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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 21, 2020 3:12:19 GMT
It's not an "MMO" at all. The first letter in that acronym is "Massively", as in a large group of people playing simultaneously, and last I checked, the trailer didn't have 50 Thors wailing on a single AIM soldier.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 21, 2020 3:51:22 GMT
It's sad to see the two studios who gave us the Tomb Raider reboot and DH: Human Revolution get stuck on this MMO crap. TBH it's more a game thayt has MMO options not strictly an MMO because i tcan be played all solo if you wish wit hthe AI controlling your companions. Personall ythough I'm lookin gforward to playing it. It'salso possible that the ywanted to work on something a bit different which was why this assignment was given to them much like when the Original Mass Effec tteam were put on Anthem. Perhaps they ewre tired of working on the Deus Ex and Tomb Raidr sreies which was why like MEA when i twas handed to Montreal Shadow was given to a different team to work on. Can't speak on Tomb Raider, but from everything I've seen they weren't tired of working on Deus Ex and were really looking forward to finishing Adam's trilogy. The prolem was the game was like MEA where it did well but not well enough, so when they needed more devs for other games like the Avengers the series was put on ice until later.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 21, 2020 6:10:36 GMT
Yeah yeah, Deus Ex is good. We have a thread for that, surely?
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 21, 2020 6:29:06 GMT
So this article (https://www.gameinformer.com/2020/08/20/crystal-dynamics-dives-deeper-into-the-threat-of-aim-in-marvels-avengers) seems to indicate that Inhumans will play a bigger role in the story than just adding Ms Marvel to the team. Marvel! Stop trying to make Inhumans happen! IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 21, 2020 11:18:42 GMT
It's not an "MMO" at all. The first letter in that acronym is "Massively", as in a large group of people playing simultaneously, and last I checked, the trailer didn't have 50 Thors wailing on a single AIM soldier. Indeed bu tthen you can' t have 50 Thor's on the field anyway as you caonly play with . But yeah the MP part should you wish t opla yi tis moer a Co-op mode like ME'sMP where each player picksan Avenger and getsto play withthem on that match/mission. Obvoiusly if you're playing solo you can pick whatever Avnger you want and the AI will take the rest. But there can only be one of each Avenger in the matcgh asI undrestand it. So for example you pick Iron man nobody else in your match will be able to play as him. AsI'l be playin gthis game largely soloit won't real;ly matter to me I'll luikely be just pickin gthe ones I want to focus on levelling up or playing a mission with during the next part of the game.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 21, 2020 11:23:30 GMT
TBH it's more a game thayt has MMO options not strictly an MMO because i tcan be played all solo if you wish wit hthe AI controlling your companions. Personall ythough I'm lookin gforward to playing it. It'salso possible that the ywanted to work on something a bit different which was why this assignment was given to them much like when the Original Mass Effec tteam were put on Anthem. Perhaps they ewre tired of working on the Deus Ex and Tomb Raidr sreies which was why like MEA when i twas handed to Montreal Shadow was given to a different team to work on. Can't speak on Tomb Raider, but from everything I've seen they weren't tired of working on Deus Ex and were really looking forward to finishing Adam's trilogy. The prolem was the game was like MEA where it did well but not well enough, so when they needed more devs for other games like the Avengers the series was put on ice until later. Well sometimesthingsdo get moved t othe bacv kburneer in favour of other projects it's jus tpart of the video games business.
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Post by AnDromedary on Aug 21, 2020 17:55:07 GMT
I just really hope that now that the Marvel stuff is done they will get back to Deus Ex. I really want a resolution to Adam's story. Delaying it wasn't great to start with but if it never gets picked up again, that would really suck.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 21, 2020 20:38:58 GMT
I just really hope that now that the Marvel stuff is done they will get back to Deus Ex. I really want a resolution to Adam's story. Delaying it wasn't great to start with but if it never gets picked up again, that would really suck. Well tha tdepends also on the extra DLC charactres and how many they plan on addin galso from what I've heard they'er adding extrastory conten tin withthose characters so it reall ydepensd how many people the yneed to work on that.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 22, 2020 0:52:06 GMT
Oh my god, go the Deus Ex thread if you wanna talk about Deus Ex. Or make one, if there isn't one.
