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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 11, 2019 19:31:10 GMT
As opposed to... doing what, exactly? Face the past, keep what's good about it and keep going. Andromeda is not a blank slate, it's a tombstone. It did it once, it's going to do it again.
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Post by Phantom on Apr 11, 2019 20:23:38 GMT
well I do have a keycard to a Cerberus Armory that has several flamethrowers. Don't worry they work. The resident Cerberus Flamethrower specialist doesn't have access due to one time he gotten stupidly drunk and gotten a Flamethrower and wrecked the labs. I am tempted to replace him with someone that is bit more reasonable.
So we can warm Mass Effect up very well and for a long time.
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Post by samhain444 on Apr 11, 2019 21:01:39 GMT
As opposed to... doing what, exactly? Andromeda is not a blank slate, it's a tombstone. Actually, it's a galaxy...also a song by Gorillaz.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 11, 2019 21:28:28 GMT
Same topic as always here. Nothing new here. Gamble announced weeks ago that "Mass Effect is not dead, etc." Casey blogged much the same thing also ages ago.. so people can just re-read all the other threads around here. Sure, but it's a poster I've never seen before. I know I wouldn't spend my time going through thousands of posts to figure that out. Plus, the article is new.
I do hope a new ME game is coming, any maybe it is. I just don't think the article - or anything any devs said - means anything. When they say they're working on it then I'll believe it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 11, 2019 21:31:38 GMT
As opposed to... doing what, exactly? Face the past, keep what's good about it and keep going. Andromeda is not a blank slate, it's a tombstone. It did it once, it's going to do it again. The first problem was the graphics. That by itself nearly killed the game. Some people also found Ryder to be so light. Here's the thing, though. Say the same team who made MEA was asked to develop a Milky Way ME game with Shepard and all the old squadmates. How do you think it will be received?
Similarly, say the development team of ME2 was put on MEA2. Do you still think it would be a fail?
As I see it, the setting is a distant second to the writing. Don't like the writing? You'll hate anything from those writers, no matter where the game is set.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 11, 2019 21:57:51 GMT
EA isn't big on selling the IPs they've acquired over the years, they seem to prefer letting them rot, or turn them into mobile games. See Command and Conquer, Dungeon Keeper, Ultima etc. Oh, I know. It boils down to the same result in the end: not playing another Bioware game. But it's still not the same thing as saying I wouldn't play another Mass Effect game on principle because I hate Bioware now or something. I would LOVE more Mass Effect stories - in theory. I just have zero confidence in it being any good under EA. So why would I wish for one to be made? That's all.
I would want it to return as a series of small scale standalone games with a ton of choices. Detective story on Omega, space pirates... Non human protagonist or race selection. I would be fine with ANYTHING that sheds more light on all the alien races and their societies.
Sadly, EA has no interest in any of that.
You do realize that with the exception of ME1 ALL the other ME games were made by bioware when they were owned by EA.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 11, 2019 22:13:39 GMT
Oh, I know. It boils down to the same result in the end: not playing another Bioware game. But it's still not the same thing as saying I wouldn't play another Mass Effect game on principle because I hate Bioware now or something. I would LOVE more Mass Effect stories - in theory. I just have zero confidence in it being any good under EA. So why would I wish for one to be made? That's all.
I would want it to return as a series of small scale standalone games with a ton of choices. Detective story on Omega, space pirates... Non human protagonist or race selection. I would be fine with ANYTHING that sheds more light on all the alien races and their societies.
Sadly, EA has no interest in any of that.
You do realize that with the exception of ME1 ALL the other ME games were made by bioware when they were owned by EA. Yes, but that was before GaaS!
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 11, 2019 22:17:22 GMT
You do realize that with the exception of ME1 ALL the other ME games were made by bioware when they were owned by EA. Yes, but that was before GaaS! What is GaaS?
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Post by themikefest on Apr 11, 2019 22:17:44 GMT
Say the same team who made MEA was asked to develop a Milky Way ME game with Shepard and all the old squadmates. How do you think it will be received? I say it would be well received. The team is familiar with Shepard and the characters. All they have to do is keep them consistent to what they are/were in the previous games. I will lean to no. They bring Ryder back with new characters. They might have 2 characters from the first one show up. She/he realizes characters can't get away with doing stupid crap without some punishment. Throughout the game, Ryder is seen with a more serious attitude.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 11, 2019 22:21:10 GMT
Face the past, keep what's good about it and keep going. Andromeda is not a blank slate, it's a tombstone. It did it once, it's going to do it again. The first problem was the graphics. That by itself nearly killed the game. Some people also found Ryder to be so light. Here's the thing, though. Say the same team who made MEA was asked to develop a Milky Way ME game with Shepard and all the old squadmates. How do you think it will be received?
