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Post by Heimdall on Aug 24, 2019 12:26:56 GMT
I would like it. I think playing on the ground in a big, living city is something Mass Effect lacked so far. But I would like it in the usual concept. Fly around with a ship, then go into big cities on the planets we visit. I’m convinced an espionage thriller type story could work well in ME with that setup really
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 24, 2019 15:33:33 GMT
The Ghost in the Shell anime and the Deus Ex games are my favorite of the genre. That's some good shit.
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Post by LogicGunn on Aug 24, 2019 16:10:07 GMT
I'm open to a different game style in the ME universe, absolutely.
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Post by x19dude95 on Aug 26, 2019 20:17:50 GMT
I think you could do a medium size game like Blood Dragon what takes place on the Citadel or Omega could work out.
Maybe have it be a detective game.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 27, 2019 18:00:39 GMT
I'm open to a different game style in the ME universe, absolutely. As a side entry but not a main title sure.
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Post by revelationeffect on Aug 28, 2019 9:08:49 GMT
I would absolutely love a smaller-scale game set in the ME universe, especially if it was cyberpunk/espionage flavored. I don't know if it would ever get made, since Bioware and I have little doubt EA seem to have an interest in more broadly-marketable "save the world" type stories, but that'd be great.
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Post by natetrace on Aug 28, 2019 11:03:17 GMT
It'd be interesting. If Shepard has an earthborn background and was in a gang, I always think of Akira. It'd probably have to be pre first contact, maybe. I've thought of this with Andromeda, where Prodromos is built up decades or more into the future and Ryder has a symbolic statue. I'm looking forward to cyberpunk 2077, though the first person view irks me. I love plenty of fps games but I hate when they claim extreme customization only to limit your viewpoint. Ah well, I've still got it pre-ordered.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Sept 28, 2019 13:33:23 GMT
Could some one point me an example of a "fun cyberpunk" experience in any media? As a sub-genre of sci-fi I've yet to see a "fun cyberpunk" movie, comic, novel, anime, or game. Most might be cool but I wouldn't say any of them are fun mostly because the creators take it so seriously and have their head up their ass. The Ghost in the Shell anime and the Deus Ex games are my favorite of the genre.
I've seen and have Ghost in the Shell on DVD and digital download it's cool but it's not fun it's serious as a heart attack. The Matrix Trilogy are the most "fun" cyberpunk movies, only because they're so bonkers.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 28, 2019 16:18:05 GMT
The Ghost in the Shell anime and the Deus Ex games are my favorite of the genre.
I've seen and have Ghost in the Shell on DVD and digital download it's cool but it's not fun it's serious as a heart attack. The Matrix Trilogy are the most "fun" cyberpunk movies, only because they're so bonkers.
I’m guessing the movie with Scarlett Johansson? If so I’m not talking about that. I was referring to the anime which yes there are a lot of serious moments but also a lot of lighthearted moments too.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Sept 28, 2019 21:24:37 GMT
It could work since the galaxy is in a dyspotanian state after the reaper invasion. Or at least for a short time they are. They could do this if they did it right. After all just because we only see a small amount of each planet doesn't mean that is all their is. Ironically doing this might help them avoid the endings to some degree (except refuse of course) since it would easily make sense that some planets would be isolated for a long time and could have had their comm systems destroyed by the reapers. Remember we don't know how many people in the galaxy died by the end of the reaper war but I wouldn't be suprised if it was up to half and so much infrastructure was destroyed they could easily have a planet be isolated for a long time. If it looked alright I would probably buy it.
That said I would rather them stay with the space opera genre. Can't wait for cyberpunk 2077 to come out..april 2020 can't get here soon enough.
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Post by helios969 on Sept 29, 2019 10:01:20 GMT
The Ghost in the Shell anime and the Deus Ex games are my favorite of the genre.
I've seen and have Ghost in the Shell on DVD and digital download it's cool but it's not fun it's serious as a heart attack. The Matrix Trilogy are the most "fun" cyberpunk movies, only because they're so bonkers.
Watch the anime series Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex. That's where it really shines as an IP...it's still quite serious but has plenty of comic relief. The movies, both anime and live action are kind of just okay imo.
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Post by Sanunes on Sept 29, 2019 12:50:56 GMT
I wouldn't be against BioWare going towards the Cyberpunk aspect even though I would have to start putting people on ignore that would say they are copying CDPR. The catch is I wouldn't want it to be in the Mass Effect universe, I think it would have a very similar reaction as Andromeda in the way of "not my Mass Effect" which I saw a bunch of with Andromeda. I rather see it being a completely new IP and that way the setting and such can be tailored to fit the narrative of the story they would want to tell instead of cramming it into Mass Effect.
