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Post by Gileadan on May 13, 2019 14:35:25 GMT
That's a load of never done before bullshit.
In your opinion.
It doesn't change the fact that this was, and I believe still is, the intention behind the game.
It may have been the intention, but it certainly has been done before, and in my opinion, better too. Warframe has decisions in story mode, some memorable single player quest moments and an operator with very customizable looks and five different skill trees in addition to the skills attached to the by now about 40 frames. Which RPG / looter shooter elements does Anthem have that mark it as "not seen or done before" in this context?
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Post by force58 on May 13, 2019 14:41:19 GMT
It's three months minus ten days since Anthem's launch and the price is now at $37.77 from Amazon.
With loot and progression issues, the disappearance of the Road Map, bug fixes that take one step forward and two steps back and an ever dwindling player base, is this game worth buying at this price point?. Remember, this game is design as a co-op and finding "friends" is becoming problematical.
Thoughts anyone?
Wait to see what BioWare and EA's plans are first. I've played since launch and finding a full 4 person team is challenging now to say the least. People say to switch difficulty levels but that hasn't worked for me either. I'm level 24 right now and will make it to 30 eventually, maybe, but that's the only way to access the higher difficulty levels. The gameplay itself is really fun but they really messed up the launch and the overall design of the game. A major overhaul would be needed to fix it and I'm not sure they'll do that, or if its even warranted, worth it.
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Post by force58 on May 13, 2019 14:51:58 GMT
I doesn't happen even if you can skip the tombs. Like I can on my second pilot. Like I did yesterday. I'm still way past your ten hours and not close to the finishing line. The only way to do it is by skipping story content. Still, the story so far is shorter then MEA and probably even ME1 but in ME1s case I'm not sure since we got the Sunken cells stronghold addition. I, personally, don't see what you all seem to see as ME1 is being so easy to beat. I don't care what some website (https://howlongtobeat.com/) says that it takes to beat. I dunno if you're powergamers or just that hyped on caffeine or cocaine. Prolly the latter. But it always took me 10-20 hours longer than what it says to beat the game than what it says. Sorry meth heads. It's not really necessary to call people meth heads or to suggest they used drugs to beat the game so fast. I realize what you mean't, but your point could have been made a lot better if you had refrained from doing it that way. Some people, like streamers, rush to the end to get to the endgame and that's ok. I'm like you in that I don't rush to the end. I usually do a lot of the side missions in most games and casually play the story missions as I level up. It was weird with Anthem as I had no idea I was that close to the end of the story when the credits rolled. I think I was only level 17 or 18 at the time. As far as hours go, I've got over 50 hours of actual play time in the game and if it weren't for the fact I can't find people to play via MP, I'd still be playing. The game is a mess with the loot system, the lag, the drop-outs, etc., but it has gotten better with everything but the loot. Shame on EA and BioWare for releasing it when they did and in the condition it was in.
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Post by force58 on May 13, 2019 14:58:11 GMT
I found the HLTB website sometimes misleading: I'm currently playing The Bureau (XCOM) and I'm only level 5 (out of 10 I think) after 8 hours. So I check HLTB to see the average playthrough is about 10 hours. So at first I'm worrying I'm far behind in terms of leveling, and also I feel the story is just developping so I'm worried the ending is rushed, but then I see some people took 26h in "leisure" mode (my playstyle). But I guess it's a good tool for "corridor" games (5-10 hours linear campaign), just not games with side quests, dialogues or open world Guy needs 30 h for playthru: Guy sucks and never got gud. Guy needs 15 h for playthru: Shit game sucks with no content. There doesn't ever appear to be a happy medium does it. Sad. I play games to have fun and escape the trials of daily life. People that rush through a game and then judge it based on the number of hours aren't doing themselves or the game any favors. I ignore "typical" play through time and just enjoy the game, however long it takes to complete it.
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Post by Space Cowboy on May 13, 2019 15:02:24 GMT
I wasn’t the one asserting it was equivalent
It seemed to me you were trying to deny equivalence by comparing apples with oranges which was what my post was intended to point out.
