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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 6, 2019 16:22:12 GMT
Feels like a BioWare game?
The gameplay does. The characters feel very BioWare. There are choices in the NPC conversation stories that feel BioWare.
Does it feel like a looter-shooter action/light-RPG from BioWare?
Absolutely it does.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 6, 2019 16:31:03 GMT
Most of the mis-truth I see is from the clckbaiters. [l Outfits will cost $20 - no they won't. But they almost assuredly were going to until a shit storm rose. The game will brick your PS4 - no it won't. Well it can if you restart wrong. That’s pretty fucking close. People are getting banned for farming chests - no they aren't. Oh sorry banned for using combos on a combo class. Another day, more bullshit. You got that right.
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 6, 2019 16:36:05 GMT
But isn’t “a traditional BioWare game” itself a vague concept? I mean that ranges from Baldur’s Gate->KotOR->Jade Empire->Mass Effect->Dragon Age. The only real common thread you can say runs through all of these is a focus on fun characters and storytelling (as well as being single player, but BioWare has never attempted to hide that about Anthem), which Anthem does have if presented differently than most previous games. So I wouldn’t find that disingenuous. This sounds like another case of someone filling in the blanks with their own meaning instead of what BioWare intended, which they certainly could have clarified better, but it doesn’t mean they were disingenuous. just because one plays one the fact that it could be interpreted in different ways does not make it less disingenuous, only more willful in its aim to deceive the core fanbase. Sorry, no amount of excuses changes that I’m not sure how it’s an excuse to say you’re notion of what a traditional BioWare game is doesn’t seem to hold up when we look at the games BioWare has made over the past two decades, and that Anthem does seem consistent with that history.
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Post by anarchy65 on Mar 6, 2019 16:40:21 GMT
I think people got very traumatized after "No Man's Sky" which really was a show of lies. I didn't use to see many "lying accusations" before that
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Post by clips7 on Mar 6, 2019 16:43:20 GMT
Most of the mis-truth I see is from the clckbaiters. Outfits will cost $20 - no they won't. The game will brick your PS4 - no it won't. People are getting banned for farming chests - no they aren't. Another day, more bullshit. I'm trying to spend a little less time on the internet reading it and a little more time in the game enjoying playing it. As a 'first look' 2 years before release, the E3 2017 trailer was reasonably representative of what we have and anticipate that we will still get in the GAAS. That's not to say that BioWare hasn't dropped the ball with bugs and build quality, a AAA game shouldn't release as a D+ build. But an awesome buggy game can become an awesome fixed game. I have sympathy for those who base their understanding of reality of what an outrage mob tells them, but that's their choice entirely. Pretty much....I mean for me, i knew Anthem wasn't going to be the game for me when they kinda indicated that the story was going to take a backseat to the loot/grind being the focus....anybody hoping for true Bioware story-telling with interesting characters/story was being a bit naive. Bioware is to blame a little here too tho...they was trying to keep their base interested by saying you will be able to play the game as a single player too, and while you can, you most likely won't get the maximum fun and experience since this game wasn't designed to be that from the jump. The game is trying to please everybody and again if this game was geared as a new IP and single player (something that caters to Bioware's base) then this game would have fared far better. It keeps me coming back to....this was a game Bioware was forced to make more than it being a game Bioware wanted to make.The launch hasn't been as bad as Andromeda, but it has a ton of issues that need to get sorted out....
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 6, 2019 16:46:44 GMT
Feels like a BioWare game? The gameplay does. The characters feel very BioWare. There are choices in the NPC conversation stories that feel BioWare. Does it feel like a looter-shooter action/light-RPG from BioWare? Absolutely it does. No, it does not, its grindy as fuck and the campaign is not even replayable. No they do not, they are all subpar compared to bioware, also no companions and no romances, no loyalties...the choices are a JOKE and not nearly as impactful as advertised No it does not. It feels like a shitty looter shooter with subpar interactions compared to what was advertised But hey, it's ok, if things keep going this way we will not have to worry about this garbage much longer
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 6, 2019 16:49:13 GMT
No, it does not, its grindy as fuck and the campaign is not even replayable. ? You can create a new pilot and replay the campaign at any time.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 6, 2019 16:50:14 GMT
Seems to me like it's just the marketing rhetoric these days and not like it's them lying about what's in our food.
