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Post by samhain444 on May 3, 2019 22:00:54 GMT
Was anything of significance launched by EA apart from Apex Legends and Anthem? Obviously, you have the Live Service elements of games like FIFA and Maddon that they will report but you'd imagine those two games would get the focus of investors follow up questions if not EA's own focus. Revenue is nothing but money made from sales. If a game is the only major release in a quarter, of course it's going to account for a good percentage of the revenue. But that has nothing so do with if the game met its expectations, how well it continued to sell after launch, whether or not you incurred extra expenses for the time that went into fixing the game. What affect that had on the margins on the project. They won't discuss any of these types of details. That's just an example of kind of vague things they say on these calls. Most people don't know what it means. They hear revenue, profits, and if the company made earnings they really don't care about the details. Well, why would they discuss those details when they are only showing the results of Q4 2018 (Jan 1 - Mar 31 2019)? They have some nice talking point regardless...Best selling game in Feb 2019 in only 7 days...Third best selling game of the year (Per NPD - 1st Quarter)...
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Post by cypherj on May 3, 2019 22:31:17 GMT
Revenue is nothing but money made from sales. If a game is the only major release in a quarter, of course it's going to account for a good percentage of the revenue. But that has nothing so do with if the game met its expectations, how well it continued to sell after launch, whether or not you incurred extra expenses for the time that went into fixing the game. What affect that had on the margins on the project. They won't discuss any of these types of details. That's just an example of kind of vague things they say on these calls. Most people don't know what it means. They hear revenue, profits, and if the company made earnings they really don't care about the details. Well, why would they discuss those details when they are only showing the results of Q4 2018 (Jan 1 - Mar 31 2019)? They have some nice talking point regardless...Best selling game in Feb 2019 in only 7 days...Third best selling game of the year (Per NPD - 1st Quarter)... See, this is exactly what I'm taking about. Games make the biggest percentage of their revenue during launch week. So it doesn't matter whether the game was released Feb 1st or Feb 22nd, the results are not going to change much as long as the launch window was in the month. But throwing in the in just 7 days makes it sound so much better. Also, what came out this year so far other than Anthem. I'm guessing the top selling games are Kingdom Hearts and the Division 2, the latter of which came out after Anthem. The rest of the games on the list probably came out in 2018. Aside from Sekiro, which is more of a niche game and the Resident Evil remake, what was the competition? Like I said, it all sounds good on a call, but most of the things they say tell you nothing of how something is actually doing from a business perspective. If they miss earnings and have to explain why. Yeah, you'll get the full port mortem, but aside from that it will be fluff.
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Post by samhain444 on May 3, 2019 23:20:34 GMT
Well, why would they discuss those details when they are only showing the results of Q4 2018 (Jan 1 - Mar 31 2019)? They have some nice talking point regardless...Best selling game in Feb 2019 in only 7 days...Third best selling game of the year (Per NPD - 1st Quarter)... See, this is exactly what I'm taking about. Games make the biggest percentage of their revenue during launch week. So it doesn't matter whether the game was released Feb 1st or Feb 22nd, the results are not going to change much as long as the launch window was in the month. But throwing in the in just 7 days makes it sound so much better. Also, what came out this year so far other than Anthem. I'm guessing the top selling games are Kingdom Hearts and the Division 2, the latter of which came out after Anthem. The rest of the games on the list probably came out in 2018. Aside from Sekiro, which is more of a niche game and the Resident Evil remake, what was the competition? Like I said, it all sounds good on a call, but most of the things they say tell you nothing of how something is actually doing from a business perspective. If they miss earnings and have to explain why. Yeah, you'll get the full port mortem, but aside from that it will be fluff. Yeah, I said "nice talking points"..."fluff" as you call it, but fluff backed up by industry wide reporting. Also, as a new IP, being beat by "Kingdom Hearts III", a highly anticipated sequel to a beloved series 10 years in the making, and "The Division 2", a sequel to an established and successful game, is nothing to be ashamed of...not mention beating out "Resident Evil 2" in just 7 days, after it had come out 1 month prior, is impressive. This stuff is not hard to "spin" as a positive.
