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Post by Phantom on May 4, 2020 6:34:45 GMT
Well My understanding of their intentions with the Reaper is that they wanted the Reapers to be Eldritch Abominations. Keep in mind that Dead Reaper quest in ME2 is a reference to the Great Dreamer Cthulu. Even dead gods still dream But at least with this, you could reconcile it with the idea that this is a mostly intact reaper with an active core. But when so much as a hunk of a bulkhead starts singing in people’s brains, it gets kind of weird. Well When is it not weird with an Eldritch Abomination? If it is weird to weirder to flat out bizarre, the closer of an idea of an Eldritch Abomination we can understand.
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Post by Hrulj on May 17, 2020 15:12:32 GMT
If a trilogy reboot is to be done then I'd want Reapers back in Game 1 and only Game 1, a great cosmic threat that establishes the main character as a hero and gives us reasons for his importance in later game. The subsequent games, well, I'd rather have them about exploring the dormant relays in Milky Way, and preferably involving space battles, colonialism and ability to either help or exterminate-subjugate the natives.
All of this won't matter however if Bioware doesn't cut out the toxic SJW mentality they've been forcing onto people and into their games when it makes no sense.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 17, 2020 15:50:00 GMT
All of this won't matter however if Bioware doesn't cut out the toxic SJW mentality they've been forcing onto people and into their games when it makes no sense. And what exactly is that ? Equal gender representation ? Transgender inclusivity ? The horror.
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Post by Hrulj on May 17, 2020 16:30:32 GMT
All of this won't matter however if Bioware doesn't cut out the toxic SJW mentality they've been forcing onto people and into their games when it makes no sense. And what exactly is that ? Equal gender representation ? Transgender inclusivity ? The horror. It's 2183. If you need to drill into our head that executing people because they're gay or that a character is trans, did I mention they're trans, very trans, so trans they're translucent transX3000 then you're failing on building up a world. How about not mentioning it because no one cares, because it's considered normal. Just like people don't gawk and point fingers at someone for being a certain race or having pink hair nowadays. People don't give a shit. Focus on story instead of virtue signaling.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 17, 2020 17:38:29 GMT
How about not mentioning it because no one cares, because it's considered normal. It's considered normal in your own environment but that's not really how it is for a lot of the people that feel like they don't belong. I live in a place where the police targets transgender people in the streets and forces them to do drills while saying "I want to be a man". So it's actually a nice and harmless thing when they can play a videogame and feel like they also belong in the story. That's not virtue signaling, that's just being a decent person.
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Post by Hrulj on May 17, 2020 17:46:46 GMT
How about not mentioning it because no one cares, because it's considered normal. It's considered normal in your own environment but that's not really how it is for a lot of the people that feel like they don't belong. I live in a place where the police targets transgender people in the streets and forces them to do drills while saying "I want to be a man". So it's actually a nice and harmless thing when they can play a videogame and feel like they also belong in the story. That's not virtue signaling, that's just being a decent person. Do you think a place like that will exist in 2183 in space? That people like that will be traveling in space?
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Post by smilesja on May 17, 2020 18:02:20 GMT
All of this won't matter however if Bioware doesn't cut out the toxic SJW mentality they've been forcing onto people and into their games when it makes no sense. So you're telling them to censor things you don't like? I thought games were art?
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Post by Hrulj on May 17, 2020 18:06:24 GMT
All of this won't matter however if Bioware doesn't cut out the toxic SJW mentality they've been forcing onto people and into their games when it makes no sense. So you're telling them to censor things you don't like? I thought games were art? Where is censorship in asking for no virtue signaling?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 17, 2020 18:10:50 GMT
So you're telling them to censor things you don't like? I thought games were art? Where is censorship in asking for no virtue signaling? You're telling them to not have certsin groups of people have acknowledgement in the games. Also you fail to see that even if what you say in the setting is true, it's not 2183 for the players but 2020 and thus those kinds of things still matter.