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Post by acehilator on Mar 6, 2019 16:53:01 GMT
Have people already forgotten the "Our world, my story" trailer? As a reminderAnd now tell me again how we haven't been lied to? (and be aware of the release date of the trailer before you do)
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Post by ahglock on Mar 6, 2019 16:54:36 GMT
No, it does not, its grindy as fuck and the campaign is not even replayable. ? You can create a new pilot and replay the campaign at any time. You physically can but they designed the “story” so there is no reason too.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 6, 2019 17:00:23 GMT
Feels like a BioWare game? The gameplay does. The characters feel very BioWare. There are choices in the NPC conversation stories that feel BioWare. Does it feel like a looter-shooter action/light-RPG from BioWare? Absolutely it does. No, it does not, its grindy as **** and the campaign is not even replayable. Campaign is replayable by starting a new profile. And doesn't seem that grindy to me.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 6, 2019 17:06:10 GMT
Seems to me like it's just the marketing rhetoric these days and not like it's them lying about what's in our food. Is EA a subsidiary of Cyberdyne or something?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 6, 2019 17:12:14 GMT
No, it does not, its grindy as fuck and the campaign is not even replayable. ? You can create a new pilot and replay the campaign at any time. so, a step back from other looter shooters and ME which let you do full ng+ without losing your gear? Wow THE AWESOMESAUCE!
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 6, 2019 17:12:55 GMT
No, it does not, its grindy as fuck and the campaign is not even replayable. No they do not, they are all subpar compared to bioware, also no companions and no romances, no loyalties...the choices are a JOKE and not nearly as impactful as advertised No it does not. It feels like a shitty looter shooter with subpar interactions compared to what was advertised But hey, it's ok, if things keep going this way we will not have to worry about this garbage much longer Your assessment reads like utter nonsense to me, but if that's your view. What pilot level are you at to make such an assessment? I intend to be enjoying the game for some years to come.
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 6, 2019 17:15:02 GMT
? You can create a new pilot and replay the campaign at any time. so, a step back from other looter shooters and ME which let you do full ng+ without losing your gear? Wow THE AWESOMESAUCE! Actually to my understanding you keep gear and faction reputation, it’s shared across characters. I haven’t checked personally, but I’m pretty sure the only thing that’s reset are the story missions, character model and voice choice, and Fort Tarsis conversations.
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Post by anarchy65 on Mar 6, 2019 17:16:33 GMT
Have people already forgotten the "Our world, my story" trailer? As a reminderAnd now tell me again how we haven't been lied to? (and be aware of the release date of the trailer before you do) Seriously, I don't like Anthem or Andromeda, but this trailer wasn't really lying. You have to understand what exactly means a "lie". A lie is something objective: The devs saying the game will have multiplayer, and the game hasn't. Which happened in No Man's Sky, for example. You can't take things like "Your choices will have consequences" or "your relationships will be deep" as a lie, because they are subjective. The number of times I hear "your choices will have consequences" on E3... I lost count. Which doesn't mean that the choices have consequences, or that the relationships are deep, but you can't accuse the devs of bad faith.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Mar 6, 2019 17:17:17 GMT
No, it does not, its grindy as fuck and the campaign is not even replayable. ? You can create a new pilot and replay the campaign at any time. There are no choices in the critical path. I don't see why you would wanna do a new run through.
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 6, 2019 17:23:46 GMT
Feels like a BioWare game? The gameplay does. The characters feel very BioWare. There are choices in the NPC conversation stories that feel BioWare. Does it feel like a looter-shooter action/light-RPG from BioWare? Absolutely it does. No, it does not, its grindy as fuck and the campaign is not even replayable. No they do not, they are all subpar compared to bioware, also no companions and no romances, no loyalties...the choices are a JOKE and not nearly as impactful as advertised No it does not. It feels like a shitty looter shooter with subpar interactions compared to what was advertised But hey, it's ok, if things keep going this way we will not have to worry about this garbage much longer If you try hard enough there will be a fly in every soup. Can only give credit for the first one. The rest is personal expectation pretty much above sensible for a looter shooter.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 6, 2019 17:24:03 GMT
just because one plays one the fact that it could be interpreted in different ways does not make it less disingenuous, only more willful in its aim to deceive the core fanbase. Sorry, no amount of excuses changes that Bio's core fanbase -- or rather, a certain subset of players who think they're the core fanbase -- have been deceiving themselves for years. Bio's vision for itself has never been what that lot thinks it should be. We learned that as far back as NWN. (Actually, Anthem kind of strikes me as Jade Empire meets NWN w/o its toolset.)
