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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 11, 2022 7:21:34 GMT
I am male.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 11, 2022 7:31:46 GMT
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Post by fylimar on Aug 11, 2022 7:56:38 GMT
I always assumed that all companions ( except maybe Aveline) do that. Edit: Sebastian probably not, but he doesn't count
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 11, 2022 12:33:21 GMT
I always assumed that all companions ( except maybe Aveline) do that. Of the characters in our game, I would assume that Aveline, Sebastian, Merrill, Bethany and Carver do not participate, whilst Varric, Isabella, Fenris, Anders and the Mabari do. May be I am wrong about this but the fact that Donnick was invited but Averline was not, suggested to me that it was on the whole the male members of the group and/or those who are a bit more worldly. Hence Isabella being included but not Merrill or Bethany and Aveline probably choosing not to get involved. Meanwhile, I think Varric would leave out Sebastian and Carver deliberately because I never formed the impression that he particularly warmed to them and probably felt they would spoil the mood. In any case, I can't see Sebastian attending even if invited. In his pre-Chantry days, he definitely would, but not once he changed his outlook. Let's face it, Hawke never gets invited; I always thought it a bit much that my dog was invited but not me. (It is possible that the mabari invited itself but turned out to be such a valuable addition that Varric let it continue). Anyway, that is how I see it and would regard any answers, unless anyone strongly objects.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 11, 2022 14:20:15 GMT
I always assumed that all companions ( except maybe Aveline) do that. Of the characters in our game, I would assume that Aveline, Sebastian, Merrill, Bethany and Carver do not participate, whilst Varric, Isabella, Fenris, Anders and the Mabari do. May be I am wrong about this but the fact that Donnick was invited but Averline was not, suggested to me that it was on the whole the male members of the group and/or those who are a bit more worldly. Hence Isabella being included but not Merrill or Bethany and Aveline probably choosing not to get involved. Meanwhile, I think Varric would leave out Sebastian and Carver deliberately because I never formed the impression that he particularly warmed to them and probably felt they would spoil the mood. In any case, I can't see Sebastian attending even if invited. In his pre-Chantry days, he definitely would, but not once he changed his outlook. Let's face it, Hawke never gets invited; I always thought it a bit much that my dog was invited but not me. (It is possible that the mabari invited itself but turned out to be such a valuable addition that Varric let it continue). Anyway, that is how I see it and would regard any answers, unless anyone strongly objects. I had a dialogue between Carver and Varric once, that indicated, that Carver participates. Same with Merrill, so I guess, those two at least participates sometimes.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Aug 11, 2022 16:57:29 GMT
I believe so, yes
Although, I just played DA2 and didnt see anything about drinking/card parties. I may not have spoken to him at the right time.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 11, 2022 17:02:56 GMT
I had a dialogue between Carver and Varric once, that indicated, that Carver participates. Same with Merrill, so I guess, those two at least participates sometimes. My mistake then, as I've never heard either of those conversations but it is rather pot luck with banter. Honestly, the list of characters grow who were invited but not Hawke; it enough for them to start getting a complex about it.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 11, 2022 18:01:59 GMT
I had a dialogue between Carver and Varric once, that indicated, that Carver participates. Same with Merrill, so I guess, those two at least participates sometimes. My mistake then, as I've never heard either of those conversations but it is rather pot luck with banter. Honestly, the list of characters grow who were invited but not Hawke; it enough for them to start getting a complex about it. It's because Varric is always in my party, so I probably heard every banter out there with him
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Post by Catilina on Aug 11, 2022 20:42:53 GMT
I always assumed that all companions ( except maybe Aveline) do that. Of the characters in our game, I would assume that Aveline, Sebastian, Merrill, Bethany and Carver do not participate, whilst Varric, Isabella, Fenris, Anders and the Mabari do. May be I am wrong about this but the fact that Donnick was invited but Averline was not, suggested to me that it was on the whole the male members of the group and/or those who are a bit more worldly. Hence Isabella being included but not Merrill or Bethany and Aveline probably choosing not to get involved. Meanwhile, I think Varric would leave out Sebastian and Carver deliberately because I never formed the impression that he particularly warmed to them and probably felt they would spoil the mood. In any case, I can't see Sebastian attending even if invited. In his pre-Chantry days, he definitely would, but not once he changed his outlook. Let's face it, Hawke never gets invited; I always thought it a bit much that my dog was invited but not me. (It is possible that the mabari invited itself but turned out to be such a valuable addition that Varric let it continue). Anyway, that is how I see it and would regard any answers, unless anyone strongly objects. I think, Carver yes, Bethany rarely. Aveline maybe reluctantly but sometimes also there. I'm sure, Merrill there as well – if not always. She is alone, and Isabela helps to her. Maybe if Isabela runs away, Merrill is less active here? Hawke's mabari sure! Sebastian most likely not.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 12, 2022 9:17:20 GMT
It's because Varric is always in my party, so I probably heard every banter out there with him Varric is generally in my party but not necessarily the other two and there also seems to he some sort of hierarchy over whose banter triggers first (this was also the case in DAI) so there is no guarantee a particular piece of banter will trigger even if they are there at the same time. It is why I took to strolling around Kirkwall during the day with different combinations, just to get the banter but even this does not seem fool proof and you were obviously luckier than me about this. Ah well, it seems my question might not be as informative as I thought it would. Never mind. That's what you get for being a smart arse and trying to be innovative with my questions.