Or make a thread about "games that aren't being made right now", if that's what you wanna complain about.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 22, 2020 11:58:10 GMT
Oh my god, go the Deus Ex thread if you wanna talk about Deus Ex. Or make one, if there isn't one. Or make a thread about "games that aren't being made right now", if that's what you wanna complain about. Indeed thisthread isabout discussing the Avengersgam ethat'scomin gout in acouple of weeks. Talking of the Avengres game though the more I see of Black Widow the more badass she seems to look. Sh ealmos tlooks like a DAI dual ewildin grogue on streoids with how quick she dashes around the battlefield. I'm definitely looking forward t ousing her as well as Kamala and Iron man.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 22, 2020 12:03:52 GMT
I was a lot more interested in the game, but something with the art style is triggering my uncanny valley feelings. Now I am not saying boycott, but I want to know what the exclusive of Spider-Man means to the game.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 22, 2020 12:52:17 GMT
I was a lot more interested in the game, but something with the art style is triggering my uncanny valley feelings. Now I am not saying boycott, but I want to know what the exclusive of Spider-Man means to the game. As fa ras I know it just means that PSownreswill jus thave an extra character to pla ywith it won' tmean anything with regardst othe main story because I think th eteam knows that would be a bad move. Evrey charactre I think wil l have a side story for you t oplay throug heithre by yourself or with friends it's up to you. Spidreman asfar asI know isjust one of thosre the only difference is it'll beexclusive to playstation. Whether it's a timed one or a permanent one is unclear but as far as I'm concerned if I wanto play as Spiderman I'll boot up a Spiderman game. I don' tneed Spide yinvolved for me to enjoy this Avengers thegame looks like it's fine and a lot of fun still without him. Besides Spidey like Hawkeye is goin gto be a post launch character anyway whic hmeanshe won't hav eanything t odo with the main story because as far as I know that will centre around the initial 6 Avengers we are getting at launch. As for when the DLC drops and how often I don't know. That miht be determined on how well the game does. Bu tew do know tha tpost launch content for the game is planned as it'll come with each of the characters or Character groups if the ychoose to release moer than 1 at any given time which is possible.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 22, 2020 14:09:19 GMT
I was a lot more interested in the game, but something with the art style is triggering my uncanny valley feelings. Now I am not saying boycott, but I want to know what the exclusive of Spider-Man means to the game. Well supposedly new characters that get added to the game will have their own story campaigns, skill trees, skins, etc. So potentially it's quite a lot of content that Xbox players won't get.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 22, 2020 14:36:41 GMT
I was a lot more interested in the game, but something with the art style is triggering my uncanny valley feelings. Now I am not saying boycott, but I want to know what the exclusive of Spider-Man means to the game. Well supposedly new characters that get added to the game will have their own story campaigns, skill trees, skins, etc. So potentially it's quite a lot of content that Xbox players won't get. That is a shame, for that is a lot of content that would be console exclusive if Spider-Man functions like all the other DLC characters. Definitely going to wait until its know for sure because having only 6 of 7 characters with that much content per character disappoints me. If it was some kind of exclusive version of Spider-Man and the Xbox got a more generic character that functioned the same way just without the name association then I wouldn't care.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 22, 2020 14:41:20 GMT
I was a lot more interested in the game, but something with the art style is triggering my uncanny valley feelings. Now I am not saying boycott, but I want to know what the exclusive of Spider-Man means to the game. As fa ras I know it just means that PSownreswill jus thave an extra character to pla ywith it won' tmean anything with regardst othe main story because I think th eteam knows that would be a bad move. Evrey charactre I think wil l have a side story for you t oplay throug heithre by yourself or with friends it's up to you. Spidreman asfar asI know isjust one of thosre the only difference is it'll beexclusive to playstation. Whether it's a timed one or a permanent one is unclear but as far as I'm concerned if I wanto play as Spiderman I'll boot up a Spiderman game. I don' tneed Spide yinvolved for me to enjoy this Avengers thegame looks like it's fine and a lot of fun still without him. Besides Spidey like Hawkeye is goin gto be a post launch character anyway whic hmeanshe won't hav eanything t odo with the main story because as far as I know that will centre around the initial 6 Avengers we are getting at launch. As for when the DLC drops and how often I don't know. That miht be determined on how well the game does. Bu tew do know tha tpost launch content for the game is planned as it'll come with each of the characters or Character groups if the ychoose to release moer than 1 at any given time which is possible. Its not that it is Spider-Man, but the amount of content associated with a DLC character. It could have been any other character if it was exclusive to one platform it would cast a negative light on the game for me.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 22, 2020 14:42:55 GMT
