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Post by Hrungr on Mar 19, 2019 23:33:50 GMT
Jason Schreier @jasonschreierVia NPD data, this seems like a good sign for anyone worried that EA might not give BioWare the time to keep updating and fixing Anthem Good to hear. Though to be fair, BW has said Dragon Age: Inquisition was their bestselling launch title ever (and bestselling title period). But NPD might have tracked a slightly different period (Maybe ME3 sold more in the first month? Or...?)
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Post by river82 on Mar 19, 2019 23:39:04 GMT
Jason Schreier @jasonschreierVia NPD data, this seems like a good sign for anyone worried that EA might not give BioWare the time to keep updating and fixing Anthem Good to hear. Though to be fair, BW has said Dragon Age: Inquisition was their bestselling launch title ever (and bestselling title period). But NPD might have tracked a slightly different period (Maybe ME3 sold more in the first month? Just got their facts wrong?) NPD tracks only physical sales, and Inquisition was released two and a half years after Mass Effect 3. So maybe Inquisition sold more digitally. Also Bioware said Inquisition had the most successful launch ever, and I've never been quite comfortable changing that arbitrarily to mean "best selling launch". It might have meant something slightly different *shrugs*
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 19, 2019 23:45:35 GMT
NPD tracks only physical sales, and Inquisition was released two and a half years after Mass Effect 3. So maybe Inquisition sold more digitally. AFAIK, NPD started tracking digital sales in ~2016/2017, so maybe they didn't have the digital sales data for DA:I, but compared this to the physical sales of ME3 (when physical sales were still strong). Maybe...?
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Post by river82 on Mar 19, 2019 23:49:45 GMT
NPD tracks only physical sales, and Inquisition was released two and a half years after Mass Effect 3. So maybe Inquisition sold more digitally. AFAIK, NPD started tracking digital sales in ~2016/2017, so maybe they didn't have the digital sales data for DA:I, but compared this to the physical sales of ME3 (when physical sales were still strong). Maybe...? Well, ME3 was released 2012 so they wouldn't have digital data for either of them (ME3 not Andromeda). EDIT: They would have just compared physical data to physical data Also NPD tracks partial digital sales and only from participating ... people. EA sells their games through its own platform (I think none of their games are on Steam) and I just don't see them gifting their data to NPD
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Post by bshep on Mar 19, 2019 23:52:08 GMT
NPD tracks only physical sales, and Inquisition was released two and a half years after Mass Effect 3. So maybe Inquisition sold more digitally. AFAIK, NPD started tracking digital sales in ~2016/2017, so maybe they didn't have the digital sales data for DA:I, but compared this to the physical sales of ME3 (when physical sales were still strong). Maybe...? Was going to post that.
Anyway, is a great feat for a game released at the end of february turn out to be the most sold of said month, plus the second one from the year.
Hmm, makes me wonder which one was the most sold of the year so far...
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 19, 2019 23:52:51 GMT
Jason Schreier @jasonschreierVia NPD data, this seems like a good sign for anyone worried that EA might not give BioWare the time to keep updating and fixing Anthem Good to hear. Though to be fair, BW has said Dragon Age: Inquisition was their bestselling launch title ever (and bestselling title period). But NPD might have tracked a slightly different period (Maybe ME3 sold more in the first month? Just got their facts wrong?)
Where are the numbers? The chart shows the dollars stats for January 2019. Is that the VIP Demo launch? I mean what's not said? Premium Access subscription dollars? , Origin Access dollars?
Frankly I find the article misleading.
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Post by river82 on Mar 19, 2019 23:53:53 GMT
AFAIK, NPD started tracking digital sales in ~2016/2017, so maybe they didn't have the digital sales data for DA:I, but compared this to the physical sales of ME3 (when physical sales were still strong). Maybe...? Was going to post that.
Anyway, is a great feat for a game released at the end of february turn out to be the most sold of said month, plus the second one from the year.
Hmm, makes me wonder which one was the most sold of the year so far...
