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Post by secretrare on Jan 13, 2017 9:52:14 GMT
Fem city elf.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 21:19:12 GMT
Although Male Cousland is my canon I think dwarven noble origin the best one
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Post by Rhidor on Jan 16, 2017 20:50:29 GMT
I played all Origins and at least for me all of them are "canon" in their own right, my favorite and first imported will be the first one I ever played - the Dalish elf origin as a female warden.
Sadly one of the few origins where you don't return home, but the scene with Tamlen near the end was great, and the clan/eluvian have a lot more story in the DLC and sequel.
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Post by Pokemario on Jan 17, 2017 14:27:51 GMT
In my main save file my Warden is a female Dalish Elf who romances Alistair, but I do think that the most "canon" origin is a Male Dalish Elf who romances Morrigan.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jan 20, 2017 6:06:22 GMT
The latter worldstate is the default of BioWare. Yeah I know. It's interesting, because that was also my very first playthrough, long before I ever knew what Bioware considered their canon. Default is not canon. Default is just the simplest world state for new players.
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Post by secretrare on Jan 21, 2017 21:12:54 GMT
Yeah I know. It's interesting, because that was also my very first playthrough, long before I ever knew what Bioware considered their canon. Default is not canon. Default is just the simplest world state for new players. The default is the canon world of the company that made DA,the player can make divergent choices but that doesn't change the fact that BioWare has decided that world as their canon.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Jan 22, 2017 4:55:56 GMT
Default is not canon. Default is just the simplest world state for new players. The default is the canon world of the company that made DA,the player can make divergent choices but that doesn't change the fact that BioWare has decided that world as their canon. Sorry, not true. On his old blog, David Gaider stated what I just said.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 27, 2017 16:46:47 GMT
Hearing this gossip in DAI just solidifies my preference for a dwarven Warden.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 0:01:08 GMT
I keep changing my origins canon (my canon is female amell most likely) but one thing never changes, I gotta romance Leliana she is like Liara of DA universe and I'm in love with her
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Post by adrianbc on Feb 2, 2017 9:38:40 GMT
The Human Noble origin is the one I played the most when I wanted a Warden heavily connected with DA:O events. I prefer obviously a male Cousland, played as a rogue. This way, I feel many quests having a personal angle - the alliance between Loghain and Hawke, relationship with Teagan and Eamon (as between nobles), the entire Landsmeet quest-line which was written with a Cousland protagonist in mind. Orzamar makes also more sense for a human noble who understands tradition and nobility. When I want to play the perfect neutral outsider my choice is a Dalish male rogue. It was my very first protagonist for DA:O, and works perfectly for a first play-through. Mahariel knows nothing about Ferelden and Orzamar - about their culture, traditions, religions. So asking around stupid questions is normal, and expected from an outsider. Not being involved in any political or social struggle in Both Ferelden and Orzamar, and nothing personal to lose since his clan is already far away, Mahariel has the widest freedom of action for every decision. And since the Dalish origin starts with darkspawn and an Eluvian, it`s quite a good introduction to the game. Only a noble dwarf has also contact with darkspawn. I played every origin at least once. These two are my favorites, followed by the noble dwarf (for her/his political knowledge). Right now I`m playing a Dalish again.
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Post by Amirit on Feb 4, 2017 23:57:31 GMT
Tough call: my favorite origin is Amell female, but the one I think DAO was written for (and thus - a canon for me) is male Cusland. (Though I love female Cusland just a touch less then Amell). Have to also mention Dwaren-noble - the only one truly believable in terms of our Warden's behavior and position. DN is the only experienced in everything we needed: political games, leadership, military actions, therefore truly able to command more senior warriors around and talk to anyone as superior or at least equal. The rest is interesting, but too unbelievable to me.
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Post by Lazarillo on Feb 5, 2017 3:27:35 GMT
My canon that I keep falling back on is my female Dalish Rogue. Kind in heart, but ruthless in action, she did whatever she could to stop the Blight, but still tried to save as many as she could, and cared deeply for her friends. Romanced Alistair but got dumped by him when she saw the benefit recruiting Loghain could bring to the Wardens' battle. Started out friends with Morrigan, but felt betrayed by the very concept of the Dark Ritual (Use mysterious ancient magics to preserve the Archdemon, in any form!? That goes against everything the Wardens stand for!). At least her best bro Oghren stayed by her side (and as far as my headcanons are concerned, is still bashing skulls at her back).