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Post by pelassarias on Aug 12, 2022 17:26:46 GMT
Ah, it's good to see that no one died overnight, especially the mabari. Nice save, Anders! I do! fylimar and OG, similiar question. Would you say you are savvy or good at drinking and card games?
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N6
All the things.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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Post by seven on Aug 13, 2022 0:23:17 GMT
Same question to gerva and seven: male, female? Man
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Aug 13, 2022 3:28:41 GMT
We're off to a good start. So who is going to be sacrificed during this round?
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Aug 13, 2022 5:26:03 GMT
fylimar and OG, similiar question. Would you say you are savvy or good at drinking and card games? Not at all.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 13, 2022 8:03:27 GMT
We're off to a good start. So who is going to be sacrificed during this round? Shouldn't we wait until everyone has answered a question? I don't believe Legbamel has answered your question yet and Fylimar needs to answer the one from Pela. I know people can lie, especially if they are a spy, but it is helpful to have at least some information to go on.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 13, 2022 11:05:44 GMT
Ah, it's good to see that no one died overnight, especially the mabari. Nice save, Anders! I do! fylimar and OG, similiar question. Would you say you are savvy or good at drinking and card games? Ehm - what?
I participate, if that is, don't know, if I'm good
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Walkin' shoes walkin' back into BSN.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem
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XBL Gamertag: Legbamel
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Post by legbamel on Aug 15, 2022 11:16:22 GMT
Leg and Cati; Are you a female? Female
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Aug 16, 2022 2:54:38 GMT
What is everyone thinking? What is there to think, even? So since Anders saved the mabari, there's one person who knows of another player's innocence. I don't want to vote for any males for that reason. That being said, I'm also torn for voting females because as a female myself, I could possibly catch a Crow in a lie if they attempt to hint at my role. Even then, a hero could be trying to throw off the spies by lying about their gender. For now I will wait to hear what other people think, even though there isn't much to go off of.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 16, 2022 8:19:18 GMT
Even then, a hero could be trying to throw off the spies by lying about their gender. At this stage there are enough different possibilities for your identity that it hardly seems valid for a hero to lie. Next round, as the options narrow down, it might be thought expedient. However, a spy has to lie from the outset and this can catch them out in later rounds when it becomes apparent that two people appear to be profiling the same role. For now, the early answers simply allow me, at least, to narrow down the possibilities and see where there might be some duplication by players. With 9 players, I'm assuming there are 2 spies. That leaves 7 roles out of 10 in play. Here are my thoughts: The spies know the identity of the Mabari. Anders knows the identity of the Mabari. Only Dadi and Legbamel are definitely female, so cannot be Anders. OG's answer to Pela's question, given the discussion we had just had about attendees, seemed to very strongly hint at one particular character, that you wouldn't want to vote off, but there are other possibilities depending on whether you think they are "savvy or good at drinking or card games". As Pela admitted, her question was similar to mine but not the same. So they could be attending the parties but not very good at playing or drinking. That would bring in Merrill, Bethany and, depending how you like to view her, Aveline. It also brings in the Mabari, who wags their tail when they have a good hand, and Anders, who according to Varric is worse than the Mabari, likely being sabotaged by Justice who doesn't understand the concept of card games, and doesn't get to enjoy drinking anymore either for the same reason. Fylimar, on the basis of the above reasoning and her answer, is probably either one of those female characters, Carver or a spy. I don't know if the above is helpful or not but it is all I have to go on for the present.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 16, 2022 12:30:47 GMT
