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Post by cloud9 on Apr 16, 2019 2:22:44 GMT
If they really want to redeem themselves, then they should do a hard remake of the Trilogy. Just like Capcom did with Resident Evil 2 and look how they received positive feedback. If BioWare can pull it off then there's hope for them yet.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 16, 2019 7:33:19 GMT
If they really want to redeem themselves, then they should do a hard remake of the Trilogy. Just like Capcom did with Resident Evil 2 and look how they received positive feedback. If BioWare can pull it off then there's hope for them yet. Remakes are same old shit.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 16, 2019 11:04:48 GMT
I was saying don't remake the MET but instead move forward, even if we're in the same setting. IOW, it would be post-Reaper War. OK, yeah, sure. As far as God of War and Devil May cry, those are not RPGs. I was not talking about their gameplay mechanics, but their narrative direction and the progression of each setting, while retaining their protagonists and also, potentially, introducing a successor, easing the fanbase into a new lead, rather than taking the old protagonist out of the equation entirely. I think that, after the ME3 ending debacle and the poor reception of Andromeda, asking for the fanbase to either adapt to a new protagonist again, or going back to Ryder, after getting a lot of complaints about him/her,I just don't think it's a good idea and would hurt Bioware and the franchise a lot more.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 16, 2019 12:07:07 GMT
Eh, replaying the trilogy in higher graphical fidelity, isn't a bad idea. Of course, it wouldn't be Bioware that made that, as the game is already made. Maybe a smaller studio would do the work porting it all to Frostbyte with better textures, higher polygon models and DX11/DX12 graphical features. I wouldn't be against that. Maybe add some cut content back, as well? Maybe. It would also invigorate interest in the franchise and make it friendlier for younger players to engage with. If it also works something out better for the Milky Way in the end, or serve some other purpose, then maybe it won't be completely pointless, for older players. If it doesn't have new content though I don't see alot of people buying it. ME2 and ME3 aren't that far back in terms of graphics and such. So we would have to get new content to make it worth while. Here's how I see it; say we get a new game in the Milky Way. It's been 7 years NOW since ME3. You want people to remember the OT, so you make a remake in frostbyte, outsourced to another studio, so it doesn't take up Bioware's time, after all, you already have the games, as they played out and you don't need to write them anew. Kinda like how Demiurge ported ME1 to PC.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 16, 2019 12:10:01 GMT
Eh, replaying the trilogy in higher graphical fidelity, isn't a bad idea. Of course, it wouldn't be Bioware that made that, as the game is already made. Maybe a smaller studio would do the work porting it all to Frostbyte with better textures, higher polygon models and DX11/DX12 graphical features. I wouldn't be against that. Maybe add some cut content back, as well? Maybe. It would also invigorate interest in the franchise and make it friendlier for younger players to engage with. If it also works something out better for the Milky Way in the end, or serve some other purpose, then maybe it won't be completely pointless, for older players. I can't think of a price point where this would work for me. Unless cut content gets in, but that strikes me as a pipe dream. There wasn't all that much of that which ever got anywhere near releasable. It's just for reinvigorating the interest in the OT for a post ME3 game set in the Milky Way. Just to refresh people's memory and to re-experience it in higher graphical fidelity.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 16, 2019 15:22:31 GMT
So the entire case for this is for people who aren't us to play it? OK. I know what I'm going to buy and play, but what flies with gamers at large isn't really my thing.