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Feb 6, 2017 22:12:28 GMT
My canon that I keep falling back on is my female Dalish Rogue. Kind in heart, but ruthless in action, she did whatever she could to stop the Blight, but still tried to save as many as she could, and cared deeply for her friends. Romanced Alistair but got dumped by him when she saw the benefit recruiting Loghain could bring to the Wardens' battle. Started out friends with Morrigan, but felt betrayed by the very concept of the Dark Ritual (Use mysterious ancient magics to preserve the Archdemon, in any form!? That goes against everything the Wardens stand for!). At least her best bro Oghren stayed by her side (and as far as my headcanons are concerned, is still bashing skulls at her back). Yea I agree I also believed that Loghain could have been an useful GW and I don't really understand what was the problem of Alistair since he said nothing against me when I recruited people like Sten. Also in DAO I saw no value in preserving an old god in any form no matter what was the Origin(especially for my elven Wardens)this world-threats are better locked underground or killed.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Feb 6, 2017 22:16:59 GMT
The default is the canon world of the company that made DA,the player can make divergent choices but that doesn't change the fact that BioWare has decided that world as their canon. Sorry, not true. On his old blog, David Gaider stated what I just said. David Gaider may have paraphrased it differently,in the end it doesn't matter you can see it by yourself,most choices lead to the same outcomes of their default world-state.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 6, 2017 22:19:21 GMT
My canon that I keep falling back on is my female Dalish Rogue. Kind in heart, but ruthless in action, she did whatever she could to stop the Blight, but still tried to save as many as she could, and cared deeply for her friends. Romanced Alistair but got dumped by him when she saw the benefit recruiting Loghain could bring to the Wardens' battle. Started out friends with Morrigan, but felt betrayed by the very concept of the Dark Ritual (Use mysterious ancient magics to preserve the Archdemon, in any form!? That goes against everything the Wardens stand for!). At least her best bro Oghren stayed by her side (and as far as my headcanons are concerned, is still bashing skulls at her back). Yea I agree I also believed that Loghain could have been an useful GW and I don't really understand what was the problem of Alistair since he said nothing against me when I recruited people like Sten. Also in DAO I saw no value in preserving an old god in any form no matter what was the Origin(especially for my elven Wardens)this world-threats are better locked underground or killed. Alistair felt that Loghain killed the man, who was his real father: Duncan, and betrayed and killed/pursued Grey Wardens. He felt Grey Wardens as his real family. Sten did nothing against Grey Wardens. Sten was only a simple murderer. (Honestly: Loghain's sins much more serious, than Sten's sin... – at least according me – but in my eyes the people with political power always have more responsibility, and their sins always bigger.)
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Feb 6, 2017 22:26:54 GMT
Yea I agree I also believed that Loghain could have been an useful GW and I don't really understand what was the problem of Alistair since he said nothing against me when I recruited people like Sten. Also in DAO I saw no value in preserving an old god in any form no matter what was the Origin(especially for my elven Wardens)this world-threats are better locked underground or killed. Alistair felt that Loghain killed the man, who was his real father: Duncan, and betrayed and killed/pursued Grey Wardens. He felt Grey Wardens as his real family. Sten did nothing against Grey Wardens. Sten was only a simle murderer. Well to bad for his assumptions because Loghain did not killed Duncan a darkspawn did it and just as him even Zevran tried to kill the Grey wardens but Alistair did not abandoned the party because I recruited him.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 6, 2017 22:31:40 GMT
Alistair felt that Loghain killed the man, who was his real father: Duncan, and betrayed and killed/pursued Grey Wardens. He felt Grey Wardens as his real family. Sten did nothing against Grey Wardens. Sten was only a simle murderer. Well to bad for his assumptions because Loghain did not killed Duncan a darkspawn did it and just as him even Zevran tried to kill the Grey wardens but Alistair did not abandoned the party because I recruited him. He smashed Grey Wardens, tried to kill the Warden by Zevran's knife, poisoned Eamon earl (he also was close to Alistair) by Jowan's hand, he a politician, he sell his men (elves) – abuse of power is the biggest sin. Zevran was a simple assassin. The instigator was Loghain.
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Post by mousestalker on Feb 6, 2017 23:43:53 GMT
The only cannon origin would be Qunari, and that isn't in the game...
