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Post by Kappa Neko on May 31, 2019 11:17:19 GMT
My bet is a timed event will lure a lot of players back, maybe even get those who have been on the fence to buy the game now. You lure them back hoping they spend some money on cosmetics (again).
I expect them to repeat the event again in 3 months and/or eventually make it permanent so that people waiting on the "complete" package feel like now is the time to get the game at last.
Timed event is a good idea right now imo to lure those back who have stopped playing. Permanent event does not increase the playerbase right now. In fact, it would probably bring FEWER people back since they might prefer to do something else right now. Urgency ALWAYS works.
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Post by SofaJockey on May 31, 2019 11:46:41 GMT
So the best loot will drop from an activity that is time gated in a period of 6 weeks. Think about what this means - Anthem's endgame being a time gated event... Just let the thought sink in. See any issues? It's a live service, something else will come along in Act 2. I'd be surprised if the Cataclysm isn't back at some point.
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Post by force58 on May 31, 2019 14:15:44 GMT
My bet is a timed event will lure a lot of players back, maybe even get those who have been on the fence to buy the game now. You lure them back hoping they spend some money on cosmetics (again). I expect them to repeat the event again in 3 months and/or eventually make it permanent so that people waiting on the "complete" package feel like now is the time to get the game at last. Timed event is a good idea right now imo to lure those back who have stopped playing. Permanent event does not increase the playerbase right now. In fact, it would probably bring FEWER people back since they might prefer to do something else right now. Urgency ALWAYS works. I hope you're right. I played for a few more hours last night on my trek to level 30. Did 4 more Yarrow missions and a few free roam sessions and between 2 servers I saw 3 people, and 1 was me!! Nobody joined my story missions or free roam. It's seriously a ghost town.
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Post by therevanchist25 on May 31, 2019 14:39:20 GMT
Welp, I think The Cataclysm might be the last straw for me. A Timed Stronghold on a big map, that was their Ace in the hole.....I don't even... What a surprise that this ended up being absolutely nothing like what they originally "promised". We were also told that cataclysms would "shape" the world after they had happened - but none of this is actually happening. Cataclysm before it was shown: Event that would shape the world Hardest content in game Out in the open world Must work together with other players Cataclysm after stream: Omnidirectional stronghold with modifiers and a timer Of all the things we were sold pre-launch, this one just angered me because the content is basically nothing. It's the same kind of content we have already with no real substance. Adding a multiplier and a timer to basic grindy content doesn't improve the game at all for me, and doesn't live up to what we were shown before the game released. Granted what we were shown before release was 100% lies and fabrication, but that lie is the promise you sold Bioware. I'm not the little 14 year old who played WoW for 5 years driven mostly by FOMO. FOMO does not work on me anymore Bioware. Neither does increased Gear Level. What in gods name is the point of making us stronger when you keep nerfing every single enemy until their completely pathetic? I use to love fighting Furies, Ursix and Titans, now they all die in 5 seconds. I swear the only enjoyment I get anymore is the "Super Fury" from Sunken Cell, because it actually requires you to still DO something! Monitor is just a boring HP grind, Swarm Tyrant is a giant walking Weak-Point and Scelos is adequate. And now your even nerfing the damn Dominion Brutes, the last mob that ever gave me any trouble at all...The combat was all that was keeping me going at this point Bioware, and now you've made the game too damn easy. This coming from a guy who plays every game on "Normal/Medium" at most. That alone was driving me nuts, but this? This was your big epic Cataclysm? Standing in a Circle fighting off waves of enemies until a timer goes off?!?!?! MORE OF THE SAME CRAP I DO EVERY DAY!? Oh no wait, it's TOTALLy different because now I have a limited amount of time I can stand in those circles. Such a game changer. For me, the only positives are the removal of Luck, and addition of 3 new Story Missions, but alas, it's only 3 Missions...that'll last me what, 2 hours tops? Then once again I am out of compelling content. I don't even care about freaking Loot anymore, I don't care about Leaderboards, I don't care about Guilds, I don't care about any of that crap. All I wanted was interesting new game mechanics, and a decent sized story update. Instead all I get is a fucking Omnidirectional stronghold with modifiers and timers and 3 missions. My hopes were already set so damn low, and somehow I still end up disappointed.... Bioware there is nothing more I can do or give. I want to love and enjoy this game so badly you have no idea. But I just cannot do this anymore. I truly loved and enjoyed this game at first. Once the story ran out (which took a few days) I went about my business grinding and loving the combat. Then somwhere along the way thanks to all your nerfs, I even stopped loving the combat, the one carrot that I adored about this game. I was truly hoping this update would provide something fresh, something exciting. Instead it's just more of the same, locked behind another god damn loading screen... I seriously think I might cry.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 31, 2019 15:04:08 GMT
Any info how to get into the test server yet? Sorry if this is readable somewhere but I couldnt find... Am looking for this info too. Is it something you have to sign up for or anyone can join when it goes live?