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Post by Hrulj on May 17, 2020 18:16:16 GMT
Where is censorship in asking for no virtue signaling? You're telling them to not have certsin groups of people have acknowledgement in the games. Also you fail to see that even if what you say in the setting is true, it's not 2183 for the players but 2020 and thus those kinds of things still matter. I'm telling them I am tired of their virtue signaling and showing me how tolerant and progressive they are. Not the world, not the main character but Bioware. Yeah they matter. Where's my Pigmy main character? How can I play Mass Effect from my jungle hut without a character I specifically can relate to?
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 17, 2020 19:08:03 GMT
Do you think a place like that will exist in 2183 in space? That people like that will be traveling in space? Maybe you're right, maybe not, it doesn't really matter. The point is that these are videogames that tell important stories to people that live in this reality, not in 2183, so it's not a bad thing to include other people in them as well.
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Post by smilesja on May 17, 2020 19:12:29 GMT
So you're telling them to censor things you don't like? I thought games were art? Where is censorship in asking for no virtue signaling? By not letting a character admit who they are as a person.
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Post by Hrulj on May 17, 2020 19:51:17 GMT
Do you think a place like that will exist in 2183 in space? That people like that will be traveling in space? Maybe you're right, maybe not, it doesn't really matter. The point is that these are videogames that tell important stories to people that live in this reality, not in 2183, so it's not a bad thing to include other people in them as well. By not mentioning it you include them. It's normal. No one talks about it anymore in 2183. That's the way to include it. Unless we don't accept it by then in which case there should be an entire story or questline about it instead of a random merchant telling me about their sexual proclivities. Where is censorship in asking for no virtue signaling? By not letting a character admit who they are as a person. I am not their parents. I don't care about X merchant or Z character coming out as trans or gay. If you live in a large city you probably walk by tens of thousands of gays or transexuals over the course of a year and how many of them feel the urge to tell you about it? I don't care for it, especially since it's just Bioware performing an autofelatio on themselves.
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Post by smilesja on May 17, 2020 19:54:39 GMT
Maybe you're right, maybe not, it doesn't really matter. The point is that these are videogames that tell important stories to people that live in this reality, not in 2183, so it's not a bad thing to include other people in them as well. By not mentioning it you include them. It's normal. No one talks about it anymore in 2183. That's the way to include it. Unless we don't accept it by then in which case there should be an entire story or questline about it instead of a random merchant telling me about their sexual proclivities. By not letting a character admit who they are as a person. I am not their parents. I don't care about X merchant or Z character coming out as trans or gay. If you live in a large city you probably walk by tens of thousands of gays or transexuals over the course of a year and how many of them feel the urge to tell you about it? I don't care for it, especially since it's just Bioware performing an autofelatio on themselves. You don't but there are definitely people who do, why prevent them from expressing who they are especially in the context of the game it's a conversation that's easily skippable.
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Post by alanc9 on May 17, 2020 20:01:19 GMT
And what exactly is that ? Equal gender representation ? Transgender inclusivity ? The horror. It's 2183. If you need to drill into our head that executing people because they're gay or that a character is trans, did I mention they're trans, very trans, so trans they're translucent transX3000 then you're failing on building up a world. How about not mentioning it because no one cares, because it's considered normal. Just like people don't gawk and point fingers at someone for being a certain race or having pink hair nowadays. People don't give a shit. Focus on story instead of virtue signaling. I can't see your point through all the hyperbole. Could you maybe tone it down to sonething a bit more realistic? I can't get a good idea of what would trigger you and what wouldn't.
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Post by Abramsrunner on May 18, 2020 19:40:50 GMT
I identify as a M-8 Avenger which makes me a common, versatile, military grade assault rifle, I am accurate in short bursts, and deadly on full auto. I like going through the mud while being held/caressed. My parts are inexpensive and interchangeable meaning I can fit into any role you need me to be in while being tough, reliable, and easy to use. If you don't think I don't do enough DPS you're an M-8 Avengerphobe and need to check your rifle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
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Post by ClarkKent on May 18, 2020 23:51:20 GMT
People should be less fragile when consuming media. Lets writers write what they want to write about. If it's a real issue for you, then maybe don't buy the game, or even just ignore the quests and characters in question(or consult a therapist).