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Post by flyingovertrout on Feb 7, 2017 1:33:55 GMT
Sorry, not true. On his old blog, David Gaider stated what I just said. David Gaider may have paraphrased it differently,in the end it doesn't matter you can see it by yourself,most choices lead to the same outcomes of their default world-state. Not really sure what you're saying. If you're saying there's a canon origin or playthrough--again, there isn't. I don't expect anyone to just take my word for it (the blog got deleted so can't immediately find the quote), but I also don't know how many different ways I can put it. Default =/= canon. Default is simply a world state for newcomers. If you have something from Bioware saying something different, please post it. Otherwise, take it up with them, or feel free to believe what you want. But right now I'm just repeating myself.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Feb 7, 2017 3:20:17 GMT
David Gaider may have paraphrased it differently,in the end it doesn't matter you can see it by yourself,most choices lead to the same outcomes of their default world-state. Not really sure what you're saying. If you're saying there's a canon origin or playthrough--again, there isn't. I don't expect anyone to just take my word for it (the blog got deleted so can't immediately find the quote), but I also don't know how many different ways I can put it. Default =/= canon. Default is simply a world state for newcomers. If you have something from Bioware saying something different, please post it. Otherwise, take it up with them, or feel free to believe what you want. But right now I'm just repeating myself. . OK maybe I wasn't clear enough. It doesn't matter which world-state you will create,BioWare will always support first and foremost their own world. Example:You decided to build a world in which Oghren was killed in DAO,it doesn't matter because he is alive in their world so they canonically resurrected him for everyone regardless of what they choose in their world. There are many examples like that. This is way their world isn't just a mere default for newcomers regardless of what you or Gaider said,the team of the DA keep(which Gaider was never part of)work in this way,they canonize some choices they nullify others: -You kill Justice or Anders in DAA it doesn't matter because in their canon(which was what you defined just as a mere default)he is Alive and part of DA2 no matter what for everyone. -Leliana is the same thing -Isabela the same thing -Justice the same thing -Sten the same thing -If the warden is alive it doesn't matter because their is dead so they completly removed everyone warden by relegating them to a cheap codex. -DR?Doesn't matter because is not part of their world so they nullified it without problems. All this is to say that their world is the one with whom they develop their story first and foremost therefore it cannot be defined as a default because it influnce all the players regardless of how they play.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Feb 7, 2017 3:22:59 GMT
Well to bad for his assumptions because Loghain did not killed Duncan a darkspawn did it and just as him even Zevran tried to kill the Grey wardens but Alistair did not abandoned the party because I recruited him. He smashed Grey Wardens, tried to kill the Warden by Zevran's knife, poisoned Eamon earl (he also was close to Alistair) by Jowan's hand, he a politician, he sell his men (elves) – abuse of power is the biggest sin. Zevran was a simple assassin. The instigator was Loghain. Ok..... but it doesn't matter at all since you didn't adressed my argument,all that you did was strawmanning the point i made in response to you which was: Zevran attempted to kill the party as well therefore it follows by such logic that Alistair should have left when I recruited him if this was the reason for his desertion. And if this wasn't the sole reason as for why he left the warden as you seem to imply by pointing out all those unrelated arguments to the previous discussion then allow me to say that I could create a warden that is by far much worse than Loghain (The game allows it) and that unlike Loghain will commit evil deeds just for the sake of being evil(I can murder all the elves without mercy and for fun,I can murder Eamon's family and sell Connor to the demon and commit many evil deeds all across the game just for fun,even insult Duncan's memory right in front of Alistair and so on and so forth)and despite that Alistair will still follow me without problems like an obidient dog,so now why the desertion only if and only if I recruited Loghain?. Your or his grudge towards Loghain doesn't make your or his reasonings consistent in any way since by that logic he should had deserted this evil warden or even had the desire to kill this warden long before the Landsmeet but he does not. By the way which GW Loghain "smashed"? He fails to " smash those of the main party" and those at Ostagar were "smashed" by Duncan.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Feb 7, 2017 5:42:57 GMT