The other poster asked, to my comment about playing content over and over, if I never played Mass Effect more than once. Right there is your apples and oranges comparison, so go after them. In any case, the point of replaying individual missions in anthem is not to replay those stories as far as I understand. It’s to get better loot. The looter part of looter shooter. As much as I liked Virmire, for instance, if offered the chance to replay just that mission, apart from the rest of the game, repeatedly, I would decline. I see no point in doing such a thing. But this is what Anthem is designed to do. Some people like that option. Good for them. *shrug* Anthem is not designed to play more than once. There is little point to doing so. The story doesn’t change beyond some minor npcs to my understanding. If I’m wrong please feel free to spoil me. Also, starting a new pilot gives you the exact same content, as far as unlocks go. You can’t start fresh and approach getting javelins a different way. This all means, it’s like an mmo in the sense that you play through once and raid over and over. All this is not even considering the repetitive nature of the missions themselves. Meaning you either collect glowing things and place them in a spot, or you protect a location. I think there was one other variation.
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Post by ayenari on May 13, 2019 15:05:35 GMT
No.
There's a fairly good chance they'll relaunch it as F2P later to revitalize player numbers if they get around to fixing all the issues.
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Post by Pounce de León on May 13, 2019 15:20:18 GMT
No. There's a fairly good chance they'll relaunch it as F2P later to revitalize player numbers if they get around to fixing all the issues. Even if that were the case, the hype is spent. The fire doesn't burn as much. It dint help Evolve, and there is a good chance it wont help Anthem either. Plus you fuck up the ppl who paid the price at launch for being dumb. So you end up with dilemma to keep old players happy and attract new ones just as well - it's hard to pull off.
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Post by cypherj on May 13, 2019 15:43:56 GMT
It seemed to me you were trying to deny equivalence by comparing apples with oranges which was what my post was intended to point out.
This all means, it’s like an mmo in the sense that you play through once and raid over and over. All this is not even considering the repetitive nature of the missions themselves. Meaning you either collect glowing things and place them in a spot, or you protect a location. I think there was one other variation. They're two different types of collecting missions. But aside from that what you've heard is pretty accurate, aside from a puzzle here and there. That's one of my issues with the game, the mission design. They don't even leverage the game's best aspect in missions, which is the flying.
As far as replay value. The main story is not going to change any. Talking with my best friend when we used to play, a couple of the NPC dialogue chains we got different outcomes on. Nothing story changing, though some could have been with some effort.
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Post by samhain444 on May 13, 2019 16:07:41 GMT
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Post by 10k on May 13, 2019 18:08:05 GMT
For that amount you can buy ME3, and have a more satisfying looter-shooter experience with the multiplayer and have money left over to get some quality ice cream to enjoy while you play.
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Post by xrayspex73 on May 13, 2019 22:34:29 GMT
Almost $40 is FAR too much to pay for this game. I would wait until it is at least 4x cheaper or wait until it eventually goes F2P.
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Post by Sartoz on May 13, 2019 22:56:27 GMT
I, personally, don't see what you all seem to see as ME1 is being so easy to beat. I don't care what some website (https://howlongtobeat.com/) says that it takes to beat. I dunno if you're powergamers or just that hyped on caffeine or cocaine. Prolly the latter. But it always took me 10-20 hours longer than what it says to beat the game than what it says. Sorry meth heads. It's not really necessary to call people meth heads or to suggest they used drugs to beat the game so fast. I realize what you mean't, but your point could have been made a lot better if you had refrained from doing it that way. Some people, like streamers, rush to the end to get to the endgame and that's ok. I'm like you in that I don't rush to the end. I usually do a lot of the side missions in most games and casually play the story missions as I level up. It was weird with Anthem as I had no idea I was that close to the end of the story when the credits rolled. I think I was only level 17 or 18 at the time. As far as hours go, I've got over 50 hours of actual play time in the game and if it weren't for the fact I can't find people to play via MP, I'd still be playing. The game is a mess with the loot system, the lag, the drop-outs, etc., but it has gotten better with everything but the loot. Shame on EA and BioWare for releasing it when they did and in the condition it was in.
Myself, I'm a completionist. It was easy to put 80+ hours into DA:I searching for treasure in that big open world. But, humping up and down escarpments was not fun at all. In any case, I could take my time.
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Post by bladefist on May 13, 2019 23:13:12 GMT
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Post by correctamundo on May 14, 2019 7:13:19 GMT
It seemed to me you were trying to deny equivalence by comparing apples with oranges which was what my post was intended to point out.