Similarly, say the development team of ME2 was put on MEA2. Do you still think it would be a fail?
As I see it, the setting is a distant second to the writing. Don't like the writing? You'll hate anything from those writers, no matter where the game is set.
If they make a sequel I will probably buy it no matter what. However WHEN I buy it is the question. Do I wait until it goes on sale or preorder the collectors edition the day it is announced. But they do NEED to fix those facial animations. And I hope that they fix how the way a character looks in character creation is different then how they look in the game. That was a problem they had in MEA and DAI.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 11, 2019 22:26:10 GMT
Yes, but that was before GaaS! What is GaaS? Games as a Service
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 11, 2019 22:27:30 GMT
Still don't understand what that means? Are you talking about an MMO type thing
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 11, 2019 22:31:10 GMT
So stuff like an MMO. I really hope they don't do this with the next mass effect game or dragon age game.
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No more games with Shepard and the Milky Way. That story is done.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 11, 2019 23:35:26 GMT
As opposed to... doing what, exactly? Face the past, keep what's good about it and keep going. Andromeda is not a blank slate, it's a tombstone. It did it once, it's going to do it again. Specifics? "Face the past" has to have a real meaning to you. What is it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 0:20:51 GMT
Same topic as always here. Nothing new here. Gamble announced weeks ago that "Mass Effect is not dead, etc." Casey blogged much the same thing also ages ago.. so people can just re-read all the other threads around here. Sure, but it's a poster I've never seen before. I know I wouldn't spend my time going through thousands of posts to figure that out. Plus, the article is new.
I do hope a new ME game is coming, any maybe it is. I just don't think the article - or anything any devs said - means anything. When they say they're working on it then I'll believe it.
The comment by Schrier this references is just basically confirming that, in regards to details about a new Mass Effect, he basically knows nothing more than the rest of us... that Bioware has been indicating in recent weeks that "Mass Effect is not dead, etc." People are putting a spin on Schrier's comment that just isn't there. He researched staff conditions. This is not a commitment to a remaster of the Trilogy or a sequel to the Trilogy specifically. All that is being indicated is that Bioware hopes/intends to release another Mass Effect game someday. Casey indicated, in fact, that is may draw from either Trilogy or Andromeda elements... or both. Just because Schrier commented on it doesn't make it new news.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 12, 2019 12:00:00 GMT
Face the past, keep what's good about it and keep going. Andromeda is not a blank slate, it's a tombstone. It did it once, it's going to do it again. Specifics? "Face the past" has to have a real meaning to you. What is it? What the fans have been crying about since March 2012: address the ending mess, give us the time with our comrades on the battlefield, explore dropped themes, both character-wise and lore-wise. There is still so much left hinted at, but unexplored in the Milky Way, that Andromeda didn't even come close to starting to establish, that there is nothing there. There is literally nothing in Andromeda right now, that is worth going back and exploring. Maybe one day, when Bioware is in a better place and that potential has been leveraged to a satisfactory degree, we can return to Andromeda, though that will still have a negative connotation, but people will be a lot more onboard to something that left a sour first taste. Right now, you need to build the Bioware name again. Let me put this another way; if Respawn came out tomorrow and announced Andromeda 2, I'd be more on board with them making the game, than I'd be with Bioware, because Respawn is in a very good place right now, in terms of market reception and people would trust them to deliver a good product. In fact, I wanna push it, now. I want Repsawn to make Andromeda 2, I hyped myself for that game. It's gonna be fucking incredible, I believe it. Bioware's Andromeda 2? Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 12, 2019 12:11:33 GMT
Face the past, keep what's good about it and keep going. Andromeda is not a blank slate, it's a tombstone. It did it once, it's going to do it again. The first problem was the graphics. That by itself nearly killed the game. Some people also found Ryder to be so light. Here's the thing, though. Say the same team who made MEA was asked to develop a Milky Way ME game with Shepard and all the old squadmates. How do you think it will be received?
Similarly, say the development team of ME2 was put on MEA2. Do you still think it would be a fail?
As I see it, the setting is a distant second to the writing. Don't like the writing? You'll hate anything from those writers, no matter where the game is set.
