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Post by cypherj on Mar 11, 2019 22:09:17 GMT
The CFO, the Chief Financial Officer said 3 million at launch, 30-50% of the lifetime sales. Do the math, the expectations were 6-10 million. Mass Effect 3 sold 6 million according to the CFO. I'm just using EA's own words. No speculation involved here. As I said, it is what it is. Dread it, run from it, it is what it is. www.technobuffalo.com/ea-says-mass-effect-andromeda-will-sell-3-million-at-launchAlso, the only reason why the talked about Battlefront and Battlefield in detail was because they missed earnings, and had to explain why. When you make earnings, no one cares about the low-level details, only high-level numbers. So, either way, in EA's eyes, it met expectations since it met earnings expectations...otherwise what is holding them back from being "disappointed" in MEA? The company as a whole made earnings. So if ME:A didn't meet expectations, no one would even look at it. EA didn't make earnings last quarter so they had to do the full post mortem, and had to give the details. Like I said in my other post, there's no way it came close selling what ME3 did. But the break-even point as far as making a profit was far less 6 million copies. But making a profit and meeting expectations are two very different things. No one ever said the game was in the red. But at the same time, based on what EA said their expectations were in their own words, the game didn't meet them. The only questions is by how much. I'd be shocked if the game sold more than 4 million or so.
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Post by CHRrOME on Mar 11, 2019 22:10:15 GMT
BioWare Montreal is still there...it's just now called EA Motive and working on a Star Wars project all their own apart from the one Respawn will release later this year. Visceral was also working on a Star Wars project. The fact remains that since EA got the Star Wars license in 2013, we've only gotten 2 (mediocre) Battlefront games and Galaxy of Heroes, while they've nuked the Visceral and EA Vancouver games. It makes me wonder how valuable the Star Wars license truly is to EA. And Disney! they said not so long ago that they're okay about EAs handling of the SW franchise. Makes you wonder what the fuck are they smoking.
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Post by Blast Processor on Mar 11, 2019 22:10:50 GMT
The fourth fiscal quarter ends on March 31st. If EA has trouble reaching sales numbers, I suppose they'll offer some kind of discount before that date. Interesting. I wouldn't mind playing Anthem, even if my desire is mainly driven by morbid curiosity. Definitely not paying $90 CAD for the privilege tho.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 11, 2019 22:13:39 GMT
So, either way, in EA's eyes, it met expectations since it met earnings expectations...otherwise what is holding them back from being "disappointed" in MEA? The company as a whole made earnings. So if ME:A didn't meet expectations, no one would even look at it. EA didn't make earnings last quarter so they had to do the full post mortem, and had to give the details. Like I said in my other post, there's no way it came close selling what ME3 did. But the break-even point as far as making a profit was far less 6 million copies. But making a profit and meeting expectations are two very different things. No one ever said the game was in the red. But at the same time, based on what EA said their expectations were in their own words, the game didn't meet them. The only questions is by how much. I'd be shocked if the game sold more than 4 million or so. Per wikipedia: "Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter estimated that Mass Effect: Andromeda shipped at least 2.5 million physical units in its opening quarter, resulting in $110 million in revenue." Add in digital sales from PS4, XBox and Origin...5 million since it's release 2 years ago is not far-fetched
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Post by bshep on Mar 11, 2019 22:19:40 GMT
Aaron Flynn said he expected it to sell 5 million worldwide...the fact EA never talked sh*t about ME:A was likely due to the fact it did not underperform by a million units like Battlefront 2 or Battlefield V It's likely, since release in 3/21/2017, it's hovering around 5 million total unit sold. Not a failure but not enough to trumpet about...it made money, plain and simple. I mean if it ME: A underperformed, they would’ve said so. The fact that they were pleased with ME: A means the opposite. Funny how this "LITTLE" detail is always ignored when people like to make claims that a Bioware game failed. If they don't talk about it means it failed but if they do talk about it then it also means it failed...