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Post by tatann on Sept 30, 2019 11:29:52 GMT
I wouldn't be against BioWare going towards the Cyberpunk aspect even though I would have to start putting people on ignore that would say they are copying CDPR. The catch is I wouldn't want it to be in the Mass Effect universe, I think it would have a very similar reaction as Andromeda in the way of "not my Mass Effect" which I saw a bunch of with Andromeda. I rather see it being a completely new IP and that way the setting and such can be tailored to fit the narrative of the story they would want to tell instead of cramming it into Mass Effect. It depends, it could keep the ME universe vibe/lore but be set in a "darker" place (e.g. Omega or a whole system where the Alliance prefers not to dwell too much) I think ME's setting can be a good place for such themes as corruption, police brutality, organized crime, racism, prostitution/slavery, ... And obviously effects of science on people (biotics, tech-enhanced people, ...)
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Post by Sanunes on Sept 30, 2019 14:07:02 GMT
I wouldn't be against BioWare going towards the Cyberpunk aspect even though I would have to start putting people on ignore that would say they are copying CDPR. The catch is I wouldn't want it to be in the Mass Effect universe, I think it would have a very similar reaction as Andromeda in the way of "not my Mass Effect" which I saw a bunch of with Andromeda. I rather see it being a completely new IP and that way the setting and such can be tailored to fit the narrative of the story they would want to tell instead of cramming it into Mass Effect. It depends, it could keep the ME universe vibe/lore but be set in a "darker" place (e.g. Omega or a whole system where the Alliance prefers not to dwell too much) I think ME's setting can be a good place for such themes as corruption, police brutality, organized crime, racism, prostitution/slavery, ... And obviously effects of science on people (biotics, tech-enhanced people, ...) That isn't what people expect from Mass Effect, its why I said I think it would have the reaction of "not my Mass Effect" all of those things are not key parts of what BioWare had with Mass Effect and I doubt people would want to see as a focus in the game they are playing labeled Mass Effect. Going with a new IP there is a much better chance the "fans" would allow BioWare to experiment with those ideas and not go blabbering about how "EA ruined Mass Effect by making BioWare go dark and gritty".
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 30, 2019 14:30:50 GMT
It depends, it could keep the ME universe vibe/lore but be set in a "darker" place (e.g. Omega or a whole system where the Alliance prefers not to dwell too much) I think ME's setting can be a good place for such themes as corruption, police brutality, organized crime, racism, prostitution/slavery, ... And obviously effects of science on people (biotics, tech-enhanced people, ...) That isn't what people expect from Mass Effect, its why I said I think it would have the reaction of "not my Mass Effect" all of those things are not key parts of what BioWare had with Mass Effect and I doubt people would want to see as a focus in the game they are playing labeled Mass Effect. Going with a new IP there is a much better chance the "fans" would allow BioWare to experiment with those ideas and not go blabbering about how "EA ruined Mass Effect by making BioWare go dark and gritty". I understand where you're going with this. There are plenty of people that aren't willing to sacrifice space exploration for a grounded setting, while others would like a more confined, but narrative lush experience. I can't see Bioware being able to pull off such a thing, in satisfying intervals, without multiple studios pitching in and different teams per project, i.e. one team makes a more broad ME experience, under a certain subtitle, while the other has the more focused experience, under another subtitle. Like Call of Duty has Black Ops and Modern Warfare, which work as sub-settings inside the same franchise, that release annually. Would be mighty ambitious, though.
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Post by tatann on Sept 30, 2019 18:24:11 GMT
It depends, it could keep the ME universe vibe/lore but be set in a "darker" place (e.g. Omega or a whole system where the Alliance prefers not to dwell too much) I think ME's setting can be a good place for such themes as corruption, police brutality, organized crime, racism, prostitution/slavery, ... And obviously effects of science on people (biotics, tech-enhanced people, ...) That isn't what people expect from Mass Effect, its why I said I think it would have the reaction of "not my Mass Effect" all of those things are not key parts of what BioWare had with Mass Effect and I doubt people would want to see as a focus in the game they are playing labeled Mass Effect. Going with a new IP there is a much better chance the "fans" would allow BioWare to experiment with those ideas and not go blabbering about how "EA ruined Mass Effect by making BioWare go dark and gritty". They already went sad and depressed with ME3. To me, Mass Effect should be about having a sense of discovery (of places and cultures), of wonder (first time you see the Citadel) and epicness. At least that's what the first and part of the second was But if I can't have that, I'd prefer a dark/adult theme to a sad one (yet I still enjoyed ME3).