You are forgetting, or underestimating the mistrust people have developed towards Bioware. In recent years, they have dragged their name through the mud and people will not be as receptive to future Bioware products. The moment people hear Bioware and Andromeda 2, they'll start getting flashbacks to Andromeda meme compilations. This is a product that is doomed to failure, before it even gets out.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 12, 2019 12:28:50 GMT
The first problem was the graphics. That by itself nearly killed the game. Some people also found Ryder to be so light. Here's the thing, though. Say the same team who made MEA was asked to develop a Milky Way ME game with Shepard and all the old squadmates. How do you think it will be received?
Similarly, say the development team of ME2 was put on MEA2. Do you still think it would be a fail?
As I see it, the setting is a distant second to the writing. Don't like the writing? You'll hate anything from those writers, no matter where the game is set.
You are forgetting, or underestimating the mistrust people have developed towards Bioware. In recent years, they have dragged their name through the mud and people will not be as receptive to future Bioware products. The moment people hear Bioware and Andromeda 2, they'll start getting flashbacks to Andromeda meme compilations. This is a product that is doomed to failure, before it even gets out. That never happened, other than with hardcore gamers.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 12, 2019 12:37:43 GMT
You are forgetting, or underestimating the mistrust people have developed towards Bioware. In recent years, they have dragged their name through the mud and people will not be as receptive to future Bioware products. The moment people hear Bioware and Andromeda 2, they'll start getting flashbacks to Andromeda meme compilations. This is a product that is doomed to failure, before it even gets out. That never happened, other than with hardcore gamers. That is your opinion. How much are you willing to bet on that? Bioware Edmonton? I'm not willing to take that chance.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 12, 2019 15:30:51 GMT
Specifics? "Face the past" has to have a real meaning to you. What is it? What the fans have been crying about since March 2012: address the ending mess, give us the time with our comrades on the battlefield, explore dropped themes, both character-wise and lore-wise. There is still so much left hinted at, but unexplored in the Milky Way, that Andromeda didn't even come close to starting to establish, that there is nothing there. There is literally nothing in Andromeda right now, that is worth going back and exploring. Maybe one day, when Bioware is in a better place and that potential has been leveraged to a satisfactory degree, we can return to Andromeda, though that will still have a negative connotation, but people will be a lot more onboard to something that left a sour first taste. Right now, you need to build the Bioware name again. Let me put this another way; if Respawn came out tomorrow and announced Andromeda 2, I'd be more on board with them making the game, than I'd be with Bioware, because Respawn is in a very good place right now, in terms of market reception and people would trust them to deliver a good product. In fact, I wanna push it, now. I want Repsawn to make Andromeda 2, I hyped myself for that game. It's gonna be fucking incredible, I believe it. Bioware's Andromeda 2? Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. In your opinion. Meanwhile others think the Milky Way is the one that doesn’t really have anything to explore while Andromeda does. Then of course there is the ending issue which is honestly better left well enough alone rather than stirring up a hornet’s nest.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 12, 2019 15:36:26 GMT
That never happened, other than with hardcore gamers. That is your opinion. How much are you willing to bet on that? Bioware Edmonton? I'm not willing to take that chance. My opinion isn't a "chance".
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 12, 2019 15:57:52 GMT
That is your opinion. How much are you willing to bet on that? Bioware Edmonton? I'm not willing to take that chance. My opinion isn't a "chance". So you are absolutely certain that Andromeda 2 will be a sensational hit?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 12, 2019 16:03:01 GMT
In your opinion. Meanwhile others think the Milky Way is the one that doesn’t really have anything to explore while Andromeda does. Then of course there is the ending issue which is honestly better left well enough alone rather than stirring up a hornet’s nest. I bet on the popularity of the OT crew, on the little tidbits of lore that exploring the planets in ME1,2 and 3 left behind and the mouthwash that a return to the Milky Way will bring to the bad after taste of the ME3 ending, not to mention Andromeda. See, there is no hornets nest. ME3's ending is one of the most disappointing endings in any game ever. There is not a single article out there about said issue that doesn't feature the ME3 ending in its top ten. Oftentimes, it even clenches that top spot. Give Bioware a chance to make it right, give the fans a chance to believe that Bioware still loves them, still cares for them, that they want this all to be water under the bridge. And what a better way to show that good will, other than waving away that "Artistic Integrity" pretense. They already did it away twice for Andromeda, already. Once with Hainly Abrams and one more with Jaal.
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