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Post by masterwarderz on May 4, 2019 2:14:43 GMT
See, this is exactly what I'm taking about. Games make the biggest percentage of their revenue during launch week. So it doesn't matter whether the game was released Feb 1st or Feb 22nd, the results are not going to change much as long as the launch window was in the month. But throwing in the in just 7 days makes it sound so much better. Also, what came out this year so far other than Anthem. I'm guessing the top selling games are Kingdom Hearts and the Division 2, the latter of which came out after Anthem. The rest of the games on the list probably came out in 2018. Aside from Sekiro, which is more of a niche game and the Resident Evil remake, what was the competition? Like I said, it all sounds good on a call, but most of the things they say tell you nothing of how something is actually doing from a business perspective. If they miss earnings and have to explain why. Yeah, you'll get the full port mortem, but aside from that it will be fluff. Yeah, I said "nice talking points"..."fluff" as you call it, but fluff backed up by industry wide reporting. Also, as a new IP, being beat by "Kingdom Hearts III", a highly anticipated sequel to a beloved series 10 years in the making, and "The Division 2", a sequel to an established and successful game, is nothing to be ashamed of...not mention beating out "Resident Evil 2" in just 7 days, after it had come out 1 month prior, is impressive. This stuff is not hard to "spin" as a positive. It is positive, positively misleading.
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Post by masterwarderz on May 4, 2019 2:15:28 GMT
Great? It isn't the case, pretend to yourself that the studio closing out had nothing to do with the backlash against Andromeda seems delusion to me. My misunderstanding then Yep.
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Post by samhain444 on May 4, 2019 7:38:05 GMT
Yeah, I said "nice talking points"..."fluff" as you call it, but fluff backed up by industry wide reporting. Also, as a new IP, being beat by "Kingdom Hearts III", a highly anticipated sequel to a beloved series 10 years in the making, and "The Division 2", a sequel to an established and successful game, is nothing to be ashamed of...not mention beating out "Resident Evil 2" in just 7 days, after it had come out 1 month prior, is impressive. This stuff is not hard to "spin" as a positive. It is positive, positively misleading. Because it's actually quoted in industry articles independent of EAs participation? Yeah, nailed that one, chief
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Post by seven on May 4, 2019 9:27:44 GMT
Wow, looks like the two people that play on GM1+ have found each other. That's so sweet. Hey, theres 3 of us ok! 🤪
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Post by XCPTNL on May 5, 2019 13:45:06 GMT
It's so annoying when you want to play with a team and the game hardly finds other players. And on the other hand you have no option to play strongholds solo and exclude randos from joining. I really want to do stronghold solos but the furthest I got so far in GM2 was to the second chest in ToS. I thought Bioware changed that people won't join a game in progress after a few minutes but someone dropped into my game right after the second chest and that was the end of my solorun
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Post by force58 on May 5, 2019 15:38:45 GMT
I think I just need to get to level 30 and then be able to switch to GM 1. There's nobody, except maybe one, that shows up in any hard activity now. You play on ps4? Nope, Xbox, unfortunately...
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Post by force58 on May 5, 2019 15:40:38 GMT
It has been for me over this past week and was the reason I posted this. Weird as it could be my level. I've already decided to just grind it out in the story missions or freeplay until I reach level 30. I can't get anybody to MP into my games in hard mode for some reason.
You could try it on Normal. New players are more likely to be playing on normal and at least you'll have a group then that will boost your Xp and get you to level 30 more quickly.
Good idea, I'll try that too. Just found out Wildlands released another free DLC group of story missions, so finishing them first.
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Post by tatarforas on May 5, 2019 20:13:15 GMT
I’ll admit I haven’t touched Anthem since I got back from Hawaii. Been spending almost all my free time playing Stellaris on the Xbox. Such a great game. How is Stellaris? I've been think of picking it up on steam, does it play more like CK2 or EUIV?
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Post by masterwarderz on May 5, 2019 21:16:50 GMT
It is positive, positively misleading. Yeah, nailed that one, chief I know right, it isn't reliant on citation of articles that still lack the data needed to actually cite definitive profitability or lack there of.