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Post by KaiserShep on May 19, 2020 16:34:04 GMT
If a trilogy reboot is to be done then I'd want Reapers back in Game 1 and only Game 1, a great cosmic threat that establishes the main character as a hero and gives us reasons for his importance in later game. The subsequent games, well, I'd rather have them about exploring the dormant relays in Milky Way, and preferably involving space battles, colonialism and ability to either help or exterminate-subjugate the natives. All of this won't matter however if Bioware doesn't cut out the toxic SJW mentality they've been forcing onto people and into their games when it makes no sense. Beyond Krem, who you only get more info on if you really bother to keep asking questions, or that NPC in Andromeda who got patched so anyone who plays now wouldn’t even know, what exactly are you talking about?
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Post by alanc9 on May 19, 2020 16:35:42 GMT
Maybe he suffers from gamer's OCD and has to use investigate options if they exist?
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Post by FireAndBlood on May 20, 2020 13:06:13 GMT
After reading many ideas about rebooting Mass Effect all I can say is thank god most of you aren’t writers working at BioWare or really any game company, or really any entertainment company.
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Post by Sanunes on May 20, 2020 13:28:41 GMT
If a trilogy reboot is to be done then I'd want Reapers back in Game 1 and only Game 1, a great cosmic threat that establishes the main character as a hero and gives us reasons for his importance in later game. The subsequent games, well, I'd rather have them about exploring the dormant relays in Milky Way, and preferably involving space battles, colonialism and ability to either help or exterminate-subjugate the natives. All of this won't matter however if Bioware doesn't cut out the toxic SJW mentality they've been forcing onto people and into their games when it makes no sense. Beyond Krem, who you only get more info on if you really bother to keep asking questions, or that NPC in Andromeda who got patched so anyone who plays now wouldn’t even know, what exactly are you talking about? Trying to figure that out for myself, for I thought Steve was a very good way of having a gay man in a video game and it wasn't in virtue signalling or anything else people like to throw at BioWare for unless you are trying to romance him the only way you know is because he talks about his husband that died. Then again this is the same internet that was doing petitions for a toggle to protect them from the "scourge" of non-straight romances.
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Post by Phantom on May 20, 2020 16:08:49 GMT
Beyond Krem, who you only get more info on if you really bother to keep asking questions, or that NPC in Andromeda who got patched so anyone who plays now wouldn’t even know, what exactly are you talking about? Trying to figure that out for myself, for I thought Steve was a very good way of having a gay man in a video game and it wasn't in virtue signalling or anything else people like to throw at BioWare for unless you are trying to romance him the only way you know is because he talks about his husband that died. Then again this is the same internet that was doing petitions for a toggle to protect them from the "scourge" of non-straight romances. Steve is a gay man that fits within Mass Effect believably. Also I do consider him to very likable as well. I do want to Bioware to see why he fits believably in Mass Effect and go from there for future Mass Effect games
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Post by cloud9 on May 20, 2020 21:10:23 GMT
After reading many ideas about rebooting Mass Effect all I can say is thank god most of you aren’t writers working at BioWare or really any game company, or really any entertainment company. Hey, if you have any better ideas I love to hear them.
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Post by themikefest on May 20, 2020 21:14:51 GMT
Trying to figure that out for myself, for I thought Steve was a very good way of having a gay man in a video game and it wasn't in virtue signalling or anything else people like to throw at BioWare for unless you are trying to romance him the only way you know is because he talks about his husband that died. Then again this is the same internet that was doing petitions for a toggle to protect them from the "scourge" of non-straight romances. Steve is a gay man that fits within Mass Effect believably. Also I do consider him to very likable as well. I do want to Bioware to see why he fits believably in Mass Effect and go from there for future Mass Effect games I like Cortez. He's a good guy. If a trilogy remake were to happen, it wouldn't be hard to have him, and Samantha Traynor, another good character, in all 3 games.
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Post by Phantom on May 20, 2020 21:23:27 GMT
Steve is a gay man that fits within Mass Effect believably. Also I do consider him to very likable as well. I do want to Bioware to see why he fits believably in Mass Effect and go from there for future Mass Effect games I like Cortez. He's a good guy. If a trilogy remake were to happen, it wouldn't be hard to have him, and Samantha Traynor, another good character, in all 3 games. Well they are genuinely good characters that happen to be gay. so for future reference, the quality of writing is having genuinely good characters of all stripes is what I truly want.
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