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Post by bshep on Mar 9, 2019 21:23:19 GMT
I know masterworks started apearing at level 25 but and Legendaries? Are they also tied to level 30 or dificulty GM1/2/3? Legendaries are only in GM difficulty and you can get them at level 25 I think. I think i will start today with some freeplay.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Mar 10, 2019 16:53:53 GMT
The patch might have nerfed the non-event FP dungeon farming strategy: www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/azbxku/dungeon_loot_update_a_tale_of_numbers_with_200/TL;DR:Pre-patch (day before):Common: 17 items at 8.5% Uncommon: 24 items at 12% Rare: 34 items at 17% Epic: 102 items at 51% Masterwork: 21 items at 10.5% Legendary: 2 items at 1% Post-patch numbers:Rare: 28 items at 14% Epic: 163 items at 81.5% Masterwork: 7 items at 3.5% Legendary: 2 items at 1% It's not clear to me whether either of these stats were collected during the period of time that drop rates were accidentally buffed (again).
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Post by Thrombin on Mar 10, 2019 19:00:48 GMT
Legendaries are only in GM difficulty and you can get them at level 25 I think. I think i will start today with some freeplay.
You can't play Grandmaster difficulties until you reach level 30. That's when they unlock.
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Post by saandrig on Mar 10, 2019 21:07:06 GMT
I think i will start today with some freeplay.
You can't play Grandmaster difficulties until you reach level 30. That's when they unlock.
You can play them at any level past the tutorial if a level 30 friend takes you there.
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Post by xrayspex73 on Mar 10, 2019 21:36:06 GMT
They definitely nerfed drop rates on Saturday. There is precipitous drop off on the amount of MW and Legs that drop anymore. Way to kill off any desire to play this game Bioware.
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Post by Thrombin on Mar 11, 2019 0:22:27 GMT
You can't play Grandmaster difficulties until you reach level 30. That's when they unlock.
You can play them at any level past the tutorial if a level 30 friend takes you there.
Thanks.
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Post by force58 on Mar 11, 2019 13:29:59 GMT
FWIW, out of the 6 legendaries that I've gotten, three have dropped from normal enemies (not bosses) during events (one from a scar in the very first part of Tyrant Mine, one from a Legendary Contract event, and one from a Freeplay World event). The other three were from various chests. All dropped from GM1, with either 0% or some low bonus (certainly not greater than 30-40%) to luck. So clearly it is not only possible to get legendaries from "event" mobs, but looking at my (extremely limited and statistically inadequate) sample you can expect to get roughly the same number of legendaries from the event mobs as you do from the chests. I'm only level 18 on my Storm and haven't gotten anything above rare with the exception of the pre-order legendary. Loot tiers are level-gated. Rares only level 10 or above. Epics only level 20 or above. MW only level 25 or above (I think). And the MW pool on Hard is limited. Full MW pool only available on GM1+. Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware. Figures, same as how Bungie/Destiny handle top tier loot. Hopefully I'll be able to survive on GM1 When I get to that point.
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Post by force58 on Mar 11, 2019 13:32:34 GMT
That's definitely a serious read, but makes sense. I'm only level 18 on my Storm and haven't gotten anything above rare with the exception of the pre-order legendary. Now that I'm getting 21 level items, that weapon has become obsolete. Note that I'm only playing in hard mode since GM hasn't unlocked yet. The quality of drops is tied to your level. You are close to start getting epics and at 25 you will have a chance to get MW weapons at difficulties below GM1. Thanks Saandrig, I've got a ways to go then. I got a late start due to all the server disconnect issues I was experiencing. The game is only stable for me as of about a week ago.
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Post by PillarBiter on Mar 11, 2019 14:04:38 GMT
They need to be more generous with their loot, imho. I mean, the inscriptions can stay as they are, you still have the search for the perfect inscription remaining, but then at least you'll get more chances of getting them.
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Post by saandrig on Mar 11, 2019 15:04:56 GMT
They need to be more generous with their loot, imho. I mean, the inscriptions can stay as they are, you still have the search for the perfect inscription remaining, but then at least you'll get more chances of getting them. Preach! They actually were more generous with the loot. Twice. On accident 😁 And frankly even with the better loot rates I destroyed 98% of the drops. The 2% were decent, but not even upgrades, just worth keeping in the vault.