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Post by Thrombin on May 31, 2019 15:10:09 GMT
Any info how to get into the test server yet? Sorry if this is readable somewhere but I couldnt find... Am looking for this info too. Is it something you have to sign up for or anyone can join when it goes live?
Anyone on PC who already owns the game can download a PTS version of the client to their PC and play it. Although the PTS will only be active on certain days in order to concentrate enough people into a single timeslot that there will be enough to enable teaming up.
Not sure where you get to download the PTS client from but I daresay a link will be available once it hits.
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Post by Thrombin on May 31, 2019 15:28:48 GMT
Welp, I think The Cataclysm might be the last straw for me. A Timed Stronghold on a big map, that was their Ace in the hole.....I don't even... What a surprise that this ended up being absolutely nothing like what they originally "promised". We were also told that cataclysms would "shape" the world after they had happened - but none of this is actually happening. Cataclysm before it was shown: Event that would shape the world Hardest content in game Out in the open world Must work together with other players Cataclysm after stream: Omnidirectional stronghold with modifiers and a timer
As far as I can see the cataclysm is going to be exactly what they said:
It will shape the world both physically, in the form of a new map, and through the inversions which will apply different effects to the laws of physics throughout the course of the event.
It is almost certainly going to be the hardest content in the game for those who want a challenge and are trying to get the maximum score on the leaderboards. Why doubt it?
It is definitely in the open world. We saw that quite clearly in the stream, with multiple locations in that open world to explore.
If it is the hardest content in the game it necessarily follows that it will require you to work with other players (just like Strongholds do).
I don't see a single point you listed that it doesn't obviously hit.
Plus we didn't see any actual gameplay so there is zero reason to be dismissing it as "standing in a circle fighting off waves of enemies". Even the tiny bit we saw showed that there were seven pylons that needed to be deactivated (presumably in a similar manner to Sunken Cell). I'm sure every arena will have it's own unique challenges and secrets to discover and the timer adds to the difficulty, why is that a bad thing if you are jaded about how easy things are currently?
Even the nature of the new gear could change the way you play and spec your Javelin. Particularly the melee primer vs detonator slots.
I'm not seeing any reason for all this pessimism!
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on May 31, 2019 15:54:33 GMT
So the best loot will drop from an activity that is time gated in a period of 6 weeks. Think about what this means - Anthem's endgame being a time gated event... Just let the thought sink in. See any issues?
No way this remains as they plan. Would be a monumental screw up in the history of looter shooters. Time gated event for cosmetics? Sure. But for the best endgame gear? What the actual fuck?
I am certain Bioware is very well aware of all this. If not, well... Anyway, I can see it unfolding in several directions. One way is that the event will remain permanent. Other option is to give it a better chance to drop loot and the same type of loot to be applied to all activities, maybe even right after the event, with a smaller drop chance.
But if this remains as currently explained, then I can only see it as a desperate attempt to get back players with the "get it now or never" bait. Which worked wonderfully for other games like...never? But I might be wrong because SWTOR does time limited events (cosmetic/exp rewards only) and Bioware might be seeing a player surge there during the events. But this doesn't apply to Anthem and exclusive endgame gear rewards. If anything it will only annoy the players more. And not to mention it sounds like the rewards will be in a form of a random "loot box". Because that also worked so well for SWTOR, amirite? What do ya mean by SWTOR stuff? It's old news, finished, long time no good... it's Anthem that is the hot multiplayer game of the decade, with more than 6 million players! Bioware did nuffin wrong since ME3... it only has released one perfect game after another since then, with updates that makes them even more illuminating, transcendent and great. Bioware games do worth $100 even 1 year after launch. #Fanboy #ResistHaters #F#ckCDproject/Obsidian/Warframe/Destiny
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Post by SofaJockey on May 31, 2019 15:56:01 GMT
I'd also seen that 'Storm' as a portal you need to enter to get to 'whatever it is' that the Cataclysm is.
And this is just Act One, there's loads of room for how the world may be impacted in the future.
We're not even 100 days in.
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Post by Superhik on May 31, 2019 16:19:17 GMT
I hereby nominate Sofa for " Optimist of the year" award".
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Post by SofaJockey on May 31, 2019 16:25:09 GMT
I hereby nominate Sofa for " Optimist of the year" award". I guess I must be an optimist to be pleased by this nomination.