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Post by river82 on Mar 11, 2019 22:25:21 GMT
The company as a whole made earnings. So if ME:A didn't meet expectations, no one would even look at it. EA didn't make earnings last quarter so they had to do the full post mortem, and had to give the details. Like I said in my other post, there's no way it came close selling what ME3 did. But the break-even point as far as making a profit was far less 6 million copies. But making a profit and meeting expectations are two very different things. No one ever said the game was in the red. But at the same time, based on what EA said their expectations were in their own words, the game didn't meet them. The only questions is by how much. I'd be shocked if the game sold more than 4 million or so. Per wikipedia: "Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter estimated that Mass Effect: Andromeda shipped at least 2.5 million physical units in its opening quarter, resulting in $110 million in revenue." Add in digital sales from PS4, XBox and Origin...5 million since it's release 2 years ago is not far-fetched That's shipped, not sold. It pretty much means what they expected to sell. They actually probably sold really well initially also, because it had the Mass Effect brand behind it, but nobody knows how long a tail it had (we have no figures, GAAAAH). No one will know if the brand has been damaged probably until the reception of the next game.
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Post by cypherj on Mar 11, 2019 22:32:45 GMT
The company as a whole made earnings. So if ME:A didn't meet expectations, no one would even look at it. EA didn't make earnings last quarter so they had to do the full post mortem, and had to give the details. Like I said in my other post, there's no way it came close selling what ME3 did. But the break-even point as far as making a profit was far less 6 million copies. But making a profit and meeting expectations are two very different things. No one ever said the game was in the red. But at the same time, based on what EA said their expectations were in their own words, the game didn't meet them. The only questions is by how much. I'd be shocked if the game sold more than 4 million or so. Per wikipedia: "Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter estimated that Mass Effect: Andromeda shipped at least 2.5 million physical units in its opening quarter, resulting in $110 million in revenue." Add in digital sales from PS4, XBox and Origin...5 million since it's release 2 years ago is not far-fetched Shipped figures mean they sent copies to stores like Walmart, best buy, etc, as well as players. Shipped games does not equal sold games. It depends on what deal they have with the stores if the games don't sale. But I've given you EA's expectations 6-10 million. WHat ME3 sold, 6 million. As verifiable numbers from EA's CFO himself. ME:A had a worse launch and probably less than half the lifespan of ME3. There's no logical argument that can be made that ME:A sold anywhere near as much as ME3, and ME3 was the bottom of the expectation range.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 11, 2019 22:36:39 GMT
Per wikipedia: "Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter estimated that Mass Effect: Andromeda shipped at least 2.5 million physical units in its opening quarter, resulting in $110 million in revenue." Add in digital sales from PS4, XBox and Origin...5 million since it's release 2 years ago is not far-fetched Shipped figures mean they sent copies to stores like Walmart, best buy, etc, as well as players. Shipped games does not equal sold games. It depends on what deal they have with the stores if the games don't sale. But I've given you EA's expectations 6-10 million. WHat ME3 sold, 6 million. As verifiable numbers from EA's CFO himself. ME:A had a worse launch and probably less than half the lifespan of ME3. There's no logical argument that can be made that ME:A sold anywhere near as much as ME3, and ME3 was the bottom of the expectation range. And we're both speculating so...
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Post by Steelcan on Mar 11, 2019 22:36:57 GMT
I mean if it ME: A underperformed, they would’ve said so. The fact that they were pleased with ME: A means the opposite. Funny how this "LITTLE" detail is always ignored when people like to make claims that a Bioware game failed. If they don't talk about it means it failed but if they do talk about it then it also means it failed... There seems to be a total binary where a game either succeeds or fails, that's not the case. Sometimes companies will take the effort to salvage an underwhelming release, Battlefield 4, Rainbow 6 Siege, For Honor, for example. Some game will be runaway successes, TW3, GTA 5, DA:I. Some games will do well but the company will not decide to support it for long, ME:A, TW: Thrones of Britannia, and of course some will just flop, Lawbreakers comes to mind.
