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Post by Dukemon on Jul 26, 2019 2:10:20 GMT
It is a little obsession how I prefer the human mage origin in Dragon Age Origins, so I guess. My standard world state consists with an Amell who is alive. Learned Arcane Warrior, Battlemagic and Spirit healer , has no li and is still part of Alistair s court. So Awakening epilouge says. I think it is a little bit ironic that the Warden is searching for a Serum for the blight that is binding him and Alistair and other wardens to the dark spawn and the Grey Wardens. So the codex in DAI says. He does something like Avernus did.  but there are some questions I cannot answer, because that is the unknown past of our Wardens , who we are playing, is still more written by Bioware. 1 what actually knows Amell about his past? Does he know he is from Free Marches? Something like that. What did he heard during his time in the circle? 2 According his letter to the Inquisitor he is still the Commander of the Grey. The Awakening epilog says after few years he left Vigils Keep, went back to Denerim and then disappeared. (but in the quest King Alistair Teagan mentions that the HoF could be back in Denerim) Although I think Amell was still Commander in Witch Hunt and returned to Vigils Keep, would makes sense. The dlc takes place 2 years after Awakening, when I remembering correctly. It explains Teagans assertion. However, there is again the contradiction with the cat and Anders. Why should OUR Warden take away the kitten from Anders? Is it a loose reference from the DLCs in which we kept the cat in the inventory? Next step. When the Warden is still the Commander why the Ferelden Wardens are following Clarel? What they dealing with her? I'm a little off the subject now. XD this thread is for all of this questions about Amell. I guess my Amell Warden would get along very good with my Trevelyan. Well, and Hawke is family. In my little head lore my Amell visited Kirkwall between act 2 and 3. And Hawke has could get a book with lessons about more magic schools and the Arcane Warrior. Trevelyan could have learned it too. Similar questions I have about Trevelyan mage. Did he heard in the circle about HoF in songs like Hawke did? (in a circle that was not existing in Dragon Age 2) but this are questions for the Trevelyan mage thread |
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Post by Catilina on Jul 26, 2019 10:57:11 GMT
I don't think, any document exists, what Warden Amell knows about Revka Amell and the siblings's fate. Here's the wiki about it: Amell familyRevka AmellHeadcanon: My Aerland Amell heard rumours about his mother "went crazy" and disappeared after they arrested him, and later his father also disappeared with his children – who were all mages. He just hopes, they reunited somewhere. He makes bitter jokes about, that in Tevinter his family would give the greatest Archons and Divines to the Imperium... Here? Just "cursed" pariahs. I love the Circle Mage Origin (both, but you're right about that Amell is special because of Hawke), I think it's underestimated. My favourite one. This is the most deppressive origin – to me. This is about how people being able to accept… to enjoy their captivity. The Circle is an awful place. Paranoid and unhealthy, but some mages see it as home. And accept, in fact to agree with the captivity. The Chantry, the oppressor. Just see Keili in the Circle’s Chantry.
And just see, how easy to accept First Enchanter Irving as a father figure – and the place as a haven. But this is an awful place, and Irving a wrong father figure, who sacrifices his apprentice. And from this ‘haven’ only the Taint able to save Amell/Surana.
Be a ‘good’ mage… we’ll kill you, but only for your sake! Be grateful! And there is an option, that Surana/Amell is grateful to Irving and the Circle – after the Circle would kill them, even if they were loyal…! An option to understand and respect Greagoir and Irving and blame Jowan. ONLY Jowan…
This always makes me think about it. People can easily accept that the deprivation of freedom is for their sake… and the 'good behaviour and the acceptance is the best way (Wynne). Most of them blame the victim and understands agree with the oppressor. And this scare me.