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Post by PillarBiter on Mar 11, 2019 15:34:56 GMT
They need to be more generous with their loot, imho. I mean, the inscriptions can stay as they are, you still have the search for the perfect inscription remaining, but then at least you'll get more chances of getting them. Preach! They actually were more generous with the loot. Twice. On accident 😁 And frankly even with the better loot rates I destroyed 98% of the drops. The 2% were decent, but not even upgrades, just worth keeping in the vault. as much as we disagree on some points, they have got to be honest with themselves. Thsi is a loot game, let the loot be the enjoyment, not the mission The mission should be 'fun'
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 11, 2019 17:47:27 GMT
They need to be more generous with their loot, imho. I mean, the inscriptions can stay as they are, you still have the search for the perfect inscription remaining, but then at least you'll get more chances of getting them. The only thing I can think of is that they’re worried people will exhaust the loot pool and get everything they want too quickly and stop playing. With the reddit being flooded with dozens of repetitive threads clamoring for the return of the loot bug, I imagine there are some very passionate discussions goin on at BioWare right now.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 11, 2019 17:57:34 GMT
They need to be more generous with their loot, imho. I mean, the inscriptions can stay as they are, you still have the search for the perfect inscription remaining, but then at least you'll get more chances of getting them. The only thing I can think of is that they’re worried people will exhaust the loot pool and get everything they want too quickly and stop playing. With the reddit being flooded with dozens of repetitive threads clamoring for the return of the loot bug, I imagine there are some very passionate discussions goin on at BioWare right now. You can pretty much guarantee it. Not just reddit but "Anthem's" media advocate's like Paul Tassi at Forbes, Destin Legarie at IGN, and a good amount of streamers as well.
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Post by NotN7 on Mar 11, 2019 19:50:32 GMT
Myself I have been thinking of putting Anthem on the back burner and play something else a looter shooter to me means shoot to get the loot, I'm playing on GM1 setting and I have averaged 1 MW out of every 2 missions since the patch so I asked myself where is the goal? why should I continue if I cannot get Legionary to drop at GM1 to upgrade my gear so I can advance to GM2,GM3.
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 11, 2019 20:06:03 GMT
The only thing I can think of is that they’re worried people will exhaust the loot pool and get everything they want too quickly and stop playing. With the reddit being flooded with dozens of repetitive threads clamoring for the return of the loot bug, I imagine there are some very passionate discussions goin on at BioWare right now. You can pretty much guarantee it. Not just reddit but "Anthem's" media advocate's like Paul Tassi at Forbes, Destin Legarie at IGN, and a good amount of streamers as well. I would like to be a fly on the wall there. If they really think that Anthem’s loot pool won’t be able to sustain high drop rates for long, they’ll have to come up with some middle ground.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 11, 2019 20:13:38 GMT
You can pretty much guarantee it. Not just reddit but "Anthem's" media advocate's like Paul Tassi at Forbes, Destin Legarie at IGN, and a good amount of streamers as well. I would like to be a fly on the wall there. If they really think that Anthem’s loot pool won’t be able to sustain high drop rates for long, they’ll have to come up with some middle ground. I think it's been mentioned before but increase drop rate so you get a nice variety of Masterwork and Legendary weapons, components and gear and make the inscriptions rolls and the chase for blueprints to re-roll weapons the thing you are constantly chasing. The feedback loop of dropping oranges and yellow mixed in with blue versus 95% blue that, after a while, really only serve the purpose of ember supply for sigils. So, you do the legendary mission or stronghold, get a few oranges and yellows, compare to inventory, break down the minor or redundant rolls and either re-roll with the blueprint or go out for another chance. New weapons, gear, and components would also be welcome to keep the drops reveals fresh.
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Post by xrayspex73 on Mar 11, 2019 20:44:51 GMT
I just can't imagine running Tyrant mines and legendary contracts ad nauseum to only receive the guaranteed MW. I logged in on Sunday, looked at the missions, breathed a heavy sigh and then logged off. I don't even feel like wasting my time grinding for MW that most likely are a downgrade.
