Post by gervaise21 on Nov 4, 2019 19:51:20 GMT
I've been replaying the noble origin and this time it struck me even more that our mother's story about our father's recent visit to Orlais had to have been connected with Cailan's plan to divorce Anora and marry Celene. She maintains that the reason an Orlesian noble mistook our father for the king was that he was drunk. However, why would he even think that the king might be in the country? After the history between Orlais and Ferelden, it was highly unlikely that either monarch would be making a friendly visit to their neighbours. So clearly the noble must have been close to Celene and knew that the king's representative was visiting. I can't think any reason why Bryce would be visiting Orlais otherwise.
I know from a previous run that if we jump forward to our later confrontation with Howe in Denerim he accuses our father of being a traitor. Now if you are only playing the vanilla game this seem empty rhetoric but if you have played Return to Ostagar then you are aware of Cailan's overtures towards Celene and that Eamon had been encouraging him to put aside Anora, so it is possible that it was Eamon who also encouraged Cailan to start the correspondence with Celene. So it would seem like there was a conspiracy involving Cailan, Eamon and Bryce Cousland, the latter acting as go-between carrying the correspondence because Cailan didn't want to trust it to anyone else. Now only an innocent or an idiot would think that uniting the two countries by marriage would be a good thing for Ferelden. It was obvious that it would be used by Orlais in the future to annex Ferelden once more. In fact had the Chevaliers on the border been allowed admittance to "assist" with the Blight, it is entirely possible that once the Blight had been dealt with they would have taken the opportunity of occupying strategic locations, just as they had following earlier Blights in other countries. So carrying on like this behind the scenes without consulting with the Landsmeet was tantamount to treason. which is exactly what Howe accused Bryce of.
If you take Loghain with you to Ostagar he sounds as though he was unaware of the plot to marry Celene, although he makes his feelings on the matter very clear. However, when we are in camp at the beginning of the game we are told that the king was arguing with Loghain about the queen. We are never told exactly what sparked the confrontation but reading between the lines, it is probable that Cailan let slip about being advised to divorce Anora.
As things stand with the dialogue in the game even Anora suggests that her father has become paranoid about Orlais but in the light of the evidence Loghain's suspicions would seem justified. Whilst you can take the option to spare Loghain to join the Wardens, the one thing you can't do is agree with him or use the information you gained at Ostagar to discredit Eamon. If Return to Ostagar had been included in the main game (as it should have been) may be this would have been an option. So if it had been, would you have taken it?