Your opinion of Dragon Age 4 releasing in late 2022 (possibly early 2023)

I agree (hehe because of age) but your correct they take years to produce a game now but sadly (pending whom you believe) the game lacks that what was the old Bioware DAI, ME3 and earlier  In my opinion, I'll not point fingers at anyone I'll let you all do that stuff happens  but really it would be nice to see a good quality game come out every 2,3 years

I voted for other as i don't expect the game to come out before 2024 and that is if we are lucky.

Also have no idea what kind of dragon age game it will become.

Sorry double post.

I am indifferent.


Dragon Age 4 will be like Shenmue 3. It will use some outdated approach that caters to the hardcore DA fanbase while at the same time trailing behind the quality of all other current RPGs that would have already been released around that time.

Ah, I see the narrative has already started. "Project Joplin" is slowly becoming the Dragon Age equivalent of Mass Effect's mythical "Dark Energy" plotline and how it would have been so much better than what everyone ended up with in ME2 and ME3 despite Drew Karpyshyn himself saying it was "eh".

"Project Joplin" could have been steaming plate of hot garbage. Problem is there is only dude who has even delved into it and that's Jason Schreier. A couple of other things he talked about on top of this was how rushed and dehumanizing the development of, not only "Mass Effect Andromeda" and "Anthem", but Game of the Year 2014 "Dragon Age Inquisition" and how years of indecision, whether it be "MEA's" attempt at using procedurally generated planets or "Anthem's" paralyzed vision in term of what type of game the devs wanted it to be, produced two games with a mixed reception.

Now, EA is allowing BioWare to clear the decks on "DA4" in regards to past development debt, crystallize a vision, and allow the time necessary to execute on it without, hopefully, driving people to stress leave in the process...yet, this is a negative somehow.

Let the fun begin...

Isn't that what people here are clamoring for and if BioWare does try and do something different it becomes "old BioWare did it better"? That is all I seem to see even when Andromeda or Anthem was released is the people online were wanting BioWare to make an outdated game that met their personal desires instead of making a game that is modern and uses modern approaches to what audiences are buying in video games.

I dont want Bioware to make an outdated game. I just want Bioware to stop focusing on online and make a strong single player experience. In addition especially for Dragon Age, I want it to return to the darker roots of DAO. There is some (maybe we are a minority) who felt DAI was too....sterile and safe compared to DAO. Bioware tried to not offend people which is why they made the certain design decisions such as removing brothels, removing desire demons, retconned some of the lore/rules of Qunari and much more.

I actually want DA4 to be good because outside of The Outer Worlds, you don't see many party based RPGs. However Bioware cant act like what worked in 2007 will work in 2022. We need day/night cycles, dynamic weather, morally grey choices/storytelling, mature narrative, dynamic NPC behavior, interactive environments and so on which is all hallmarks of modern open world games but Bioware still fails at.

I'm disappointed because I don't think Bioware will still be here in 2022/3.

people have been saying this since EA bought Bio...what, about a decade ago? And it still hasn't come to past.

I started seeing the "EA executing BioWare" memes years ago...and then they produced a Game of the Year. EA has owned BioWare since 2007 so I'm always amused by that take.

Check out the BioWare careers page...they are hiring a ton of people for both Edmonton and Austin sites. Doesn't look like they are winding down for either Dragon Age, Anthem or SWTOR

I'm expecting "Anthem 2.0/Next" sometime in the next year and then "DA4" a couple of years after that. I also expect Mike Gamble and Casey Hudson will cook up something for "Mass Effect". Hopefully EA learned from the success of "Jedi Fallen Order" that single-player games can make a financial dent, but, just like Activision, 2K, Rockstar, Epic, Take 2, and about any other publisher, they are going try to maximize their investment. They need to learn and it seems they learn by getting smacked in the nose by financial loss and fan backlash.

Ultimately, though, BioWare needs to make their case to EA if single-player focused games is what they want to produce. It was Aaron Flynn, BioWare GM who adopted the Frostbite engine for BioWare's games, not by EA pushing it on them...it was Aaron Flynn/BioWare that asked for the budget from EA to put multiplayer in to "Mass Effect 3"...it was under Aaron Flynn that the studio saw the rushed 16 month development of DA2, the awful crunch of DAI, the mismanagement of MEA and listless direction of "Anthem" after Casey Hudson left in 2014. It wasn't until Casey came back in mid-2017 and Mark Darrah/Mike Gamble came on board at the end 2017 that "Anthem" started to come together and actually made it out the door with a little over a year's dev time to complete.

I'm not worried about EA because, per sources, EA lets BioWare pretty decide their own fate. Now, "Anthem" is predominately in the hands of the devs in Austin, who are experienced with MMO/Live Service games and Mark Darrah, Patrick Weekes, Daniel Kaeding, John Epler, and a bunch of other Dragon Age vets are with the IP they've worked with since "Origins" so they are better positioned now then they've been in the past few years to not suck. Add that they are adding more resources to "Anthem's" development, giving "Dragon Age 4" long runway to launch, Mike Gamble, as "Mass Effect" game director, comfortably tweeting images of a Tempest model on a Normandy art schematic, and the general playfulness of Twitter lately, things could be worse.