Having said that, I'm skeptical that the trilogy is obsolete enough for a remaster to work.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 16, 2019 16:15:21 GMT
I can't think of a price point where this would work for me. Unless cut content gets in, but that strikes me as a pipe dream. There wasn't all that much of that which ever got anywhere near releasable. It's just for reinvigorating the interest in the OT for a post ME3 game set in the Milky Way. Just to refresh people's memory and to re-experience it in higher graphical fidelity. It'd be a waste of money to develop for such fringe interest.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 16, 2019 16:32:27 GMT
It's just for reinvigorating the interest in the OT for a post ME3 game set in the Milky Way. Just to refresh people's memory and to re-experience it in higher graphical fidelity. It'd be a waste of money to develop for such fringe interest. Yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. But what if it generated new interest for the series? As in that it manages to draw in new fans and some old fans buy it again. I know I'd be interested in a higher fidelity Mass Effect with fixes to old bugs and maybe some improvements to gameplay mechanics. I guess I could be overestimating people's interest in an OT remake.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 16, 2019 16:38:44 GMT
If they really want to redeem themselves, then they should do a hard remake of the Trilogy. Just like Capcom did with Resident Evil 2 and look how they received positive feedback. If BioWare can pull it off then there's hope for them yet. That might also be nice. Might lead to a better outcome than the current ME3 is. Or maybe not even a Reaper war for another 1 thousand years, since fighting the Reapers is impossible. I mean, we've already not fought them once. No reason to not fight them twice. So the entire case for this is for people who aren't us to play it? OK. I know what I'm going to buy and play, but what flies with gamers at large isn't really my thing. Having said that, I'm skeptical that the trilogy is obsolete enough for a remaster to work. It's more to make a new version for older gamers to engage again and to introduce younger ones to the original trilogy, since ME1 is now 12 years old.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 16, 2019 17:56:11 GMT
Go forward not backwards. They should make Mass Effect: Andromeda 2 and no remake and remaster. Capcom and Square can do that because they have huge popular games that people have wanted to see remade for decades, simply put BioWare doesn't have that (and I can play KOTOR 1, Jade Empire, ME 1-3, MEA, and the DA games and most of the DLC/expansion on my Xbox One S so I don't need a stupid remaster) and no matter how "good" it is pandering fanservice never works as a long term business plan and just stagnates a series that doesn't need to stagnate.
Like it or not MEA was the FRESH start to the ME saga needed and there are a LOT more stories to tell in the Andromeda galaxy going back to the Milky Way. It's time for the ME to move on from the adventures of Commander Shepard and company and that story is told. Regardless if you love, hate, or indifferent to the endings to ME3 that story is OVER. DONE. FINISHED. COMPLETE. I don't want another ME game set in the Milky Way because it's the past.
They should just go forward with the adventures of Pathfinder Ryder and company. That is the FUTURE.
Like I said I've not interested in going backwards I want to go forwards and to me I loved MEA and want to see that story continue and I'm sick of whiny entitled shits wanting every media to stay just the same.
So my advice to BioWare is do MEA2 and don't waste my time with a remake, remaster, reboot, or whatever. There is enough of that stuff out already.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 16, 2019 18:00:19 GMT
So my advice to BioWare is do MEA2 or don't do anything with the series. Well, I think that Andromeda 2 will be a tombstone for Bioware. And if Bioware starts making games that isn't Mass Effect, are we going to be getting games that are like Anthem? Because I can't see them making another fantasy medieval RPG. I don't think they'll want to compete with CDPR in a Cyberpunk RPG. So what should they make, if not Mass Effect.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 16, 2019 18:09:35 GMT
Well, I think that Andromeda 2 will be a tombstone for Bioware. And if Bioware starts making games that isn't Mass Effect, are we going to be getting games that are like Anthem? Because I can't see them making another fantasy medieval RPG. I don't think they'll want to compete with CDPR in a Cyberpunk RPG. So what should they make, if not Mass Effect.
I don't, ME1 was subpar and ME2 was light years ahead. Trash companies like CDPR because they games are cheap clones of BioWare games.
I think that's an extreme stance. Then again, maybe so is mine, but I've tried to explain it throughout this thread as best as I can. Could you elaborate?
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 16, 2019 18:52:18 GMT
I don't, ME1 was subpar and ME2 was light years ahead. Trash companies like CDPR because they games are cheap clones of BioWare games.
I think that's an extreme stance. Then again, maybe so is mine, but I've tried to explain it throughout this thread as best as I can. Could you elaborate?
IMHO MEA is ME1 done right.
