merge with him in the presence of Rolan, which is absolutely true but begs the question, why didn't he do it somewhere more private? It is the whole Rolan part which doesn't chime with anything else that occurs in Awakening. What would have made more sense, as I suggest above, is the Templars are informed he has died but know it isn't true from the phylactery, so they pursue him but when they catch up with him, he overpowers them in the same way as in the short story. Then he destroys his phylactery. That would have tied off a lot of loose ends and explained why they needed Karl as bait to catch him. Anyway Anders is now recruited so I'm underway with my DA2 romance run. Aidan Hawke is a handsome mage, who jokes when it is appropriate but is kind when it is not. May be I will get some whole new perspectives after so long away from DA2.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 13, 2020 19:29:18 GMT
I'm glad you try his romance (again?) And I am curious about how it's going Yes.. they didn't even explain, why Alrik looked for Anders – just because he found the letter? Or was something more behind it? Anders was a Grey Warden: even if Alrik found his letters, why he thought, he should catch him... I doubt, Anders described every little detail about that he escaped, and the circumstances... he didn't even tell the whole story to Hawke – what is absolutely believable (in my scenario, he told it later). (Not mentioned, there are many shit about Alrik... it exists a letter, where Alrik writes to his pals, that they should Tranquil the mage secretly, because of the Knight-Commander is too busy to bother her with some marginal stuff, like a tranquility... but how can it rtemain secret? Bah...) You're right about that phylactery as well. I was wondered, that Ella just went away... what about her phylactery? Probably Alrik brought it with him, but it would be good if they mention... Anyway, in my story the phylactery exists, but Hawke didn't find when searched Alrik's corpse. It's weird, it's like they forget it in DA2... It was an important part in DAO/DAA, and even in the Inquisition, when the "apostates" weren't a great problem, or at least not that big, as in DA2... we dealt with phylacteries in multiple times. I think, they just didn't have enough time to tell the story properly, without –or at least with less– plot holes. So: we need imagination to fill those with some explanation. Your explanations fit the story well.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 13, 2020 20:32:48 GMT
I'm glad you try his romance (again?) And I am curious about how it's going It will be the first time I take it to the end. I backed off on my first ever run after the incident with Ella because I was genuinely worried about his state of mind. Thereafter I was simply his supportive friend. However, this time I shall be his supportive lover. To be honest, after being duped by Solas who was never being straight with me, whilst secretly planning to destroy the world, Anders doesn't seem so bad as a romance. At least he is up front about his aims the majority of the time and the situation for mages in Kirkwall is bad. Anyway, I aim to stick with him this time round come what may. However, it is still early days as we have only just had our first conversation after returning from the Chantry. Yes.. they didn't even explain, why Alrik looked for Anders – just because he found the letter? They were clearly checking all correspondence, no matter who was carrying it. Look at what happened to the mage that Samson was carrying love letters for. I wouldn't be surprised if the Templars checked everyone going in and out of the Gallows and did spot checks on the cells of the mages to discover if they were hiding anything. If the Templars were keeping such a careful watch on Anders in the Wardens then after he went missing naturally they would send word to the Gallows as he had previously been recaptured heading in that direction and to watch his former associate carefully. Unfortunately, it seemed being made tranquil was the standard punishment in Kirkwall for sending and receiving letters, at least if you are a commoner, no matter how innocuous the contents, but getting a letter from a notorious apostate would definitely have sealed Karl's fate.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 14, 2020 10:49:45 GMT
I like your take on teh Anders shortstory, gervaise. Him faking his death and the templars knowing, something was wrong because of his phylactery sounds much better, than what we got. I wondered too, how they did forget about the phylacterys conveniently in DA2. Did the topic once came up? I don't honestly remember. The Anders romance was the first romance I did on my first playthrough. I wish, they would have handeled his last quest a bit better - making it less obviously, whet he was doing or maybe have him tell Hakwe outright, what his plan was. I helped collecting his ingredients, because supportive lover and all that jazz, but felt stupid, because it was obvious, that the ingredients weren't for a potion to separate him and Justice and you can not really call him out on it.