Kingdom Hearts 3 was first on their list in Jan, and 3rd in Feb, so it would likely be them
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Post by 10k on Mar 20, 2019 0:00:05 GMT
Well this isn't surprising. There was nothing good released in february besides Metro, and that game has a cult following. Anthem on the other hand is a looter-shooter; fans of the genre are like rabid dogs, they will consume just about anything in that genre. They are very fickle as well. They will move to one looter-shooter to the next, just trying to find their next fix. But all in all, this may be some good news for the people who want to still play.
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Post by river82 on Mar 20, 2019 0:02:18 GMT
Jason Schreier @jasonschreierVia NPD data, this seems like a good sign for anyone worried that EA might not give BioWare the time to keep updating and fixing Anthem Good to hear. Though to be fair, BW has said Dragon Age: Inquisition was their bestselling launch title ever (and bestselling title period). But NPD might have tracked a slightly different period (Maybe ME3 sold more in the first month? Just got their facts wrong?)
Where are the numbers? The chart shows the dollars stats for January 2019. Is that the VIP Demo launch? I mean what's not said? Premium Access subscription dollars? , Origin Access dollars?
Frankly I find the article misleading.
The data has been replicated in other articles - gonintendo.com/stories/331180-feb-2019-npd-top-10-software-sales-industry-wide-figures-andNPD figures have been the go to figures for over a decade. They give reliable sale figures for physical sales only within the US. If they say Anthem was the top selling game (physically) during that time period, that's pretty much the most reliable source
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Post by bshep on Mar 20, 2019 0:04:16 GMT
Jason Schreier @jasonschreierVia NPD data, this seems like a good sign for anyone worried that EA might not give BioWare the time to keep updating and fixing Anthem Good to hear. Though to be fair, BW has said Dragon Age: Inquisition was their bestselling launch title ever (and bestselling title period). But NPD might have tracked a slightly different period (Maybe ME3 sold more in the first month? Just got their facts wrong?)
Where are the numbers? The chart shows the dollars stats for January 2019. Is that the VIP Demo launch? I mean what's not said? Premium Access subscription dollars? , Origin Access dollars?
Frankly I find the article misleading.
That must be a typo, most games in mentioned there haven't even been released at that time.
Anyway, Anthem got the first one in February without PC digital sales included. Makes me wonder how much it sold on PC.
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Post by river82 on Mar 20, 2019 0:04:49 GMT
So here's an interesting little tidbit going by the chart in this article - gonintendo.com/stories/331180-feb-2019-npd-top-10-software-sales-industry-wide-figures-andIf you have a look at the notation beside Anthem on the yearly top-selling chart, it has an icon which denotes "PC digital sales not included". That icon is not there on the top February chart. I wish I could have a look at their actual report EDIT: I'm just going to take it as a typo. I don't see NPD prying data from EA
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 20, 2019 0:06:51 GMT
Jason Schreier @jasonschreierVia NPD data, this seems like a good sign for anyone worried that EA might not give BioWare the time to keep updating and fixing Anthem Good to hear. Though to be fair, BW has said Dragon Age: Inquisition was their bestselling launch title ever (and bestselling title period). But NPD might have tracked a slightly different period (Maybe ME3 sold more in the first month? Just got their facts wrong?) Good news indeed. Although if I have to be honest, the whole concept of Anthem in hindsight strikes me as a less than sound judgment call; I don't know what BioWare (by which I mean the higher-ups, most likely) thought when they decided to build an online looter-shooter when it shows that they have almost no experience in the genre as a whole, and the amount of negativity shows. It's clear that they would have EA's trademark revenue stream concept in place, but they would have been better served by making an SP game with a separate MP mode. (sound familiar?) Nevertheless, to say it doesn't have its fans is basically lying, and the setting has a lot of potential. So for the moment, I think we can consider this one to be a point in favor of Anthem getting continued support for a good time. Assuming it goes as such, it seems likely the game'll manage to pull itself from its current situation.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 20, 2019 0:08:24 GMT
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 20, 2019 0:08:35 GMT
Well, ME3 was released 2012 so they wouldn't have digital data for either of them (ME3 not Andromeda). EDIT: They would have just compared physical data to physical data I was trying to point out that ME3's physical sales might have been higher than DA:I's where digital may have had a higher proportion. But there's still something... wonky going on with NPD's data. At any rate though, Anthem's initial sales are clearly better than I think most had expected. I'm kinda surprised BW hadn't talked this point up themselves...