In retrospect ME1 is pretty bad game, (and FTR I played it on the Xbox 360 and PS3), I mean the combat and inventory sucks, the graphics have serve framerate drops and pops and in some cutscenes take forever to load. Most of the characters are walking expositions and in some cases are boring as hell (listening to Tali to talk in ME1 has put almost put me to sleep) Garrus and Wrex are the only two with any kind of story development. The rest are just talking codex entries. Saren in game is the WORST BioWare villain in the company's history, we're never told his reasons as to why he does the things he does other than "He hates humans." and "He's crazy." You have to read a comic book mini-series and novel to get any of his backstory and he's supposed to be like an evil James Bond style when he is a lame henchmen/sidekick to Soverign. The only reason he's rated as a "great villain" is because Shepard can talk him into blowing his brains out.
In MEA:
Liam as an arc.
Cora as an arc.
Drack as an arc. Peebee as an arc. Jaal as an arc. Vetra as an arc.
Gil as an arc. Kallo as an arc. Suvi as an arc. Ryder as an arc.
Some of the character arcs are simple but they are different characters at the end they are at beginning. I'm also more interested in seeing the building a brand new galactic civilization than fighting for one that is ancient, weak, failing, and just plain falling apart like in ME1.
Sure I'll admit The Archon is a simple villain, but you know what? I miss those evil bastards who are just evil bastards type villains. I do occasionally want beat a villain who isn't "a fallen hero" or "misunderstood" or whatever bullshit the creators have said, and I have had just about my fill of it in most media. He has a simple plan: find Meridian and use to force everybody to submit to exaltation or he will use Meridian to destroy them. That is it. No fuss. No muss. Just a villain I want to see die before he does his evil plan. I love the combat, the inventory, and the Nomad is the best vehicle/mount BioWare has created. I love the design of the Tempest, the Nexus, and the Arks. I love the humor, voice acting, the characters, and the hard choices that I'm presented with in MEA. Most of all I loved most about Mass Effect Andromeda was the sheer amount of pure and unadulterated FUN I had playing it multiple times on both my Xbox One S and PS4.
I want to know know about the Jardaan, the Scourge, the Remanent, the Kett, the Angara, who is the benefactor, and who murdered Garson, will Ryder twins save their mother, see what happened to the Quarian ark, and help make and shape a new galactic civilization and see the rest of the Andromeda galaxy. That to me is far more exciting and interesting than going back to the Milky Way Galaxy and see what happened there and that is something BioWare could do that in cinematic short film.
I have seen to many franchises nearly ruined or just plain ruined by backwards continuity fixation fanservice porn that includes Star Wars, Star Trek, The Transformers, G.I. Joe, Dr. Who, Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Mega Man, Sonic, and that is the short list. You want to play MET find go ahead but I want Mass Effect to grow and change and that means going forward.
I respect and visit the past, but I don't live in the past.
I have tried to like CDPR games but they aren't for me.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 16, 2019 19:14:05 GMT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Could not disagree more. ME1 was an awesome game. MEA could have done better by having an ally turned into an enemy. Saren was always an untrustworthy asshole but he also tried to come through for organics (in his own twisted way) when it came down to it. Prior to indoctrination, he obviously had it in his head that if they submitted to slavery that they might one day rise up against the Reapers. I do think you're seriously deluded about why people think Saren was great. I thought he was a great villain not because he was evil but because he thought he could save organics. He was a villain because of his past not based on what he did in ME1. He was already indoctrinated before we ever encountered him. I find it so hard to believe that this wasn't glaringly obvious. Per the hate humans, did you not notice that many turians hated humans? Including the Councilor! Including Vyrnnus. The turians and humans went to war. Clearly the turians didn't like the outcome. Maybe some people need it directly spelled out but it seemed obvious to me and I only found the MET three years ago. Now, you don't have to like the game. Plenty see it as the worst of the MET and think it needs the most overhaul. I loved it. I loved the greater choices of any of the Mass Effect games, and that includes MEA. Arcs were okay. Gil's was lame, tbh. Liam made me want to throw him out the airlock. Peebee I would have dumped in the lava. Don't recall any kind of arcs for Suvi and Kallo. The rest were decent. There's no doubt ME1 used some of the cast as info dumps. We did get minor bits of what might later be considered loyalty missions. It mostly only impacted Wrex in ME1 but was relevant in the next two games. Not a fan of CDPR myself but I'm a huge fan of cyberpunk. FP view doesn't bother me because it's obviously meant for you to get into the role of the character and she what he or she sees. If you don't like CDPR I'm sure they'll manage. I'm no longer pre-ordering any game but there's no reason not to check out reviews and videos (perhaps from people you trust).
