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Post by dadithinkimgay on Oct 10, 2019 23:30:14 GMT
But you don’t need to know if Heimdall is Calix in order for Heimdall to make a difference, and since the doppelgänger needs as much info as they can obtain at the moment, it just seemed suspicious to me.
Also, if Hero is the matchmaker, and you’re a hero as you say, and Moonae is a human (the doppelgänger is a spirit), then that’d make Heimdall the spy.
Heimdall has all but claimed a role that’s 100% in play. I don’t know Pela. 👀
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 11, 2019 17:07:05 GMT
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Post by Heimdall on Oct 11, 2019 17:09:34 GMT
Pela, where are you from?
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Oct 11, 2019 18:48:16 GMT
Also, Hero is the Matchmaker. Nope Pela aka 1# Dread Wolf Agent
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Post by pelassarias on Oct 14, 2019 16:28:03 GMT
Pela, where are you from? I'm from Orlais! (Also sorry for the very late response! Been a bit busy lately.)
ETA: Also, dad, still not getting why asking for Heimdall's role is suspicious. If Heimdall is Calix and activates their ability, I don't think the doppelganger can override their ability.(But if they actually can, whoever's ability gets activated over the other might be decided in some sort of coin toss, I suspect)
Plus, at this point, it's highly unlikely for me to be who you're suspecting I am anyhow. And if Moonae is, she's AWOL. So there was little risk in asking Heimdall my question, and I knew that before I asked him that question.
Also they could both be the last spy. So I've also asked both of them questions this round to check for evasiveness/inconsistencies/possible lies.
And considering all the hints each player has hinted, that is all under the assumption that everyone is telling the truth, which I'm doubting right now.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 14, 2019 17:17:10 GMT
Voting update:
Hero 1 Pela 1
Still to vote: Basia; Heimdall; (Moon)*
*I am still hopeful that Moon may return before voting closes but if not I shall make a decision then about her vote.
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Post by Heimdall on Oct 15, 2019 14:51:44 GMT
I’ll be casting a vote for Hero
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Oct 15, 2019 15:52:58 GMT
Okay, I was trying to beat around the bush, but screw it lol.
So, obviously Argent is currently in play if a previous narrative is to be believed. The matchmaker is obviously in play as well. Basia is Luca, so that means Argent and the Matchmaker has to be either Pela, Heimdall, Hero, or Moon.
Moonae and Heimdall are not the Matchmaker. Heimdall has hinted at being Argent this whole game, and continued to do so after the role was revealed to be in play. Moonae is a human, so she can't be the doppelgänger. She's likely Tamar, as all hints provided has pointed toward that role.
That leaves the matchmaker to be either Pela or Hero. Pela, if you're saying that Hero is the matchmaker then... that only leaves you to be the doppelgänger.
Two scenarios, if this is not the case:
1. Heimdall is lying. If he is, and if Pela is right on Hero being the matchmaker, then Pela is Argent. If Heimdall has outright claimed Pela's role, then naturally, Pela would have outright claimed Heimdall as a spy. She hasn't yet, which is why I don't think this is the scenario. Now, an explanation for this could be that Pela is trying to hide her role as Argent and not outright claim Heimdall as lying. However, her hints point toward Argent, so there'd really be no reason to do so.
2. Hero is not the matchmaker, Pela is. Unless Pela was trying to self-sabotage the heroes, this scenario doesn't make sense...
Which is why I'm thrown back to scenario one, a scenario that is also hard to believe, because this game would have been settled rather quickly if that were the case. That being said, Pela is likely the doppelgänger.
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Post by fylimar on Oct 15, 2019 18:03:14 GMT
I have to agree with dadi (btw: your avatar is not visible anymore - at least to me), I think, pela might be the doppelgänger. Maybe Heimdall should rethink his vote?
Edit: I see dadis avatar again
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Oct 15, 2019 18:35:05 GMT
Oh no! Can anyone else see? Lol. Edit: Okay good lol.
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Post by fylimar on Oct 15, 2019 18:35:39 GMT
I just edited my post, I can see your avatar again
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 15, 2019 18:59:42 GMT
I just thought I should let everyone know that I have sent a reminder to Basia to vote even if she hasn't the time to get involved in the discussion. I have given her to the weekend to respond after which I shall have to make a decision about her vote along with Moon's. It is rather unfortunate that two people have gone missing now but I hope it is just a busy time IRL and nothing serious.