I was a lot more interested in the game, but something with the art style is triggering my uncanny valley feelings. Now I am not saying boycott, but I want to know what the exclusive of Spider-Man means to the game. Well supposedly new characters that get added to the game will have their own story campaigns, skill trees, skins, etc. So potentially it's quite a lot of content that Xbox players won't get. Only Spiide yis exclusive asll other characters asI understand it are coming to everyone But yes they'll all have their own storiesskins and skill tree as that'spart of the deal it's only Spiderman that won' t be avaliable to everyone. All other characters as far as I know are coming to all systems. Also tbh I blam eSon yfor this than I blame the makers of the game anyway so there. But I doubt tha tSpiderman will hav eany moer content than any of the othre DLC charactres will ge tthe onl ydifference is that everyon eoutside of Playstation willjus hav e1 less character to play with. For me it's nobig deal because if I really wantto play as Spiderman I'll boot up a Spiderman game.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 22, 2020 14:51:25 GMT
Well supposedly new characters that get added to the game will have their own story campaigns, skill trees, skins, etc. So potentially it's quite a lot of content that Xbox players won't get. That is a shame, for that is a lot of content that would be console exclusive if Spider-Man functions like all the other DLC characters. Definitely going to wait until its know for sure because having only 6 of 7 characters with that much content per character disappoints me. If it was some kind of exclusive version of Spider-Man and the Xbox got a more generic character that functioned the same way just without the name association then I wouldn't care. Supposedly every character plays differently, and pretty much every Marvel character associated with or similar to Spider-Man is probably covered by the Spider-Man licence that Sony hold currently. If Venom or Spider-Gwen were to be added to the game, it's doubtful that Xbox would get them either. I would also guess that the difference in content also rules out even the slightest possibility of people being able to play together across different systems, not that there was much chance of that in the first place.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 22, 2020 15:00:05 GMT
That is a shame, for that is a lot of content that would be console exclusive if Spider-Man functions like all the other DLC characters. Definitely going to wait until its know for sure because having only 6 of 7 characters with that much content per character disappoints me. If it was some kind of exclusive version of Spider-Man and the Xbox got a more generic character that functioned the same way just without the name association then I wouldn't care. Supposedly every character plays differently, and pretty much every Marvel character associated with or similar to Spider-Man is probably covered by the Spider-Man licence that Sony hold currently. If Venom or Spider-Gwen were to be added to the game, it's doubtful that Xbox would get them either. I would also guess that the difference in content also rules out even the slightest possibility of people being able to play together across different systems, not that there was much chance of that in the first place. Well you can't pla ywith moer than one Avenger in eac hteam in Co-op s oif you picked Iron Man fo rexample and I was on your team I wouldn' t be able to pick him I'd have to pick one of the other Avengers. If you're just playing solo matches/missoins then you can pick whatever Avenger you like and the AI will control the others that are participating. Besides Hulk says it best here what I feel about the Spidey exclusive
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 22, 2020 16:09:11 GMT
That is a shame, for that is a lot of content that would be console exclusive if Spider-Man functions like all the other DLC characters. Definitely going to wait until its know for sure because having only 6 of 7 characters with that much content per character disappoints me. If it was some kind of exclusive version of Spider-Man and the Xbox got a more generic character that functioned the same way just without the name association then I wouldn't care. Supposedly every character plays differently, and pretty much every Marvel character associated with or similar to Spider-Man is probably covered by the Spider-Man licence that Sony hold currently. If Venom or Spider-Gwen were to be added to the game, it's doubtful that Xbox would get them either. I would also guess that the difference in content also rules out even the slightest possibility of people being able to play together across different systems, not that there was much chance of that in the first place. As far as I can tell with video games its a game by game basis for Spider-Man so if they wanted to they could have Spider-Man on all platforms if they wished, all Sony has the rights to are the movies it even sounds like that Sony doesn't get revenue from the merchandising from the movies.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 22, 2020 16:43:38 GMT
Supposedly every character plays differently, and pretty much every Marvel character associated with or similar to Spider-Man is probably covered by the Spider-Man licence that Sony hold currently. If Venom or Spider-Gwen were to be added to the game, it's doubtful that Xbox would get them either. I would also guess that the difference in content also rules out even the slightest possibility of people being able to play together across different systems, not that there was much chance of that in the first place. As far as I can tell with video games its a game by game basis for Spider-Man so if they wanted to they could have Spider-Man on all platforms if they wished, all Sony has the rights to are the movies it even sounds like that Sony doesn't get revenue from the merchandising from the movies. Possibly but they ma yhave paid fotr exclusive rights in this instance it's moer a case of isit a premanan tdea lor a timed one unfortunately we'll only know that in time.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 23, 2020 0:12:40 GMT