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Post by Pounce de León on May 31, 2019 16:30:57 GMT
Welp, I think The Cataclysm might be the last straw for me. A Timed Stronghold on a big map, that was their Ace in the hole.....I don't even... What a surprise that this ended up being absolutely nothing like what they originally "promised". We were also told that cataclysms would "shape" the world after they had happened - but none of this is actually happening. Cataclysm before it was shown: Event that would shape the world Hardest content in game Out in the open world Must work together with other players Cataclysm after stream: Omnidirectional stronghold with modifiers and a timer
As far as I can see the cataclysm is going to be exactly what they said:
It will shape the world both physically, in the form of a new map, and through the inversions which will apply different effects to the laws of physics throughout the course of the event.
... That's a bit too much of mental gymnastics for my taste right there. Everthing that isn't alternative skybox and reskinned enemies like they showed before release is a positive though. But branding new map release is now "world-shaping"... lol. They took a bite they couldn't deliver. May that be a lesson, but it seems publishers and devs never learn.
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Post by Steelcan on May 31, 2019 16:31:57 GMT
I'd also seen that 'Storm' as a portal you need to enter to get to 'whatever it is' that the Cataclysm is. And this is just Act One, there's loads of room for how the world may be impacted in the future. We're not even 100 days in. *Remembers when Spartan Ops was declared only one season of an ongoing story*
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Post by therevanchist25 on May 31, 2019 16:37:02 GMT
Welp, I think The Cataclysm might be the last straw for me. A Timed Stronghold on a big map, that was their Ace in the hole.....I don't even... What a surprise that this ended up being absolutely nothing like what they originally "promised". We were also told that cataclysms would "shape" the world after they had happened - but none of this is actually happening. Cataclysm before it was shown: Event that would shape the world Hardest content in game Out in the open world Must work together with other players Cataclysm after stream: Omnidirectional stronghold with modifiers and a timer
As far as I can see the cataclysm is going to be exactly what they said:
It will shape the world both physically, in the form of a new map, and through the inversions which will apply different effects to the laws of physics throughout the course of the event.
It is almost certainly going to be the hardest content in the game for those who want a challenge and are trying to get the maximum score on the leaderboards. Why doubt it?
It is definitely in the open world. We saw that quite clearly in the stream, with multiple locations in that open world to explore.
If it is the hardest content in the game it necessarily follows that it will require you to work with other players (just like Strongholds do).
I don't see a single point you listed that it doesn't obviously hit.
Plus we didn't see any actual gameplay so there is zero reason to be dismissing it as "standing in a circle fighting off waves of enemies". Even the tiny bit we saw showed that there were seven pylons that needed to be deactivated (presumably in a similar manner to Sunken Cell). I'm sure every arena will have it's own unique challenges and secrets to discover and the timer adds to the difficulty, why is that a bad thing if you are jaded about how easy things are currently?
Even the nature of the new gear could change the way you play and spec your Javelin. Particularly the melee primer vs detonator slots.
I'm not seeing any reason for all this pessimism!
I'm sorry but reading that is just the wildest mental gymastics I've ever seen. I envy your ability to twist anything into foolish optimisim and plays on words. I would love to still be that hopeful. Even IF what you say is true, the combat experience is too far gone for me personally to enjoy any longer. It has simply been nerfed too hard. I cannot bring myself to see a Titan die in 5 seconds again, knowing how fun and challangeing they use to be. One of my fondest memories of the game, was the first time I did Matties Legendary Contract, and had to fight 3 Lesser Titans in an Interior Cell. That fight lasted half an hour, and it was exhilarating. Now those 3 titans die in 10 seconds, and I get a pile of worthless Purples for the "trouble". That is not something this update will fix. That is something that will never be fixed, because people can't be bothered to "waste" 30 minutes fighting a Titan. For me those amazing encounters were it's own reward, since the games actual rewards are so lackluster. But now I don't even have that. I now sleep-walk through this game on GM2, because no one plays GM3. Wasting an entire Clip of ammo trying to kill 1 mob is not "challange". Endlessly boosting HP and DMG numbers is not Challange. That is "Lazy Hard".
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Post by therevanchist25 on May 31, 2019 16:40:42 GMT
I'd also seen that 'Storm' as a portal you need to enter to get to 'whatever it is' that the Cataclysm is. And this is just Act One, there's loads of room for how the world may be impacted in the future. We're not even 100 days in. *Remembers when Spartan Ops was declared only one season of an ongoing story*
I too remember the glorious promise of Spartan Ops...
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Post by smilesja on May 31, 2019 16:59:55 GMT
I hereby nominate Sofa for " Optimist of the year" award". I guess I must be an optimist to be pleased by this nomination. Eh Cataclysm looks pretty good so I can see why he’s optimistic.