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 6, 2019 17:25:38 GMT
? You can create a new pilot and replay the campaign at any time. There are no choices in the critical path. I don't see why you would wanna do a new run through. I've replayed FPSs and adventure games. I don't see why Anthem would be any different.
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Post by shinobiwan on Mar 6, 2019 17:26:05 GMT
No, it does not, its grindy as fuck and the campaign is not even replayable. No they do not, they are all subpar compared to bioware, also no companions and no romances, no loyalties...the choices are a JOKE and not nearly as impactful as advertised No it does not. It feels like a shitty looter shooter with subpar interactions compared to what was advertised But hey, it's ok, if things keep going this way we will not have to worry about this garbage much longer Your assessment reads like utter nonsense to me, but if that's your view. What pilot level are you at to make such an assessment? I intend to be enjoying the game for some years to come. I'm well into the endgame and I agree with everything crimson said, which is frankly no different than what many others have said who are also well into the endgame. Your assessments are the ones that seem like "utter nonsense" to me, but I really don't see the point of responding in that manner.
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Post by cypherj on Mar 6, 2019 17:27:37 GMT
I hope no one is saying that we're told the entire truth. Marketing is what it is. Their entire purpose is to put things in the best light to get people to buy a product. This is with anything, not just games, and companies push the boundaries all the time.
But, if you remember the demo Bioware did, when they showed the UI and the menus. There were all sorts of alloys, emotes, armor, etc. Nothing like the bare bones we got in the game. Who wants to take a guess as to whether that same stuff shows up to buy later on. Or gets released down the line somewhere as additional content.
I understand the early development stuff not making it in. I knew the world was never going to be as detailed and rich as what we saw in the very first teaser. Or that market was never going to that bustling and full of people. But once you get into homestretch leading up to release, what you show during that time should be somewhat indicative of the final product. I don't think that's too much to ask, or unrealistic expectations.
Call it embellishment instead of lying if you want, but it is what it is.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 6, 2019 17:29:53 GMT
But, if you remember the demo Bioware did, when they showed the UI and the menus. There were all sorts of alloys, emotes, armor, etc. Nothing like the bare bones we got in the game. Who wants to take a guess as to whether that same stuff shows up to buy later on. Or gets released down the line somewhere as additional content. I understand the early development stuff not making it in. I knew the world was never going to be as detailed and rich as what we saw in the very first teaser. Or that market was never going to that bustling and full of people. But once you get into homestretch leading up to release, what you show during that time should be somewhat indicative of the final product. I don't think that's too much to ask, or unrealistic expectations. When was that demo? Bio's cut good stuff from games before. Is the sequence actually different this time around?
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 6, 2019 17:39:34 GMT
Your assessment reads like utter nonsense to me, but if that's your view. What pilot level are you at to make such an assessment? I intend to be enjoying the game for some years to come. I'm well into the endgame and I agree with everything crimson said, which is frankly no different than what many others have said who are also well into the endgame. Your assessments are the ones that seem like "utter nonsense" to me, but I've never felt the need to say that until you started using the same language. I am also well into the endgame, and I disagree with everything crimson said. Which is frankly no different than what many OTHER people who actually enjoy the game have said. Anyone who whines about the game being grindy does not play online games, period. I don't care what they say. No serious online gamer is ever going to complain about something being "grindy" because that is literally what online games are. That is their desinged purpose. ME3MP is the definition of grind, literally the same handful of maps over and over, with the ONE AND ONLY HORDE MODE on scaling difficulty, and everyone on this forum sucks it off like it was some amazing masterpiece of design and is somehow totally not a grind. Give me a damn break. This constant fucking whining about features that LITERALLY THIS ENTIRE GENRE DOES ALL OF THE TIME is getting really old. I seriously question if anyone plays anything at all outside of Single Player games. Because from some of the ridiculous posts in this forum, I seriously question the experience of some people. I also seriously question how many Bioware games ppl on this forum have actually played, because no 2 Bioware games have ever been the same, yet everyone seems to have some self rightous ideal of what a "True Bioware Game" is suppose to be, which is absolutely hilarious.
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