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Post by cloud9 on Sept 12, 2019 21:15:31 GMT
Me personally, BioWare should replay and learn from Origins to introduce a proper dark theme, complex characters, playable back stories of the main character, and to revamp the story for the trilogy. Rebooting the trilogy would be a good start to earning trust from players. As long as they do it right, of course.
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Post by Phantom on Sept 12, 2019 21:26:16 GMT
Me personally, BioWare should replay and learn from Origins to introduce a proper dark theme, complex characters, playable back stories of the main character, and to revamp the story for the trilogy. Rebooting the trilogy would be a good start to earning trust from players. As long as they do it right, of course. Well Darker yes. Are you familar with tvtropes? there is Darkness induce Apathy trope that involves making a story too dark where that it feels hopeless.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 12, 2019 21:31:32 GMT
If they reboot, why not have the squadmates from the trilogy be the crew, while the crew from the trilogy become the squadmates?
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 13, 2019 3:06:48 GMT
Many of the 10/10 reviews, however, state outright that they are ranking the game that high as a direct reaction to the number of fake 0/10 reviews they noticed' and if one fully reads their comments they do actually review the game pretty thoroughly... including mentioning faults they saw in it. There are far more 0/10 reviews that just go on EA and SJW rants and don't really review the game itself at all. Some don't even mention the game. Sure, they maybe sometimes write better reviews on top of it. But in absolute numbers i am not sure its enough of a difference to skew the score much. Maybe the 0 would have realistically given it a 3, and then 10 would have given it a 8. Hard to say since so many people treat 0-10 differently. I'm unconsciously stuck on the American grading system where a 7 is average others put 5 as the average. Though to be fair 0 out of 10 is generous for TLJ, that movie sucked. I dont agree. I liked TLJ.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 13, 2019 3:10:20 GMT
I remember. Still plenty of review bombing with low scores happened. Some of them weren't too legit. Rt just denies it.
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 13, 2019 7:19:19 GMT
Well, he doesn't actually deny that review bombing happened. He just denies that the review bombing which did happen was done by bots.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 13, 2019 14:06:22 GMT
Well, he doesn't actually deny that review bombing happened. He just denies that the review bombing which did happen was done by bots. But it also doesn't mean that the movie was much disliked, also made evident by Solo's box office performance and the fact that Star Wars toys aren't selling right now. People aren't picking up Rose Ticos, even if people give them away. I personally own a Rose Tico and gifted an Admiral Holdo to a friend.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 13, 2019 20:49:20 GMT
I remember. Still plenty of review bombing with low scores happened. Some of them weren't too legit. Rt just denies it. Benson's comments on the passion of fanboys, and marveling at the reactions leads me to believe that the majority of the lower score reviews that were cleared by RT's filtering system were legit reactions, but were on the melodramatic end of the spectrum because fanboys tend to be pendantic, think in extremes, or lack sophistication when conveying their criticisms. The fake reviews that managed to make it past filtering should be far fewer in number, and not impact the rating's total like how a swarm of unfiltered bot reviews would just based on the volume of fake reviews needed to negatively impact the total score, or the sheer effort needed by a coordinated non bot spam op to avoid being flagged.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 13, 2019 21:24:47 GMT
star Wars does seem to punch above its weight when it comes to attracting douchebags to its fandom. I've never understood why. We good boys do nuffin wrong, but man those Trekkies are real pieces of work, right?...
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Post by Phantom on Sept 13, 2019 22:38:10 GMT
star Wars does seem to punch above its weight when it comes to attracting douchebags to its fandom. I've never understood why. We good boys do nuffin wrong, but man those Trekkies are real pieces of work, right?... As an public spokeman of Both Cerberus and Section 31, Trekkies as a whole are not crazy. We do send the crazy ones to the test labs to be experimented on.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 14, 2019 1:25:23 GMT
We good boys do nuffin wrong, but man those Trekkies are real pieces of work, right?... As an public spokeman of Both Cerberus and Section 31, Trekkies as a whole are not crazy. We do send the crazy ones to the test labs to be experimented on. I only kid about Trekkies but both of the fandoms are tame when compared to the cancer that are Steven Universe, Rick and Morty, Dragon Ball and Zack Snyder fandoms.