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Post by river82 on Mar 20, 2019 0:11:08 GMT
Well, ME3 was released 2012 so they wouldn't have digital data for either of them (ME3 not Andromeda). EDIT: They would have just compared physical data to physical data I was trying to point out that ME3's physical sales might have been higher than DA:I's where digital may have had a higher proportion. But there's still something... wonky going on with NPD's data. At any rate though, Anthem's initial sales are clearly better than I think most had expected. I'm kinda surprised BW hadn't talked this point up themselves... The lack of sales transparency in the gaming industry certainly infuriates a lot of people It makes me sad that Valve absolutely demolished SteamSpy. The data it provided was refreshing. Although they partially made up for it with that leak July last year :3
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 20, 2019 0:14:05 GMT
I was trying to point out that ME3's physical sales might have been higher than DA:I's where digital may have had a higher proportion. But there's still something... wonky going on with NPD's data. At any rate though, Anthem's initial sales are clearly better than I think most had expected. I'm kinda surprised BW hadn't talked this point up themselves...The lack of sales transparency in the gaming industry certainly infuriates a lot of people It makes me sad that Valve absolutely demolished SteamSpy. The data it provided was refreshing. Although they partially made up for it with that leak July last year :3 Totally agree. But BW were pretty quick to point out DA:I's success, and I guess they still could talk it up during the next earnings call...
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Post by bshep on Mar 20, 2019 0:31:14 GMT
So here's an interesting little tidbit going by the chart in this article - gonintendo.com/stories/331180-feb-2019-npd-top-10-software-sales-industry-wide-figures-andIf you have a look at the notation beside Anthem on the yearly top-selling chart, it has an icon which denotes "PC digital sales not included". That icon is not there on the top February chart. I wish I could have a look at their actual report EDIT: I'm just going to take it as a typo. I don't see NPD prying data from EA Capcom announced they shipped 4 million of copies of Resident Evil 2 Remake in a tweet on february 26.
Actual sales should be a bit lower but still Anthem beat RE2 numbers without origin sales being counted. Now if only we had a more or less accurate estimative of how much (%) origin sales represent on Bioware games we could try starting to take good guesses on how much Anthem sold.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 20, 2019 0:44:49 GMT
B-But the game is a total failure! Nobody bought that piece of crap!
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 20, 2019 0:56:40 GMT
There is no doubt in my mind that Anthem had all it needed to do well on sales (and particularly on pre-sales) and might be overall a quite succesful non-holiday-season release.
Anthem is EA's only new IP in several years (not considering Apex Legends, which came out of nowhere) and EA did advertise Anthem pretty aggressively (including misleading advertisement), they made Anthem the most hyped-up game of their E3 presentation last year and also pushed the game through the Gamers Change program, which transformed almost every Destiny 2's content creator into Anthem's content creators over the months of January and February (all of them have since moved back into Destiny 2 or onto Division 2). So yeah, EA did what they had to do to sell the game, which is downright marketing on multiple channels.
Whether Anthem will continue to sell going forward though (monthly subscriptions and microtransactions included) and whether the consumers will keep on playing it long-term, it remains to be seen. And those are problems that marketing can no longer solve. What they need now is a product at the level of that was sold.
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Post by papaspud on Mar 20, 2019 0:56:50 GMT
B-But the game is a total failure! Nobody bought that piece of crap! A lot of people may have bought it, but a lot of people have already stopped playing...I am 1, I am very disappointed with this game. Big early sales don't guarantee anything, except that since you bought this incomplete product- you will buy more- they don't care. The only thing that will give this game a tail end is having players, which I believe they are hemorrhaging while we speak.