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Post by PillarBiter on May 6, 2019 12:06:24 GMT
Yeah, I said "nice talking points"..."fluff" as you call it, but fluff backed up by industry wide reporting. Also, as a new IP, being beat by "Kingdom Hearts III", a highly anticipated sequel to a beloved series 10 years in the making, and "The Division 2", a sequel to an established and successful game, is nothing to be ashamed of...not mention beating out "Resident Evil 2" in just 7 days, after it had come out 1 month prior, is impressive. This stuff is not hard to "spin" as a positive. It is positive, positively misleading. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... snap!
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Post by Pounce de León on May 6, 2019 12:14:25 GMT
I’ll admit I haven’t touched Anthem since I got back from Hawaii. Been spending almost all my free time playing Stellaris on the Xbox. Such a great game. How is Stellaris? I've been think of picking it up on steam, does it play more like CK2 or EUIV? It kinda is a grand st4ategy game. Cant compare to CK but it is pretty different to HoI and EU.
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Post by Sanunes on May 6, 2019 13:36:09 GMT
I do regret coming into this thread, but I will give my two cents. Any game in this genre has a die off after a month or two because there are people that play to the end of the story content and then leave. People here have said people have moved onto The Division 2 and that is probably true when it was released, but right now the Division 2 is having its own problems with delaying the raid and Title Update 3. You can see similar comments for it on Reddit as Anthem with people saying they are done with the game for there is nothing to do. Now could it be worse for Anthem of course, but as long as there is a playerbase that can sustain updates even if they do become less frequent due to a smaller playerbase I don't see how it won't continue. I think there is evidence that even with a small group of people playing the game EA will support it because they are still supporting The Old Republic and it doesn't have a very large audience anymore either and it didn't have a very successful launch.
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Post by boozebeast on May 6, 2019 15:53:12 GMT
Unfortunately, Anthem has suffered at the hands of devs who ignore the player base, and seem to have given up on actually making meaningful improvements to the game.
The loot system has been broken since day 1. They tried to improve it by simply increasing item levels, which did nothing. Then they claimed they had fixed loot in strongholds, which in reality they only removed green gear. They did nothing to drop rates, so players were running GM1 and GM2 strongholds for weeks on end with no usable loot. What's the point of playing a game if you can't improve your character? Even GM3 runs produce nothing but blues/purples and an occasional MW.
Players have had enough, and we have left Anthem in droves because the devs refuse to accept the fact that they dropped the ball, and ignored us. Because of that, Anthem seems to be suffering the same fate as For Honor did when devs of that game refused to make common sense improvements at the request of its player base.
With new, previously substantiated titles being released like The Division 2 and Borderlands 3, Anthem will continue to see a decline in player base as long as the devs refuse to make the improvements that players are asking for.
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Post by Sartoz on May 6, 2019 17:04:28 GMT
Unfortunately, Anthem has suffered at the hands of devs who ignore the player base, and seem to have given up on actually making meaningful improvements to the game. ---- ---- Snip ---- ----
Not quite. The "DEVs" are the worker bees. They ought to be saluted for their hard work. The problems lies at management's feet for their lack of vision, indecision and lack of direction. As General Eisenhower once said (paraphrasing) , "an organisation is like a string. If you push at it, it goes nowhere but if you pull at it, the rest follows...."
Anthem lacked leadership.
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Post by tatann on May 6, 2019 17:15:59 GMT
Unfortunately, Anthem has suffered at the hands of devs who ignore the player base, and seem to have given up on actually making meaningful improvements to the game. ---- ---- Snip ---- ----
Not quite. The "DEVs" are the worker bees. They ought to be saluted for their hard work. The problems lies at management's feet for their lack of vision, indecision and lack of direction. As General Eisenhower once said (paraphrasing) , "an organisation is like a string. If you push at it, it goes nowhere but if you pull at it, the rest follows...."
Anthem lacked leadership.