They need to shower us in MW. The goal is praying to the RNG Gods for good rolls on MW/Legendary. The goal is not to have to pray to RNG to simply get a MW to drop.
I ran through 3 dungeons and cleared out all of the elites and legendary enemies... no MW for all of that work. Before the patch, this method would garner A LOT of MWs.
Bioware, you don't respect our time at all.
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Post by acehilator on Mar 11, 2019 22:31:47 GMT
You can pretty much guarantee it. Not just reddit but "Anthem's" media advocate's like Paul Tassi at Forbes, Destin Legarie at IGN, and a good amount of streamers as well. I would like to be a fly on the wall there. If they really think that Anthem’s loot pool won’t be able to sustain high drop rates for long, they’ll have to come up with some middle ground. As long as they don't re-invent the whole inscription system, Anthem can sustain drops rates as high as 100% Leg @level 30 indefinitely. You still couldn't put GM3 on farm.
(Additive scaling meets current GM3 HP modifier = no bueno)
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Post by bshep on Mar 11, 2019 22:54:48 GMT
I just can't imagine running Tyrant mines and legendary contracts ad nauseum to only receive the guaranteed MW. I logged in on Sunday, looked at the missions, breathed a heavy sigh and then logged off. I don't even feel like wasting my time grinding for MW that most likely are a downgrade. They need to shower us in MW. The goal is praying to the RNG Gods for good rolls on MW/Legendary. The goal is not to have to pray to RNG to simply get a MW to drop. I ran through 3 dungeons and cleared out all of the elites and legendary enemies... no MW for all of that work. Before the patch, this method would garner A LOT of MWs. Bioware, you don't respect our time at all. I have no problem with the masterwork itens ( but legendary, what is this? ). Did 3 tyrant mine and got 8 masterwork items yesterday, that is 5 itens that dropped from random enemies/chests.
Should point out i also run them with 75% luck in my gear.
ps: I wouldn't mind higher drop rates for those itens.
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 12, 2019 8:02:24 GMT
The only thing I can think of is that they’re worried people will exhaust the loot pool and get everything they want too quickly and stop playing. With the reddit being flooded with dozens of repetitive threads clamoring for the return of the loot bug, I imagine there are some very passionate discussions goin on at BioWare right now. This. I think the problem is the combination of a small loot pool from one single loot table and very little content to play through and so there is nothing to keep players around for long if stringing them along with loot rarity doesn't work. Maybe it would help if they made the main story line replayabale à la Diablo without having to start a new pilot. Other than that, the game just needs a ton more content if they want to retain a healthy player base. More loot, more varied and interesting loot especially, more dungeons with more bosses, and special loot tables for said dungeons and bosses with special items or better drop chances to actually give players goals to achieve.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 12, 2019 11:55:04 GMT
So, if Bioware was sick of doing RPGs and dealing with toxic jaded fans and creepy romance fanatics, well, I hope they enjoy the bliss that is trying to balance a looter shooter! Not at all easier than trying to pander to everyone's sex kink, is it?
Enjoy your different kind of disappointed player, Bioware! And good luck, obviously you need it...
(Sorry for the sarcasm but I'm done feeling sorry for Bioware.)
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Post by NotN7 on Mar 12, 2019 16:40:39 GMT
Well something happened last night, yesterday I did 18 contracts 3 were the Legendary and my daily stronghold I got 2 MW and 1 Legendary, this morning just doing the 3 legendary contracts and the daily stronghold I managed to acquire 7 MW and I haven't even started the normal contracts. so confusing to update I have done 9 normal contracts and all we got were Epics and a few blues I'm playing at GM1 level on PC if that maters K I just finished 20 normal contracts we received 1 MW per ten contracts no legends( I did an extra 3 because of the legendary )
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Post by monkeylungs on Mar 13, 2019 3:10:25 GMT
It's baffling you have these immensely complex ( on tech side) and expensive modern video games...that at the same time completely fail at the basic aspects of game design, that other games have figured out 20 years ago. Has anyone at Bioware even played Diablo 2? I don't think most of the people that developed this game play games ... at all.
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