Even then, a hero could be trying to throw off the spies by lying about their gender. At this stage there are enough different possibilities for your identity that it hardly seems valid for a hero to lie. Next round, as the options narrow down, it might be thought expedient. However, a spy has to lie from the outset and this can catch them out in later rounds when it becomes apparent that two people appear to be profiling the same role. For now, the early answers simply allow me, at least, to narrow down the possibilities and see where there might be some duplication by players. With 9 players, I'm assuming there are 2 spies. That leaves 7 roles out of 10 in play. Here are my thoughts: The spies know the identity of the Mabari. Anders knows the identity of the Mabari. Only Dadi and Legbamel are definitely female, so cannot be Anders. OG's answer to Pela's question, given the discussion we had just had about attendees, seemed to very strongly hint at one particular character, that you wouldn't want to vote off, but there are other possibilities depending on whether you think they are "savvy or good at drinking or card games". As Pela admitted, her question was similar to mine but not the same. So they could be attending the parties but not very good at playing or drinking. That would bring in Merrill, Bethany and, depending how you like to view her, Aveline. It also brings in the Mabari, who wags their tail when they have a good hand, and Anders, who according to Varric is worse than the Mabari, likely being sabotaged by Justice who doesn't understand the concept of card games, and doesn't get to enjoy drinking anymore either for the same reason. Fylimar, on the basis of the above reasoning and her answer, is probably either one of those female characters, Carver or a spy. I don't know if the above is helpful or not but it is all I have to go on for the present. I'm pretty sure that Crow spies are not allowed at Varrics card table. Since I answered, that I participate, I can't be a spy. I don't know, if my character is good in the game, but they do participate ( I choose to answer that, since I couldn't really answer pelas question).
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 16, 2022 13:32:46 GMT
I'm pretty sure that Crow spies are not allowed at Varrics card table. Since I answered, that I participate, I can't be a spy. Not necessarily because whatever they say, a spy is lying, and I think they would be more likely to say they did attend rather than they didn't, because that covers more roles, particularly since you pointed out that I had assumed wrongly about some characters. Anyway, I wasn't meaning anything more in saying that you could be X or Y or a spy, than I would for anyone else. So those claiming to be female could be Merrill, Isabella, Aveline, Bethany or a spy.
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Post by pelassarias on Aug 16, 2022 21:33:01 GMT
Yeah, I agree with dadi about feeling a bit less inclined in voting for the male claims considering the possibility of endangering Anders and/or Varric too early in the game. Of course though, one of the spies will probably make a male claim if asked, so that's another thing to keep in mind.
And if I also counted correctly, there are fewer female roles in this game than the male roles. And if nearly all or if all of the female roles are in this game, than that means that the spies will have a lot less room to claim here. So something to keep track of as the game goes on as well.
It's good though that we at least have an innocent player (Anders) who already has trust on another innocent (Mabari). If Varric is also in game, than we more than likely have another innocent who has trust in another (it's possible that this could also be the Mabari). And since no one has strongly suggested that someone is a spy during this round, then I am assuming that if Varric is in game, they probably didn't find a spy last night.
As for my question, some characters do come to mind when I think of good or savvy card/drinking players within the roster of DA2. And some other characters also come to mind that are not that great at those games. And of course, there are also characters that fall in the middle or that some probably wouldn't be sure about their character's overall skill. So the answers fylimar and OG provided did give me some information to go on. Other than that, it's still the first round so no outright suspicions have materialized just yet.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Aug 16, 2022 22:30:36 GMT
Well, shall I start the tiebreaker? I will vote for Space because their answer to the question pointed at them wasn't definite (although I can't blame them for not knowing how to answer it.) Not saying that Space is guilty, just... don't know anything at this point.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Aug 17, 2022 2:07:00 GMT
Well, shall I start the tiebreaker? I will vote for Space because their answer to the question pointed at them wasn't definite (although I can't blame them for not knowing how to answer it.) Not saying that Space is guilty, just... don't know anything at this point. Ok. Boomerang vote back to Dadi
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 17, 2022 11:05:09 GMT
Okay, I'm going to vote for the only other definite female character, Legbamel, since that could be Bethany, who can't be voted off during the first two rounds, so not in any danger. Admittedly there is no guarantee she is even in the game but it seems a better gamble to take than possibly hitting Anders or the Mabari. Alternatively, Legbamel could be Merrill, who can check me out with the GM. I hope you appreciate my logic, Legbamel, and act accordingly, unless, of course, you are a spy in which case you won't appreciate it at all!
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