"Devs" refers to the game developers (Bioware), as opposed to the game publisher (EA) Devs can mean designers (art or gameplay), animators, testers, community managers and also producers/managers, it's not only reduced to the software developer (coders)
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Post by Camel on May 6, 2019 18:24:47 GMT
I’ll admit I haven’t touched Anthem since I got back from Hawaii. Been spending almost all my free time playing Stellaris on the Xbox. Such a great game. How is Stellaris? I've been think of picking it up on steam, does it play more like CK2 or EUIV? You should try it. It's one of Paradox's hits:
1. Beautiful graphics with titanic battles of fleets consisting of thousands ships, like in Total War you have both strategic and tactical layers. 2. Empire-building - you can make a democratic utopia where all aliens will want to emigrate to your shining beacon in the ruthless galaxy or you can rule with iron fist and enjoy creating a brutal tyranny with purges and gulags. 3. Strong diplomacy with military alliances and they even have a Federation there. 4. There are interesting late game events including the Shadow - Vorlon war from Babylon 5.
5. Paradox changed quite a bit with their huge update and it plays like a new game with completely new planetary interface and hyper travel.
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Post by Superhik on May 6, 2019 18:48:38 GMT
Rumor has it of secret area some players have discovered, where loot is plenty and missions varied
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Post by boozebeast on May 7, 2019 3:32:17 GMT
Yes, you are correct, management at Bioware is a joke. It's not necessarily on the staff. But I stand by what I said. I have friends who have worked in the game development industry for 20+ years, and none of the games either of my friends have worked on ever had issues like this.
Anthem has been out a while, and the loot tables are still jacked up, the game is so full of bugs Terminix couldn't help it, and the game servers at EA are so outdated that the game is often unplayable due to lag. All in all, Anthem is a massive fail.
Luckily, I didn't pay for Anthem as it's included in Origin Premium, but I will NEVER pre-order a game from Bioware after this fiasco.
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Post by Slartibartfast on May 7, 2019 10:53:27 GMT
and the game servers at EA are so outdated that the game is often unplayable due to lag Never had any lag problem with Anthem whatsoever - in fact not with any Origin game for quite a while now. Such problems may as well be caused by your ISP, etc. It might help you to look for Firewall ports to open for EA services (quite a few).
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Post by Mobius Y on May 7, 2019 12:27:25 GMT
I’ll admit I haven’t touched Anthem since I got back from Hawaii. Been spending almost all my free time playing Stellaris on the Xbox. Such a great game. How is Stellaris? I've been think of picking it up on steam, does it play more like CK2 or EUIV? -Shrug- Stellaris Console and Stelllaris PC are currently very different.
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Post by force58 on May 7, 2019 14:36:00 GMT
Not much of a conspiracy theory when it's fact, be careful you are turning into Sofa. Treating the Lead Producers moving back to Dragon Age (or Mass Effect) as anything other than normal planning seems total tin-foil hat thinking to me. Both Chad Robertson and Mike Gamble have been tweeting to confirm continued support for Anthem in the face of the nonsense clickbait that's been doing the rounds. I'm glad there are a few more people pursuing a rational line around here. It's been weird for me. I got through the story, credits rolled, then the new games came out so I've been away from Anthem for awhile. Just when I come back, after 2 updates, I find nobody playing. I think I'll take the suggestion and move from hard to normal to see if that brings people in. I'd like to get to level 30 so I can go into GM1. I feel it could take awhile since I'm only 24 now. The game play is what I like and I'm not at the point where I'm looking for the ultimate loot. I only have one yellow piece, AR, and I think that was part of the pre-order loot. I'm not sure why there's so much hatred out there. I'm glad to hear the company still stands behind the game.
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Post by force58 on May 7, 2019 14:40:30 GMT
Unfortunately, Anthem has suffered at the hands of devs who ignore the player base, and seem to have given up on actually making meaningful improvements to the game. ---- ---- Snip ---- ----
Not quite. The "DEVs" are the worker bees. They ought to be saluted for their hard work. The problems lies at management's feet for their lack of vision, indecision and lack of direction. As General Eisenhower once said (paraphrasing) , "an organisation is like a string. If you push at it, it goes nowhere but if you pull at it, the rest follows...."
Anthem lacked leadership.
AMEN...
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