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Post by Phantom on Sept 14, 2019 15:42:08 GMT
As an public spokeman of Both Cerberus and Section 31, Trekkies as a whole are not crazy. We do send the crazy ones to the test labs to be experimented on. I only kid about Trekkies but both of the fandoms are tame when compared to the cancer that are Steven Universe, Rick and Morty, Dragon Ball and Zack Snyder fandoms. I know. And I do think that those toxic fans should be brought in line due to their toxic-ness.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 16, 2019 2:47:04 GMT
Well, he doesn't actually deny that review bombing happened. He just denies that the review bombing which did happen was done by bots. But it also doesn't mean that the movie was much disliked, also made evident by Solo's box office performance and the fact that Star Wars toys aren't selling right now. People aren't picking up Rose Ticos, even if people give them away. I personally own a Rose Tico and gifted an Admiral Holdo to a friend. It was divisive nothing more. To me it was a great Star Wars movie and I can't wait for Rise of the Skywalker.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 16, 2019 12:01:57 GMT
It was divisive nothing more Yes, it was. ME3 was also divisive. Andromeda was divisive again and Anthem, yet again. As for Star Wars, after TLJ, was Solo also divisive?
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 16, 2019 18:20:48 GMT
It was divisive nothing more Yes, it was. ME3 was also divisive. Andromeda was divisive again and Anthem, yet again. As for Star Wars, after TLJ, was Solo also divisive? Solo was more liked. Me 3 wasn't that divisive just the endings.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 17, 2019 11:01:12 GMT
Solo was more liked. Me 3 wasn't that divisive just the endings. OK. But Solo didn't do that well financially. And Andromeda didn't do that well financially, either.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 17, 2019 14:06:02 GMT
Solo was more liked. Me 3 wasn't that divisive just the endings. OK. But Solo didn't do that well financially. And Andromeda didn't do that well financially, either. True about Solo. All we know about Andromeda was it didn't meet expected sales expectations but still sold decent enough.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 17, 2019 14:34:00 GMT
That depends on the investment. No company will drop a successful product. For EA to have dropped Andromeda that fast, it was not a successful product.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 17, 2019 15:53:13 GMT
That depends on the investment. No company will drop a successful product. For EA to have dropped Andromeda that fast, it was not a successful product. Sure they would, if they had nobody available to work on it. You know, like what actually happened.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 17, 2019 15:55:18 GMT
Sure they would, if they had nobody available to work on it They had an entire studio available. I mean, Montreal DID exist in some form up until Andromeda's release. If EA had been that impressed with its performance, there's no way they would have dropped that.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 17, 2019 16:05:33 GMT
Sure they would, if they had nobody available to work on it They had an entire studio available. I mean, Montreal DID exist in some form up until Andromeda's release. If EA had been that impressed with its performance, there's no way they would have dropped that. Montreal was being turned into part of Motive, which takes a lot longer So was clearly in the works even before MEA came out. Then Motive was all hands on deck for getting one of EA’s big games out (though a few were still able to support MEA MP). Edmonton was busy with Anthem, and Austin SWTOR. So no, they didn’t have an entire studio available.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 17, 2019 16:39:00 GMT
That depends on the investment. No company will drop a successful product. For EA to have dropped Andromeda that fast, it was not a successful product. As I've said before Andromeda was not dropped just no dlc was released. They are still supporting MP AFAIK.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 17, 2019 16:42:00 GMT
Montreal was being turned into part of Motive, which takes a lot longer Speculation, you have no actual way of knowing that and no evidence to back up that claim. Then Motive was all hands on deck for getting one of EA’s big games out (though a few were still able to support MEA MP) Speculation. EA DICE was the developer and Motive was merely a collaborator. Even so Criterion is listed higher on the list of collaborators, meaning Motive had the least amount of work to do with Battlefront. Even so, Motive was mostly involved in another Star Wars project, their main project, with Visceral Games, which was officially canceled in October of 2017. So, according to you, Bioware Montreal, who had just released a very profitable game for EA, was forced to close down, in order to be merged with Motive, to work in a title that they were complete foreign bodies, instead of taking the people in Motive that were already working in a Star Wars game that EA weren't confident enough to begin with and that ended with the project's cancellation. No, Motive demonstrably had the man power to collaborate to the extent EA wanted them to, it just wasn't profitable for them to keep Montreal alive after the critical failure of Andromeda's launch and its failure to grasp that exponential growth the industry enjoyed. Edmonton was busy with Anthem, and Austin SWTOR. So no, they didn’t have an entire studio available. Austin wasn't that busy with SW:ToR, what with their first big content upgrade, which I've been told by people here isn't that big to begin with, coming this October, two and a half years after Andromeda's release.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 17, 2019 16:43:33 GMT
As I've said before Andromeda was not dropped just no dlc was released. They are still supporting MP AFAIK. The last time we had conversation, the last MP update Bioware had listed for Andromeda was back in February of 2018. If by support you mean they've kept the servers alive, the same goes for ME3MP.
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 17, 2019 17:13:55 GMT
As I've said before Andromeda was not dropped just no dlc was released. They are still supporting MP AFAIK. The last time we had conversation, the last MP update Bioware had listed for Andromeda was back in February of 2018. If by support you mean they've kept the servers alive, the same goes for ME3MP. Fair enough.
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