The Circle Mage origin is very touching and real. About Ser Pounce a-lot: I don't think our Warden Commander takes Anders' cat away – but we know, our Warden Commender on his/her way. I think, another one did it, someone who replaced him/her there temporarily. (And we also know, Anders has another reason to leave as well.) |
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jul 26, 2019 11:23:28 GMT
I'm not sure how much Amell knows about their past, or even that their family was nobility from the Free Marches however it's implied several times the Circles at least keep some records about who they have in the Tower (name, birth date...date they came to the Circle etc.) so I head canon that whenever I play the Amell origin, that after they become a Warden and end the Blight they return to the Circle and look through those records (maybe even during Broken Circle when no one is around) in those records they find out about their mother Revka and try and find her, depending on how depressive I want that story to be they either find nothing or a grave (finding out she died some years back) or when I want a happy ending for Amell I head canon they actually do find Revka and reunite with her after which they write and visit from time to time it's also said in dialogue by Leandra that Revka had several children, all where eventually found to possess magic and taken to Circle across Thedas I had a head canon for one of my Amells at one point that she had four siblings, one who fled the Circle and became an apostate, another was a Chantry loyalist and was in the Circle of Ansburg until the events of Inquisition where they died during the Mage rebellion, the third was made tranquil and the fourth was still alive and had ironically also been recruited by the Grey Wardens although in a different country (Antiva I belief...since my head canon at the time was that my Amell was half Antivan) The Warden one and the apostate one eventually meet and try to find their tranquil sibling and the Hero (and after some time they reunite with their mother) I might recreate my Amell with this head canon set up, though instead of female I think I'll make a male one Circle Mage aside from Human Noble and Dalish Elf are my favorite Origins  |
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Post by Catilina on Jul 26, 2019 11:29:13 GMT
I'm not sure how much Amell knows about their past, or even that their family was nobility from the Free Marches however it's implied several times the Circles at least keep some records about who they have in the Tower (name, birth date...date they came to the Circle etc.) so I head canon that whenever I play the Amell origin, that after they become a Warden and end the Blight they return to the Circle and look through those records (maybe even during Broken Circle when no one is around) in those records they find out about their mother Revka and try and find her, depending on how depressive I want that story to be they either find nothing or a grave (finding out she died some years back) or when I want a happy ending for Amell I head canon they actually do find Revka and reunite with her after which they write and visit from time to time it's also said in dialogue by Leandra that Revka had several children, all where eventually found to possess magic and taken to Circle across Thedas I had a head canon for one of my Amells at one point that she had four siblings, one who fled the Circle and became an apostate, another was a Chantry loyalist and was in the Circle of Ansburg until the events of Inquisition where they died during the Mage rebellion, the third was made tranquil and the fourth was still alive and had ironically also been recruited by the Grey Wardens although in a different country (Antiva I belief...since my head canon at the time was that my Amell was half Antivan) The Warden one and the apostate one eventually meet and try to find their tranquil sibling and the Hero (and after some time they reunite with their mother) I am making plans to recreate my Amell with this head canon set up, though instead of female I think I'll make a male one Circle Mage aside from Human Noble and Dalish Elf are my favorite Origins I think s/he's able to hear some rumours. Unreliable, obscure rumours, ofc – complemented with his/her imagination...
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Post by Dukemon on Jul 28, 2019 14:03:45 GMT
I speculation that Revka is dead. It is because I guess Revka is very similar to Leandra, she went with Malcolm to Ferelden to hide her husband and the child based on Revkas experience. Revka will have coped little with the loss of all her children. (at least in the German version Leandra is talking from children not child)
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Post by Catilina on Jul 28, 2019 14:15:14 GMT
I speculation that Revka is dead. It is because I guess Revka is very similar to Leandra, she went with Malcolm to Ferelden to hide her husband and the child based on Revkas experience. Revka will have coped little with the loss of all her children. (at least in the German version Leandra is talking from children not child) Revka had 5 children, all were mages.
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Post by talyn82 on Sept 25, 2019 1:50:47 GMT
I am a fan of the Mage Origin also and of Hawke mage. But who is Revka and where is she mentioned? In Inquisition?
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Post by Catilina on Sept 25, 2019 7:38:47 GMT
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Post by talyn82 on Sept 25, 2019 19:59:33 GMT
Oh that's why I never heard it. When I played DA2 it was using my Cousland save. I might now have to do an Amell run then play DA2.
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