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 20, 2019 1:06:37 GMT
So here's an interesting little tidbit going by the chart in this article - gonintendo.com/stories/331180-feb-2019-npd-top-10-software-sales-industry-wide-figures-andIf you have a look at the notation beside Anthem on the yearly top-selling chart, it has an icon which denotes "PC digital sales not included". That icon is not there on the top February chart. I wish I could have a look at their actual report EDIT: I'm just going to take it as a typo. I don't see NPD prying data from EA Capcom announced they shipped 4 million of copies of Resident Evil 2 Remake in a tweet on february 26.
Actual sales should be a bit lower but still Anthem beat RE2 numbers without origin sales being counted. Now if only we had a more or less accurate estimative of how much (%) origin sales represent on Bioware games we could try starting to take good guesses on how much Anthem sold.
If that's the case, that 5-6 million they were hoping to sell by the end of March might be attainable...
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Post by bshep on Mar 20, 2019 1:12:30 GMT
B-But the game is a total failure! Nobody bought that piece of crap! A lot of people may have bought it, but a lot of people have already stopped playing...I am 1, I am very disappointed with this game. Big early sales don't guarantee anything, except that since you bought this incomplete product- you will buy more- they don't care. The only thing that will give this game a tail end is having players, which I believe they are hemorrhaging while we speak.
That is reaching. You can't really jump from your singular experience to "the game is hemorraging players".
Those sales numbers show that the game was likely sucessfull on its release. Now Bioware just need to keep going to new content release, loot updates and bug patches. That will keep the game going on the long run.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 20, 2019 1:17:33 GMT
Jason Schreier @jasonschreierVia NPD data, this seems like a good sign for anyone worried that EA might not give BioWare the time to keep updating and fixing Anthem Good to hear. Though to be fair, BW has said Dragon Age: Inquisition was their bestselling launch title ever (and bestselling title period). But NPD might have tracked a slightly different period (Maybe ME3 sold more in the first month? Just got their facts wrong?) Good news indeed. Although if I have to be honest, the whole concept of Anthem in hindsight strikes me as a less than sound judgment call; I don't know what BioWare (by which I mean the higher-ups, most likely) thought when they decided to build an online looter-shooter when it shows that they have almost no experience in the genre as a whole, and the amount of negativity shows. I think negativity would be there unless Anthem got perfect scores or nothing below 9.5/10. It's something different and people have spread rumors that Mass Effect died for it (which is silly - the original trilogy ended with ME3, they gave the sequel (that was basically a new game) to their sub-studio to tinker with while they began working on something new) - the wariness was palpable. And that's entirely outside of realm of publishing a new IP and a new type of game for a studio. Besides... what were they supposed to do when they wanted to do something different and learn on that? They're a premier AAA studio - they won't be releasing smaller or indie-sized games. And while experience and game parts will affect other franchises (just like every game they've made has influenced in some way the subsequent ones) can you imagine the outrage if they've decided to try and experiment with looter-shooter co-op in their existing franchises? It's not like people didn't grouse at DAI multiplayer when it was revealed or are already losing mind over the idea of Dragon Age being almost exactly like Anthem (whatever that means) or predominantly multiplayer, regardless how many times BW underlines that Anthem is one thing and their established titles are another. So... what better way to learn new things than release a modular, expanding game like that - deal with initial negativity and then turn things around? It's not like this doesn't happen multiple times in a year at this point.
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Post by bshep on Mar 20, 2019 1:25:23 GMT
Capcom announced they shipped 4 million of copies of Resident Evil 2 Remake in a tweet on february 26.
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If that's the case, that 5-6 million they were hoping to sell by the end of March might be attainable... Yeah. Seems very possible Anthem will achieve this range of sales when you take into consideration origin sales aren't even there.
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Post by 10k on Mar 20, 2019 1:34:01 GMT
Capcom announced they shipped 4 million of copies of Resident Evil 2 Remake in a tweet on february 26.
Actual sales should be a bit lower but still Anthem beat RE2 numbers without origin sales being counted. Now if only we had a more or less accurate estimative of how much (%) origin sales represent on Bioware games we could try starting to take good guesses on how much Anthem sold. Resident evil 2 remake released in January, not february. Those 4 million were shipped over 2 months. Anthem had the biggest launch out of all games that were released in February. Resident evil was not one of those games lol.
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