Supposedly every character plays differently, and pretty much every Marvel character associated with or similar to Spider-Man is probably covered by the Spider-Man licence that Sony hold currently. If Venom or Spider-Gwen were to be added to the game, it's doubtful that Xbox would get them either. I would also guess that the difference in content also rules out even the slightest possibility of people being able to play together across different systems, not that there was much chance of that in the first place. As far as I can tell with video games its a game by game basis for Spider-Man so if they wanted to they could have Spider-Man on all platforms if they wished, all Sony has the rights to are the movies it even sounds like that Sony doesn't get revenue from the merchandising from the movies. Contracts can change, and Sony aren't likely to share the details publicly, but I don't think it is "case by case". Sony clearly has SOME rights in regard to Spider-Man in video games, because they are allowed to make Spider-Man video games. If Disney could compel them to make Spider-Man available on Xbox, then they absolutely would.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 23, 2020 0:36:50 GMT
As far as I can tell with video games its a game by game basis for Spider-Man so if they wanted to they could have Spider-Man on all platforms if they wished, all Sony has the rights to are the movies it even sounds like that Sony doesn't get revenue from the merchandising from the movies. Contracts can change, and Sony aren't likely to share the details publicly, but I don't think it is "case by case". Sony clearly has SOME rights in regard to Spider-Man in video games, because they are allowed to make Spider-Man video games. If Disney could compel them to make Spider-Man available on Xbox, then they absolutely would. When I talk about a game by game basis I mean that anyone is available to approach Disney to use Spider-Man its not exclusive to Sony to use the character. With Avengers I am pretty sure Sony went to Disney and made some case that they should have Spider-Man exclusive on their console. What I don't think exists is some contract where the use of Spider-Man is exclusive like Star Wars is to EA. That kind of contract to me would at least be mentioned to shareholders by one or both of the companies involved for I doubt it would be a small number.
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Post by danielhungary on Aug 23, 2020 9:30:08 GMT
My weekend beta gameplay was messed in chaos many times. The main story mission was a lot different and good but the many side missions where chatastrophic sometimes. I like the game and i was played allways on brutal but not as much as im going to pre-order it. There are many things i disliked in the game. There is no button to call my companions helping me out during hacking which resulted in death as allways no matter what i did. The other bad thing was the low framerate ( on PS4 ) and bugs, such as walking Hulk NPC in the same place or enemy clipping inside the walls. I liked the collectibles, the cosmetics and many gameplay animations but that is all. I was even seen 2D pixels behind windowed doors when i was climbed up with Black Widow.
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Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 23, 2020 15:27:54 GMT
My weekend beta gameplay was messed in chaos many times. The main story mission was a lot different and good but the many side missions where chatastrophic sometimes. I like the game and i was played allways on brutal but not as much as im going to pre-order it. There are many things i disliked in the game. There is no button to call my companions helping me out during hacking which resulted in death as allways no matter what i did. The other bad thing was the low framerate ( on PS4 ) and bugs, such as walking Hulk NPC in the same place or enemy clipping inside the walls. I liked the collectibles, the cosmetics and many gameplay animations but that is all. I was even seen 2D pixels behind windowed doors when i was climbed up with Black Widow. Yeah there is bound to be a fwe bugs given thisis a Beta not reqally a final build so some of it is likely to get fixed befoer release. Bu tyea hthe Side missionsdo look chaotic. I know I won' tbe playing it on Brutal difficulty as I believe that's the hardest one. TBH the onl yconcern I've go twit hthe game isthe loot system and such but outside of that I like what I'm seeing of the game. I've not played ityet though I have been watching quiet a fwe vids of those tha thavbe on youtube. Besides as I undrestand i tat least in the swide missionsif you miss somethin gor screw up then yo ucan at least try again as side content is replayable though. I don't know whether mainstory/single player campaign content is though. I have asked on twitter though I haven' t got a response
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Post by colfoley on Aug 23, 2020 19:39:00 GMT
So I decided to play Avengers and yes QTEs and button mashing is a thing...as is really pointless gear scores and gear. It is a 'looter shooter'.
Despite that though the game is fun. While it is down on my list I could now see me picking it up for a sale. Its definitely more of a casual play with friends game. The combat is fun and weighty and I really appreciate that each hero does play very unique to one another. So far I have to say Black Widow is the funnest to play...at least out of the available heroes that you can choose for the beta. I did love playing Thor during the introduction.
Going forward I do wonder about the other heroes and just how they will play and be integrated into any story content. And if you can earn any of the currency in game to or is it all real world money.
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