We can look at BioWare's history and see that they launch SP heavy titles with continuing support in the form of DLC, that was their MO for games from ME1 up until DA:I. ME:A did not follow suit, and while it might not have been the flop it is commonly characterized to be, there were numerous plot threads that were clearly hinted at being DLC, the Quarian Ark for example. So while ME:A might not have been a total flop, it clearly didn't inspire confidence in continuing support like BioWare's previous games.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 11, 2019 22:39:25 GMT
The fourth fiscal quarter ends on March 31st. If EA has trouble reaching sales numbers, I suppose they'll offer some kind of discount before that date. Interesting. I wouldn't mind playing Anthem, even if my desire is mainly driven by morbid curiosity. Definitely not paying $90 CAD for the privilege tho. I played the demos and 10 hours of Origin access to satisfy my morbid curiousity
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Post by Heimdall on Mar 11, 2019 22:42:59 GMT
There seems to be a total binary where a game either succeeds or fails, that's not the case. Sometimes companies will take the effort to salvage an underwhelming release, Battlefield 4, Rainbow 6 Siege, For Honor, for example. Some game will be runaway successes, TW3, GTA 5, DA:I. Some games will do well but the company will not decide to support it for long, ME:A, TW: Thrones of Britannia, and of course some will just flop, Lawbreakers comes to mind. We can look at BioWare's history and see that they launch SP heavy titles with continuing support in the form of DLC, that was their MO for games from ME1 up until DA:I. ME:A did not follow suit, and while it might not have been the flop it is commonly characterized to be, there were numerous plot threads that were clearly hinted at being DLC, the Quarian Ark for example. So while ME:A might not have been a total flop, it clearly didn't inspire confidence in continuing support like BioWare's previous games. I largely agree, I just think the 18 month delay Andromeda put on all of Bioware’s other project’s is also a factor here. It wasn’t just the game, but Montreal’s ability to function without being bailed out by the other studios that failed to inspire confidence.
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Post by cypherj on Mar 11, 2019 22:58:38 GMT
Shipped figures mean they sent copies to stores like Walmart, best buy, etc, as well as players. Shipped games does not equal sold games. It depends on what deal they have with the stores if the games don't sale. But I've given you EA's expectations 6-10 million. WHat ME3 sold, 6 million. As verifiable numbers from EA's CFO himself. ME:A had a worse launch and probably less than half the lifespan of ME3. There's no logical argument that can be made that ME:A sold anywhere near as much as ME3, and ME3 was the bottom of the expectation range. And we're both speculating so... What exactly am I speculating? That the expectations were 6-10 million? That's a fact straight from the CFO. That ME3 sold 6 million? Another fact from the CFO. That the game had a far shorter lifespan than ME3. That's a fact. We all know how long it was between ME3 release and the last DLC, and how long it was between ME:A being released and EA pulling the plug. If the CEO came out after that and said that they expected to sell five million worldwide, Your words not mine. Then at that point they had already lowered their expectations after seeing the launch numbers. Then who knows if they even hit that.
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Post by OdanUrr on Mar 11, 2019 23:12:37 GMT
I largely agree, I just think the 18 month delay Andromeda put on all of Bioware’s other project’s is also a factor here. It wasn’t just the game, but Montreal’s ability to function without being bailed out by the other studios that failed to inspire confidence. I shudder to think of the state of Anthem today without that 18-month delay.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 12, 2019 0:13:56 GMT
And we're both speculating so... What exactly am I speculating? That the expectations were 6-10 million? That's a fact straight from the CFO. That ME3 sold 6 million? Another fact from the CFO. That the game had a far shorter lifespan than ME3. That's a fact. We all know how long it was between ME3 release and the last DLC, and how long it was between ME:A being released and EA pulling the plug. If the CEO came out after that and said that they expected to sell five million worldwide, Your words not mine. Then at that point they had already lowered their expectations after seeing the launch numbers. Then who knows if they even hit that. We're speculating what it actually sold...you think it's around 4 million, I think around 5 million and neither can be proved. All we know is the fact that the CEO stated to investors "actually performed really well, and player engagement is really strong". Also, an analyst stated: "Based upon industry sell-through data, we believe that EA sold-in at least 2.5 million units of Mass Effect: Andromeda, a March 21 release, for incremental revenue of $110 million.." for Q4 2016 March 21 - March 31st. www.thestreet.com/story/14114720/1/5-etfs-to-buy-if-you-love-ea-s-fourth-quarter-earnings.htmlYou think aroubd 4 million, I think around 5 million and no one knows for sure.
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Post by mgsmsc on Mar 12, 2019 0:19:55 GMT
It is very difficult to say. Personally I will hope for a DA4 free of GaaS or integrated closely with MP but I get the impression I will have to keep dreaming if/when it materializes. EA and Bioware are chasing the mass market and a new generation, Anthems' problems are not likely to change that. If they can start releasing titles like Anthem in a 'finished' state i.e. free of bugs and competitive with rivals, they can probably succeed in their goals.
However badly Anthem does it isn’t going to make the economics of the mass market go away. Big companies like EA are always going to want to tap that revenue stream and if that means sacrificing the support of 'Traditional Fans' then they will.