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 16, 2019 19:29:35 GMT
Don't recall any kind of arcs for Suvi and Kallo. Suvi had her dealing with regrets of leaving her family to follow her passion for science by going to Andromeda as well as a kind of crisis of faith when learning about the Jaardan. Lexi has her dealing with people seeing her as uncaring like PeeBee as well as readjusting into a field medic role. Kallo had dealing with his eidetic memory in order to let the past go and accept change. They weren’t as extensive as the companions’s arcs sure, but they had them.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 16, 2019 19:37:49 GMT
I think that's an extreme stance. Then again, maybe so is mine, but I've tried to explain it throughout this thread as best as I can. Could you elaborate?
IMHO MEA is ME1 done right.
In retrospect ME1 is pretty bad game, (and FTR I played it on the Xbox 360 and PS3), I mean the combat and inventory sucks, the graphics have serve framerate drops and pops and in some cutscenes take forever to load. Most of the characters are walking expositions and in some cases are boring as hell (listening to Tali to talk in ME1 has put almost put me to sleep) Garrus and Wrex are the only two with any kind of story development. The rest are just talking codex entries. Saren in game is the WORST BioWare villain in the company's history, we're never told his reasons as to why he does the things he does other than "He hates humans." and "He's crazy." You have to read a comic book mini-series and novel to get any of his backstory and he's supposed to be like an evil James Bond style when he is a lame henchmen/sidekick to Soverign. The only reason he's rated as a "great villain" is because Shepard can talk him into blowing his brains out.
In MEA:
Liam as an arc.
Cora as an arc.
Drack as an arc. Peebee as an arc. Jaal as an arc. Vetra as an arc.
Gil as an arc. Kallo as an arc. Suvi as an arc. Ryder as an arc.
Some of the character arcs are simple but they are different characters at the end they are at beginning. I'm also more interested in seeing the building a brand new galactic civilization than fighting for one that is ancient, weak, failing, and just plain falling apart like in ME1.
Sure I'll admit The Archon is a simple villain, but you know what? I miss those evil bastards who are just evil bastards type villains. I do occasionally want beat a villain who isn't "a fallen hero" or "misunderstood" or whatever bullshit the creators have said, and I have had just about my fill of it in most media. He has a simple plan: find Meridian and use to force everybody to submit to exaltation or he will use Meridian to destroy them. That is it. No fuss. No muss. Just a villain I want to see die before he does his evil plan. I love the combat, the inventory, and the Nomad is the best vehicle/mount BioWare has created. I love the design of the Tempest, the Nexus, and the Arks. I love the humor, voice acting, the characters, and the hard choices that I'm presented with in MEA. Most of all I loved most about Mass Effect Andromeda was the sheer amount of pure and unadulterated FUN I had playing it multiple times on both my Xbox One S and PS4.
I want to know know about the Jardaan, the Scourge, the Remanent, the Kett, the Angara, who is the benefactor, and who murdered Garson, will Ryder twins save their mother, see what happened to the Quarian ark, and help make and shape a new galactic civilization and see the rest of the Andromeda galaxy. That to me is far more exciting and interesting than going back to the Milky Way Galaxy and see what happened there and that is something BioWare could do that in cinematic short film.
I have seen to many franchises nearly ruined or just plain ruined by backwards continuity fixation fanservice porn that includes Star Wars, Star Trek, The Transformers, G.I. Joe, Dr. Who, Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Mega Man, Sonic, and that is the short list. You want to play MET find go ahead but I want Mass Effect to grow and change and that means going forward.
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I have tried to like CDPR games but they aren't for me.
don't forget the amazing RP.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 16, 2019 19:53:25 GMT
If they really want to redeem themselves, then they should do a hard remake of the Trilogy. Just like Capcom did with Resident Evil 2 and look how they received positive feedback. If BioWare can pull it off then there's hope for them yet. Resident evil 2 and mass effect are very different games though. Resident evil to my knowledge doesn't have decsion making stuff like mass effect. Also resident evil two originally came out in the nineties if I remember right and obviously didn't compare with modern gameplay and graphics so improving them was a big deal. Mass effect 2 and 3 are close enough to todays games in terms of gameplay and graphics and such that there is very little difference between them and "current" games. ME1 is the only one lacking in that regard.