The other poster asked, to my comment about playing content over and over, if I never played Mass Effect more than once. Right there is your apples and oranges comparison, so go after them. In any case, the point of replaying individual missions in anthem is not to replay those stories as far as I understand. It’s to get better loot. The looter part of looter shooter. As much as I liked Virmire, for instance, if offered the chance to replay just that mission, apart from the rest of the game, repeatedly, I would decline. I see no point in doing such a thing. But this is what Anthem is designed to do. Some people like that option. Good for them. *shrug* Anthem is not designed to play more than once. There is little point to doing so. The story doesn’t change beyond some minor npcs to my understanding. If I’m wrong please feel free to spoil me. Also, starting a new pilot gives you the exact same content, as far as unlocks go. You can’t start fresh and approach getting javelins a different way. This all means, it’s like an mmo in the sense that you play through once and raid over and over. All this is not even considering the repetitive nature of the missions themselves. Meaning you either collect glowing things and place them in a spot, or you protect a location. I think there was one other variation. Replaying ME is the exact same content as well. So replaying ME over and over is doing the same content over and over. Just because you can run Tyrant mine over and over doesn't mean you have to, unless you like it. Then go ahead. Anthem can be played and replayed just like the traditional SP experience. Just start a new pilot, choose a different call sign and you're good to go. Your suggestion that we as players are in some fashion forced to play a certain Stronghold over and over is wrong. Whether or not a player likes the story or not is a personal preference. Me I do it all. I replay the story with an new pilot, make different choices and get different outcomes. I replay strongholds, all Strongholds, and Legendary contracts, and Legendary missions, and freeplay. And there are way more mission variants than the "skeptics" give credit.
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Post by Camel on May 14, 2019 7:42:45 GMT
Where is a poll?
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Post by vorchainteriordesign on May 14, 2019 13:25:52 GMT
3.77 STILL TOO MUCH.
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Post by xrayspex73 on May 14, 2019 15:59:34 GMT
I replay strongholds, all Strongholds, and Legendary contracts, and Legendary missions, and freeplay. And there are way more mission variants than the "skeptics" give credit.
There really isn't though. The 4 strongholds get mighty boring after a few runs, and there is no variety in contracts at all. You do the same mission objectives 3 times in a row that you will struggle to keep your eyes open during contracts. There is no real sense of exploration after a few hours either which makes freeplay just an empty shell. Literally all other open-world games have a far better sense of exploration than Anthem does on its best day.
Also, the javelins look stupid and generic. Not sure I agree with giving the javelins chicken legs (digitigrade).
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Post by goishen on May 16, 2019 5:16:02 GMT
I, personally, don't see what you all seem to see as ME1 is being so easy to beat. I don't care what some website (https://howlongtobeat.com/) says that it takes to beat. I dunno if you're powergamers or just that hyped on caffeine or cocaine. Prolly the latter. But it always took me 10-20 hours longer than what it says to beat the game than what it says. Sorry meth heads. But have you ever even tried to speed run it? I play KOTOR for at least 40 hours each time, but the game can be completed under 2 hours. Fallout 2 can be done in 15 minutes, Morrowind in 5 or something. Otherwise those games can take 100+ hours. No. Why? Is that a requirement?
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Post by reiichiroh on May 16, 2019 5:24:40 GMT
Hell no. Unless money means nothing to you.
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Post by saandrig on May 16, 2019 5:52:09 GMT
But have you ever even tried to speed run it? I play KOTOR for at least 40 hours each time, but the game can be completed under 2 hours. Fallout 2 can be done in 15 minutes, Morrowind in 5 or something. Otherwise those games can take 100+ hours. No. Why? Is that a requirement? The only ever game requirement is the system one 😉
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Post by masterwarderz on May 22, 2019 23:33:45 GMT
Maybe at 3.99
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Post by Sartoz on May 23, 2019 6:27:41 GMT
Amazon dropped the price to $29.99US, from $37.77US a couple of weeks ago.
Guess the game is not moving "off the shelves".
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Post by PillarBiter on May 23, 2019 6:32:49 GMT
Amazon dropped the price to $29.99US, from $37.77US a couple of weeks ago.
Guess the game is not moving "off the shelves".
Anthem is pulling a bitcoin!
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on May 23, 2019 6:53:55 GMT
And a wise guy once said
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Post by saandrig on May 23, 2019 10:14:33 GMT
Amazon dropped the price to $29.99US, from $37.77US a couple of weeks ago.
Guess the game is not moving "off the shelves".
DAI GOTY edition is at the same price. Just leaving it here for all to ponder how comparable are the two games in price, content...and year of release.
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