Not really sure what you're saying. If you're saying there's a canon origin or playthrough--again, there isn't. I don't expect anyone to just take my word for it (the blog got deleted so can't immediately find the quote), but I also don't know how many different ways I can put it. Default =/= canon. Default is simply a world state for newcomers. If you have something from Bioware saying something different, please post it. Otherwise, take it up with them, or feel free to believe what you want. But right now I'm just repeating myself. . OK maybe I wasn't clear enough. It doesn't matter which world-state you will create,BioWare will always support first and foremost their own world. Example:You decided to build a world in which Oghren was killed in DAO,it doesn't matter because he is alive in their world so they canonically resurrected him for everyone regardless of what they choose in their world. There are many examples like that. This is way their world isn't just a mere default for newcomers regardless of what you or Gaider said,the team of the DA keep(which Gaider was never part of)work in this way,they canonize some choices they nullify others: -You kill Justice or Anders in DAA it doesn't matter because in their canon(which was what you defined just as a mere default)he is Alive and part of DA2 no matter what for everyone. -Leliana is the same thing -Isabela the same thing -Justice the same thing -Sten the same thing -If the warden is alive it doesn't matter because their is dead so they completly removed everyone warden by relegating them to a cheap codex. -DR?Doesn't matter because is not part of their world so they nullified it without problems. All this is to say that their world is the one with whom they develop their story first and foremost therefore it cannot be defined as a default because it influnce all the players regardless of how they play. I am so done with this conversation. This particular discussion chain was about the misconception that default states are canon/Bioware's "preferences." There is literally a correct answer to this, via Word of God. Please stop trying to argue with me over this. The answer will be the same every time. the-gaider-archives.tumblr.com/post/109508780813/in-the-raptr-qna-mark-darrah-said-that-he-thinks
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Feb 7, 2017 19:30:25 GMT
. OK maybe I wasn't clear enough. It doesn't matter which world-state you will create,BioWare will always support first and foremost their own world. Example:You decided to build a world in which Oghren was killed in DAO,it doesn't matter because he is alive in their world so they canonically resurrected him for everyone regardless of what they choose in their world. There are many examples like that. This is way their world isn't just a mere default for newcomers regardless of what you or Gaider said,the team of the DA keep(which Gaider was never part of)work in this way,they canonize some choices they nullify others: -You kill Justice or Anders in DAA it doesn't matter because in their canon(which was what you defined just as a mere default)he is Alive and part of DA2 no matter what for everyone. -Leliana is the same thing -Isabela the same thing -Justice the same thing -Sten the same thing -If the warden is alive it doesn't matter because their is dead so they completly removed everyone warden by relegating them to a cheap codex. -DR?Doesn't matter because is not part of their world so they nullified it without problems. All this is to say that their world is the one with whom they develop their story first and foremost therefore it cannot be defined as a default because it influnce all the players regardless of how they play. I am so done with this conversation. This particular discussion chain was about the misconception that default states are canon/Bioware's "preferences." There is literally a correct answer to this, via Word of God. Please stop trying to argue with me over this. The answer will be the same every time. the-gaider-archives.tumblr.com/post/109508780813/in-the-raptr-qna-mark-darrah-said-that-he-thinksThe misconception is yours not mine. I've presented to you facts that are present within the games itself and not just mere quotes and words,and it doesn't matter that you defined the word of Gaider or of Mark as the word of Gods as they are not Gods and they can be wrong just like anyone else,Mark particularly was just fooling players as he is well aware of the limitations in production with AAA development. They can't create multiple branches for a single game they don't have the resources for that,the only choices that were fully developed and respected in DAI were those of their default world that is more canon than anything else. Proof and facts that support my argument: -An OGB if it exist is destroyed by the plot because it is not part of their canon world and they will never develop anything for that plot. -If a player create a worldstate in which Anders was killed or did not meet Justice in DAA he will always be in DAII to move forward the story no matter what. -You Kill Leliana?It doesn't matter because their world say that she is alive so she is resurrected even in yours. -You leave Sten to die?It doesn't matter becase that's not what happen in hte Bioware's world so he will always survive to become Arishock even if you helped the ex Arishock in DAII.
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Post by talyn82 on Feb 18, 2017 2:54:40 GMT
I like all of them. The two I do most of the time are the Cousland and mage Origins. So my pick is Cousland. I do like the city and Dalish elf origins. I also enjoy the Cadash and Noble Dwarf Origins. But my first and all time favorite is the Cousland origin. I really felt for the character when his father was dying, and when the mother chose to stay behind.
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Post by Iddy on Feb 22, 2017 18:47:08 GMT
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Poor dorfs.
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