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Post by Phantom on Sept 30, 2019 18:28:03 GMT
Well my fanon idea of Black Talon Organization does fit into the Cyberpunk, Dark and Adult themes and can work with a Prequel/Concurrent/Sequel to MET and MEA games. Shit With Batpool help, I did manage them workable with Warhammer 40,000
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Post by griffith82 on Sept 30, 2019 23:43:41 GMT
That isn't what people expect from Mass Effect, its why I said I think it would have the reaction of "not my Mass Effect" all of those things are not key parts of what BioWare had with Mass Effect and I doubt people would want to see as a focus in the game they are playing labeled Mass Effect. Going with a new IP there is a much better chance the "fans" would allow BioWare to experiment with those ideas and not go blabbering about how "EA ruined Mass Effect by making BioWare go dark and gritty". They already went sad and depressed with ME3. To me, Mass Effect should be about having a sense of discovery (of places and cultures), of wonder (first time you see the Citadel) and epicness. At least that's what the first and part of the second was But if I can't have that, I'd prefer a dark/adult theme to a sad one (yet I still enjoyed ME3). I wouldnt call ME3 that. Serious yes but not sad and depressed overall. A few parts were though.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 1, 2019 15:47:14 GMT
I wouldnt call ME3 that. Serious yes but not sad and depressed overall. A few parts were though. I'll be sure to tell my crippling depression how wrong it is.
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Post by griffith82 on Oct 1, 2019 19:11:03 GMT
I wouldnt call ME3 that. Serious yes but not sad and depressed overall. A few parts were though. I'll be sure to tell my crippling depression how wrong it is. If a game bothered you that much I'd stop gaming.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 2, 2019 12:07:11 GMT
If a game bothered you that much I'd stop gaming. I did. I started back up again a few years later, but a game shouldn't have such an effect on people, to begin with.
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Post by griffith82 on Oct 2, 2019 14:17:46 GMT
If a game bothered you that much I'd stop gaming. I did. I started back up again a few years later, but a game shouldn't have such an effect on people, to begin with. The best games leave an impact on you and the ME trilogy did that in a positive way for me. Sorry that it bothered you so much.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 2, 2019 14:32:34 GMT
The best games leave an impact on you and the ME trilogy did that in a positive way for me. Sorry that it bothered you so much. As appreciated as it is, I don't need it from you, griffith82, but thanks all the same.
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Post by tatann on Oct 2, 2019 15:04:55 GMT
They already went sad and depressed with ME3. To me, Mass Effect should be about having a sense of discovery (of places and cultures), of wonder (first time you see the Citadel) and epicness. At least that's what the first and part of the second was But if I can't have that, I'd prefer a dark/adult theme to a sad one (yet I still enjoyed ME3). I wouldnt call ME3 that. Serious yes but not sad and depressed overall. A few parts were though. One of the thing that marked people with MET is the soundtrack (I couldn't remember one track from MEA). When "content creators" want people to remind ME1, all they have to do is to use any of the sci-fi synth tracks recognizable in a fraction of second by any fan. It's not my cup of tea (although I listened to a bunch of Jean-Michel Jarre as a kid), but as soon as the first note hits, tears of joy in my eyes, nostalgia, and an urge to reinstall ME1 But when they do the same for ME3, all we get is the "sad piano theme". That's the overall tone this game reminds me of, a sad piano theme Once again, not a bad game, and some great and funny moments, I'm talking about the general tone
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Post by griffith82 on Oct 2, 2019 16:16:12 GMT
I wouldnt call ME3 that. Serious yes but not sad and depressed overall. A few parts were though. One of the thing that marked people with MET is the soundtrack (I couldn't remember one track from MEA). When "content creators" want people to remind ME1, all they have to do is to use any of the sci-fi synth tracks recognizable in a fraction of second by any fan. It's not my cup of tea (although I listened to a bunch of Jean-Michel Jarre as a kid), but as soon as the first note hits, tears of joy in my eyes, nostalgia, and an urge to reinstall ME1 But when they do the same for ME3, all we get is the "sad piano theme". That's the overall tone this game reminds me of, a sad piano theme Once again, not a bad game, and some great and funny moments, I'm talking about the general tone I see your point. But I feel it fits the games story.
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