Current state of the voting:
Hero 2 Pela 1
Voting will close on Saturday morning, 8 am BST.
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Post by basia on Oct 15, 2019 19:05:43 GMT
Sorry for not voting sooner. I'm going to vote for Hero
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 15, 2019 19:16:52 GMT
Thank you, Basia.
Okay, whilst Moon is absent, I do know from discussion with her before she went missing what she might do at this point. So l declare on her behalf that she would not vote for Hero but instead would vote for Pelassarias.
Current state of the voting:
Hero 3 Pela 2
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Oct 15, 2019 19:32:39 GMT
Gervaise, does the game end when there's only 3 players left, no matter how many spies there are? Not sure if that's how it works. And thank you for answering the many questions I have.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 15, 2019 19:43:14 GMT
Gervaise, does the game end when there's only 3 players left, no matter how many spies there are? Not sure if that's how it works. And thank you for answering the many questions I have. Not necessarily. A single spy could convince a hero to vote for the other hero.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Oct 15, 2019 20:22:50 GMT
OMG. I just realized if Hero is voted out it's literally a done deal: There'll be only Moonae, Pela, Basia, and Heimdall come next night. The doppelgänger will inevitably use Argent's power along with their given nightly target. That'll leave just the spy and one other player. Done. Guys, if you vote out Hero this round, the game will essentially be over. And which "hero" suggested the heroes go for Hero? Ahem.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 15, 2019 20:50:17 GMT
That'll leave just the spy and one other player. Done. With that eventuality there would be a tie-breaker.
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Post by fylimar on Oct 15, 2019 21:11:46 GMT
I, too, advice to not vote hero out. Maybe Heimdall and basia would reconsider?
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Post by Heimdall on Oct 15, 2019 22:05:25 GMT
What you’re saying makes sense.
Okay, I switch my vote to Pela
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Post by pelassarias on Oct 16, 2019 4:18:50 GMT
I'm not the last spy guys. I'm not under the love spell. At this point, in my POV, the last spy HAS to be under the spell. I suppose in you guys' POV the last spy has a two thirds chance of being under the spell, which is still highly likely. But that fact that the Matchmaker (Hero) has not heavily hinted that they're the Matchmaker during this round further points to one of the lovers being the spy. Why else would the Matchmaker lie about their hints during this round? At this point they have to at least believe that one of the lovers is the spy. And this why I'm advising you guys to vote out the Matchmaker since the Heroes do not have enough majority votes to vote off the spy. I'm not the Matchmaker either. I've also been pretty darn consistent on who I've been hinting as. Also, in Heroe's POV, the last spy HAS to be under the love spell as well, considering that it's known to him that the Matchmaker is in play and basia is a Hero. Yet he said that he believes that I'm the agent instead, a player who isn't under the spell. You guys truly don't find that odd?
So if you vote me off, it's game over considering the Matchmaker and the last spy will still be alive during the next day. And I suggest the dead to go back and read Heroe's and my hints since it seems you guys have missed what we've both been hinting as. And because of Heroes major hint in the beginning and who I am, I don't believe Heimdall is what dad thinks he is. And lastly, it's truly a bummer that Moonae is AWOL as well, since she might actually be innocent. So if she is innocent and continues to be AWOL, then that means I'm doomed. Hopefully Heimdall is innocent instead and might reconsider, although at this point I doubt he's what I thought he could be in the beginning and I know he is not who dad thinks he is.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Oct 16, 2019 14:38:28 GMT
The one thing that's stopping me from believing that Heimdall is a spy is that he was the deciding vote against Cillian, literally putting both Space (a spy) and Romice (Cillian) in a tie-breaker before Moonae broke it.
At that point, the spies were in a difficult position with Dragon already gone, why would Heimdall place his cohorts on the block? Moonae also voted for Space that round until she had to switch due to the spell.
I still don't understand why you're beating around the bush with Heimdall - he has literally claimed the role you are also claiming. If you're who you say you are, then why not outright say Heimdall is a spy?
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 16, 2019 17:01:52 GMT
Okay, I switch my vote to PelaNeed the correct format for this: From X to Y or it doesn't count.
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Oct 16, 2019 17:05:34 GMT
Obviously NOT Matchmaker (Hero) Fixed
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