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Post by papaspud on May 31, 2019 20:18:29 GMT
I have been playing off and on since early access, I have been having some fun with the game leveling up and was hoping that they would right this ship with "something awesome", instead it looks like pretty much the same old same old.... with a timer and leaderboards- for those e-peen players. I see nothing cataclysmic about this content that is going to be 2-3 months late, it was hyped as something that it isn't. I wonder if they even had a clue about what it would be when they put it in the wishmap.
The total lack of content and once you have played for about 20-30 hours you have seen pretty much everything, makes this game have very little fun grinding ... so you can level up, do the same thing over and over, but faster. Also the total lack of people playing is making it so you have to run solo now or be setting in a lobby forever...waiting.....waiting.... I am still playing the "campaign" and there aren't any other players.
Very disappointed with this update/ content/ whatever.
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Post by Terminator Force on May 31, 2019 22:30:35 GMT
These two aren't fans of Anthem, but they have interesting sense of humor therefore enjoyed watching.
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Post by river82 on May 31, 2019 23:11:51 GMT
Looking around the media outlets, youtube, and gaming forums, it seemed like the community as a whole was ... underwhelmed. But we'll see what sort of spike in active players it will provide, I guess.
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Post by therevanchist25 on May 31, 2019 23:44:23 GMT
Looking around the media outlets, youtube, and gaming forums, it seemed like the community as a whole was ... underwhelmed. But we'll see what sort of spike in active players it will provide, I guess. I've no doubt it will provide a spike of some sort. However once the Event ends I suspect the drop off will be even larger, because now players won't have access to the "best" gear anymore. Instead they'll just go back to the regular gear. So the few guys that got lucky and got that new Real Endgame gear will have the best stuff, and everyone who didn't now have no chance of getting that gear until the Event returns in who knows how long. So why would many of those players keep playing the same mundain content knowing it's not gonna drop end game loot?
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jun 1, 2019 0:20:13 GMT
Lmao even the roadmap was changed to worse now, it's finally dead, as it was said eons ago. You go, Bioware!
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Post by mugwump on Jun 1, 2019 8:19:52 GMT
Meh, given that the ability to play this new content is finite, where is the incentive for those of us who have no intention of ponying up for Anthem in it's current state to pick the game up?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 1, 2019 12:46:04 GMT
in it's current state to pick the game up? In its current state? Looks and plays gorgeous, not sure what you've been watching.
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Post by correctamundo on Jun 1, 2019 14:08:18 GMT
So the best loot will drop from an activity that is time gated in a period of 6 weeks. Think about what this means - Anthem's endgame being a time gated event... Just let the thought sink in. See any issues?
No way this remains as they plan. Would be a monumental screw up in the history of looter shooters. Time gated event for cosmetics? Sure. But for the best endgame gear? What the actual fuck?
I am certain Bioware is very well aware of all this. If not, well... Anyway, I can see it unfolding in several directions. One way is that the event will remain permanent. Other option is to give it a better chance to drop loot and the same type of loot to be applied to all activities, maybe even right after the event, with a smaller drop chance.
But if this remains as currently explained, then I can only see it as a desperate attempt to get back players with the "get it now or never" bait. Which worked wonderfully for other games like...never? But I might be wrong because SWTOR does time limited events (cosmetic/exp rewards only) and Bioware might be seeing a player surge there during the events. But this doesn't apply to Anthem and exclusive endgame gear rewards. If anything it will only annoy the players more. And not to mention it sounds like the rewards will be in a form of a random "loot box". Because that also worked so well for SWTOR, amirite? Where did you get the idea that there is some special loot that will only drop during the cataclysm? Ever heard of The Ace of spades?
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Post by force58 on Jun 1, 2019 15:50:03 GMT
I have been playing off and on since early access, I have been having some fun with the game leveling up and was hoping that they would right this ship with "something awesome", instead it looks like pretty much the same old same old.... with a timer and leaderboards- for those e-peen players. I see nothing cataclysmic about this content that is going to be 2-3 months late, it was hyped as something that it isn't. I wonder if they even had a clue about what it would be when they put it in the wishmap. The total lack of content and once you have played for about 20-30 hours you have seen pretty much everything, makes this game have very little fun grinding ... so you can level up, do the same thing over and over, but faster. Also the total lack of people playing is making it so you have to run solo now or be setting in a lobby forever...waiting.....waiting.... I am still playing the "campaign" and there aren't any other players. Very disappointed with this update/ content/ whatever. Well it was the timer and leaderboard that threw me off. Who actually wanted that, especially with the promised Cataclysm?????? It just makes no sense. I guess we can ignore the timer and the leaderboard, but it just seems like wasted programming hours to me. Making us rush to an end is stupid in a game like this as well, especially since the best loot comes with the best time. Sigh...
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