All that said if they add a bunch of content and such I think it would sell well too. So basically if they add more content to it (not just a few cut conversations) and have some way to import games then yeah it would sell well in my opinion.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 16, 2019 20:10:46 GMT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Could not disagree more. ME1 was an awesome game. MEA could have done better by having an ally turned into an enemy. Saren was always an untrustworthy asshole but he also tried to come through for organics (in his own twisted way) when it came down to it. Prior to indoctrination, he obviously had it in his head that if they submitted to slavery that they might one day rise up against the Reapers. I do think you're seriously deluded about why people think Saren was great. I thought he was a great villain not because he was evil but because he thought he could save organics. He was a villain because of his past not based on what he did in ME1. He was already indoctrinated before we ever encountered him. I find it so hard to believe that this wasn't glaringly obvious. Per the hate humans, did you not notice that many turians hated humans? Including the Councilor! Including Vyrnnus. The turians and humans went to war. Clearly the turians didn't like the outcome. Maybe some people need it directly spelled out but it seemed obvious to me and I only found the MET three years ago. Now, you don't have to like the game. Plenty see it as the worst of the MET and think it needs the most overhaul. I loved it. I loved the greater choices of any of the Mass Effect games, and that includes MEA. Arcs were okay. Gil's was lame, tbh. Liam made me want to throw him out the airlock. Peebee I would have dumped in the lava. Don't recall any kind of arcs for Suvi and Kallo. The rest were decent. There's no doubt ME1 used some of the cast as info dumps. We did get minor bits of what might later be considered loyalty missions. It mostly only impacted Wrex in ME1 but was relevant in the next two games. Not a fan of CDPR myself but I'm a huge fan of cyberpunk. FP view doesn't bother me because it's obviously meant for you to get into the role of the character and she what he or she sees. If you don't like CDPR I'm sure they'll manage. I'm no longer pre-ordering any game but there's no reason not to check out reviews and videos (perhaps from people you trust).
I think ME1 was good however it doesn't age well. I am not a fan of the gameplay and some of the voice acting is meh. That said I think it was a good game for other things. As for saren I thought it was clear he was doing this to save organics in his mind. And as for cyberstrikes villains just being villains I am a fan of those as well. Sometimes you want a villain who isn't doing something bad because it's the right thing to do in his mind but just because he likes to do it and is a bad guy. However I thought it obvious that saren was at least partially indoctrinated through the whole game since you see him fighting it or getting mad when shepard questions him about him helping soverign. Also some of the companions didn't shine through like they later did.
While I liked MEA and yes would like to see it get a sequel (though I would prefer a return to the milky way and shep) I can recognize it had alot of faults. Beyond the obvious gameplay,animation,and tech problems it had there was also some less then great story moments. Some of the companions were meh and needed some improvment. Again I am not saying MEA sucked or anything but it wasn't perfect.
I am not a CDPR fan boy but I can definetly recognize that the witcher 2 and 3 were great games. Were they perfect no. is the witcher 3 the greatest game ever that is up to the player but while it is in my top ten it doesn't beat ME2 and ME3 pre star kid.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 16, 2019 20:11:03 GMT
All that said if they add a bunch of content and such I think it would sell well too. So basically if they add more content to it (not just a few cut conversations) and have some way to import games then yeah it would sell well in my opinion. It would almost be worth it if content was added to allow both Ashley and Kaidan to survive Virmire. That was originally meant to be a possibility. However, that would require some minor overhauls to ME2 and big overhauls to ME3.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 16, 2019 20:11:16 GMT
IMHO MEA is ME1 done right.