I am not sure they are right though, surely there is money to be made from a great single player RPG? It remains to be seen if Bioware want to or are capable of delivering such a thing.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 12, 2019 0:21:14 GMT
The fourth fiscal quarter ends on March 31st. If EA has trouble reaching sales numbers, I suppose they'll offer some kind of discount before that date. Interesting. I wouldn't mind playing Anthem, even if my desire is mainly driven by morbid curiosity. Definitely not paying $90 CAD for the privilege tho. You could just sign on to Origin Premier for a month.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 12, 2019 0:35:13 GMT
Interesting. I wouldn't mind playing Anthem, even if my desire is mainly driven by morbid curiosity. Definitely not paying $90 CAD for the privilege tho. You could just sign on to Origin Premier for a month. Or Origin basic. A 10 hour taste is plenty, and cheaper
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Post by Blast Processor on Mar 12, 2019 0:53:14 GMT
Interesting. I wouldn't mind playing Anthem, even if my desire is mainly driven by morbid curiosity. Definitely not paying $90 CAD for the privilege tho. I played the demos and 10 hours of Origin access to satisfy my morbid curiousity Haha. Nah, if I play it I'd want to play through the entirety of the campaign. You could just sign on to Origin Premier for a month. Or Origin basic. A 10 hour taste is plenty, and cheaper People people, I'm a console pleb (aka a card carrying member of the peasant horde). Consoles in a nutshell.
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Post by Polka Dot on Mar 12, 2019 1:43:09 GMT
I largely agree, I just think the 18 month delay Andromeda put on all of Bioware’s other project’s is also a factor here. It wasn’t just the game, but Montreal’s ability to function without being bailed out by the other studios that failed to inspire confidence. I shudder to think of the state of Anthem today without that 18-month delay. Every human would have had the same face?
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Post by Polka Dot on Mar 12, 2019 1:59:08 GMT
I think the lessons from Anthem can really help DA4. Fully integrating multiplayer into the plot would be an excellent start as they wimped out in DAI. Using the GAAS engine will also allow content to be delivered more like Anthem. That might require DA4 to be online only, but that's a small price to pay. #NotMyDragonAge My Dragon Age has party-based combat with a team that I get to choose, build, equip, and manage. My Dragon Age has a full team of interesting, well-written followers and opportunities for building relationships and romance. My Dragon Age offers me choices that have consequences and meaningful dialogue options. My Dragon Age lets me take every bit of it at my own pace, and doesn't care whether I'm online. My Dragon Age is a game I can play over and over again with different characters making different choices, realizing different outcomes, and seeing different content each time. My Dragon Age is a narrative-driven RPG. I'll accept no substitutes.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Mar 12, 2019 2:35:30 GMT
Where's this option? (Arnie's poll is better )
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Post by decafhigh on Mar 12, 2019 4:00:42 GMT
Anthem has been received really poorly - like way worse than I ever imagined to the point I am slightly stunned tbh. I think they're done, just don't know it yet. Well, I mean, its not as bad as FO76. At least Bioware isn't doxing people that put tickets into their support centers. That is something I guess. I agree though, even if they aren't outright closed after this EA is certain to tighten the reins on their budgets and creative freedom moving forward. Maybe I'm weird, but I thought Bioware's main studio was "diagnosed as terminally ill" with ME2. When the game started with Shep's contrived death, the shoehorning with Cerberus and the general meandering with the main plot, I was positive the Bioware of old was dead. I'm with you on that one. ME2 was easily my least favorite Bioware game that I have played.
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Post by bshep on Mar 12, 2019 8:36:22 GMT
Where's this option? (Arnie's poll is better ) Bioware must be Solomom Grundy to keep coming back.
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Post by kpeter on Mar 12, 2019 9:24:58 GMT
To OP, I think this is the start of the end of BW for sure. If this game will somehow turn out a success in the long run that's why. They will be forced to make more similar games in the future. If the game stays the mess it currently is then that's why. Their reputation is basically gone at this point. Years ago some could almost blindly buy a BW game, because there was almost no risk not buying a crappy game. But success or not, EA already said they are not interested in single player games anymore and this is where Bioware excelled at, good games with good storytelling. Bioware meant quality, but what does it mean now after Andromeda and now Anthem? Does not matter what they come up with in the future, the trust is lost. They alienated their big chunk of their core fans, every small mistake they do from now on will be magnified. Even if they show something promising, people will remain skeptical, we all know how different the final Anthem game is, compared to those promising E3 videos. They will have to do miracles to turn the tide from this point...
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