I must say, when I was first introduced with the Anders/Justice meshup, I was really amazed. What a great idea. And for most parts, it was executed well, with the moodswings and the newfound will to fight for mage justice instead of running away and stuff like that.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 14, 2020 16:50:16 GMT
Interestingly enough I have just started the serial killer plotline and when Emeric says about the Circle mage Mharen going missing, I am able to mention about the phylactery, so it is not as though the writers forgot that means of tracking mages. What seems odd though is that Emeric tracked her as far as the foundary and then gave up when he could find no sign of her on the upper level. How did he not find the trap door? Presumably it was concealed with magic but he's a Templar so wouldn't he be able to do some sort of magic negation just to check that wasn't the case? Actually it is odd the phylactery still worked if she was dead but may be something about the necromancy spell keeping a body part alive means that the phylactery still works as though the entire person was. Still, it does seem to show that using the phylactery isn't fool proof. All you have to do is hide somewhere not immediately obvious and they assume it is malfunctioning.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 14, 2020 17:25:16 GMT
Interestingly enough I have just started the serial killer plotline and when Emeric says about the Circle mage Mharen going missing, I am able to mention about the phylactery, so it is not as though the writers forgot that means of tracking mages. What seems odd though is that Emeric tracked her as far as the foundary and then gave up when he could find no sign of her on the upper level. How did he not find the trap door? Presumably it was concealed with magic but he's a Templar so wouldn't he be able to do some sort of magic negation just to check that wasn't the case? Actually it is odd the phylactery still worked if she was dead but may be something about the necromancy spell keeping a body part alive means that the phylactery still works as though the entire person was. Still, it does seem to show that using the phylactery isn't fool proof. All you have to do is hide somewhere not immediately obvious and they assume it is malfunctioning. Yes, that phylactery thing seems like it just as silly as the whole Kirkwall and Gallows: the Templars are paranoids, but don't care about Anders (while they take an eye on him – he says, they "snooping" around his clinic), Hawke and DuPuis etc. (By the way, DuPuis also performs track magic in his mansion. My blood mage Hawke didn't kill him, because he knew this spell, so thought he doesn't lie – at least about it, rather thought this piece of information can be useful, and maybe DuPuis as well.) But it good you mentioned. In my Hawke's story, he didn't find Ella's phylactery, so he tried to cover her tracks with blood magic. Knowing this, it absolutely not that wild idea...
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 14, 2020 20:25:38 GMT
But it good you mentioned. In my Hawke's story, he didn't find Ella's phylactery, so he tried to cover her tracks with blood magic. Knowing this, it absolutely not that wild idea... Actually this would explain it, as the serial killer is using necromancy and blood magic so it probably is how he covered his tracks. Meanwhile Aidan and Anders are getting on famously. Anders has already told Aidan he is attracted to the person not the looks, though to be honest they make a handsome couple. Aidan is inspired by Anders and feels he finally has something (and someone) he can dedicate himself to in his own right. After his father died, he assumed responsibility for training his sister and caring for the whole family but that was more duty rather than something he chose for himself. He always hated having to be constantly on the move and looking over his shoulder for the Templars. He was definitely not happy about having to go to Kirkwall but now he is there, he sees it as fate throwing him in the way of Anders so he can help him in his crusade. All my previous mage Hawkes were trying hard to prove that mages could be trusted with power. By contrast Aidan resents the idea that any mage must justify being allowed in the community when there are so many non-mages who abuse their power, particularly the Templars. At present my main worry is Fenris. I'd assumed that this run I'd probably end up rivalling him but I've just got a whole load of friendship points for criticising Merrill. What I don't want to end up doing is having to kill him, which is what happens if you stay middle ground and don't go to one extreme or the other (something I always felt was annoying). However, does he only turn on you at the end if he isn't in your party?
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Post by fylimar on Aug 14, 2020 20:40:47 GMT
I think, he turns on you no matter, if he is in party or not. Try having him in the party, while freeing mages, that gives a lot of rivalry.
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