In retrospect ME1 is pretty bad game, (and FTR I played it on the Xbox 360 and PS3), I mean the combat and inventory sucks, the graphics have serve framerate drops and pops and in some cutscenes take forever to load. Most of the characters are walking expositions and in some cases are boring as hell (listening to Tali to talk in ME1 has put almost put me to sleep) Garrus and Wrex are the only two with any kind of story development. The rest are just talking codex entries. Saren in game is the WORST BioWare villain in the company's history, we're never told his reasons as to why he does the things he does other than "He hates humans." and "He's crazy." You have to read a comic book mini-series and novel to get any of his backstory and he's supposed to be like an evil James Bond style when he is a lame henchmen/sidekick to Soverign. The only reason he's rated as a "great villain" is because Shepard can talk him into blowing his brains out.
In MEA:
Liam as an arc.
Cora as an arc.
Drack as an arc. Peebee as an arc. Jaal as an arc. Vetra as an arc.
Gil as an arc. Kallo as an arc. Suvi as an arc. Ryder as an arc.
Some of the character arcs are simple but they are different characters at the end they are at beginning. I'm also more interested in seeing the building a brand new galactic civilization than fighting for one that is ancient, weak, failing, and just plain falling apart like in ME1.
Sure I'll admit The Archon is a simple villain, but you know what? I miss those evil bastards who are just evil bastards type villains. I do occasionally want beat a villain who isn't "a fallen hero" or "misunderstood" or whatever bullshit the creators have said, and I have had just about my fill of it in most media. He has a simple plan: find Meridian and use to force everybody to submit to exaltation or he will use Meridian to destroy them. That is it. No fuss. No muss. Just a villain I want to see die before he does his evil plan. I love the combat, the inventory, and the Nomad is the best vehicle/mount BioWare has created. I love the design of the Tempest, the Nexus, and the Arks. I love the humor, voice acting, the characters, and the hard choices that I'm presented with in MEA. Most of all I loved most about Mass Effect Andromeda was the sheer amount of pure and unadulterated FUN I had playing it multiple times on both my Xbox One S and PS4.
I want to know know about the Jardaan, the Scourge, the Remanent, the Kett, the Angara, who is the benefactor, and who murdered Garson, will Ryder twins save their mother, see what happened to the Quarian ark, and help make and shape a new galactic civilization and see the rest of the Andromeda galaxy. That to me is far more exciting and interesting than going back to the Milky Way Galaxy and see what happened there and that is something BioWare could do that in cinematic short film.
I have seen to many franchises nearly ruined or just plain ruined by backwards continuity fixation fanservice porn that includes Star Wars, Star Trek, The Transformers, G.I. Joe, Dr. Who, Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Mega Man, Sonic, and that is the short list. You want to play MET find go ahead but I want Mass Effect to grow and change and that means going forward.
I respect and visit the past, but I don't live in the past.
I have tried to like CDPR games but they aren't for me.
don't forget the amazing RP. What is RP?
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 16, 2019 20:13:31 GMT
Role play, as in "role playing game".
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 16, 2019 20:16:40 GMT
All that said if they add a bunch of content and such I think it would sell well too. So basically if they add more content to it (not just a few cut conversations) and have some way to import games then yeah it would sell well in my opinion. It would almost be worth it if content was added to allow both Ashley and Kaidan to survive Virmire. That was originally meant to be a possibility. However, that would require some minor overhauls to ME2 and big overhauls to ME3. I would like to have them both survive however I recognize it was supposed to be shep making a decison that was a sacrifice no matter what he does. I think if they remake it they might as well change some stuff and if that is one of the changes then cool. However what must change is that damn ending. If they want to sell alot of games then change the ending and People will mob the store to get it.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 16, 2019 20:17:41 GMT
Role play, as in "role playing game". I thought that it was supposed to be some game series or something. Can't believe I didn't catch that.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 16, 2019 20:18:26 GMT
All that said if they add a bunch of content and such I think it would sell well too. So basically if they add more content to it (not just a few cut conversations) and have some way to import games then yeah it would sell well in my opinion. It would almost be worth it if content was added to allow both Ashley and Kaidan to survive Virmire. That was originally meant to be a possibility. However, that would require some minor overhauls to ME2 and big overhauls to ME3.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 21:11:52 GMT
I don't want the ending changed. I liked it.
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