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Incoming zealot/hater couple car fight : - See honey, I told you ! This drives like a Formula 1. - Yes, my dear, but we're on a dirt road. - Yeah, but listen at the sound isolation, we can't hear the motor at all. - That's because of the sound bug from 2013 Bioware/Dice still haven't fixed.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Nov 20, 2019 12:02:22 GMT
*Waits with popcorn*
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Post by githcheater on Nov 21, 2019 3:48:52 GMT
I hope the Anthem codebase is well documented and somewhat user friendly
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Post by Sanunes on Nov 24, 2019 1:55:24 GMT
I hope the Anthem codebase is well documented and somewhat user friendly I am in the hope that BioWare gets a person that has a deeper understanding of Frostbite to work on the team so they can give guidance for the creation of tools and won't be reassigned during development.
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Post by githcheater on Nov 24, 2019 3:15:27 GMT
I hope the Anthem codebase is well documented and somewhat user friendly I am in the hope that BioWare gets a person that has a deeper understanding of Frostbite to work on the team so they can give guidance for the creation of tools and won't be reassigned during development. Reassigned? ... Like to e-sports (FIFA, Madden etc)? ... I hope not, but I fear Bioware will not get priority, and be left to fend for themselves without much support from DICE.
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Post by Sanunes on Nov 24, 2019 3:57:33 GMT
I am in the hope that BioWare gets a person that has a deeper understanding of Frostbite to work on the team so they can give guidance for the creation of tools and won't be reassigned during development. Reassigned? ... Like to e-sports (FIFA, Madden etc)? ... I hope not, but I fear Bioware will not get priority, and be left to fend for themselves without much support from DICE. If the reports are correct during the development of Anthem they had two people from DICE helping out with the game and with I think it was six months before launch they were sent to FIFA.
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Post by saandrig on Nov 25, 2019 10:06:01 GMT
If the reports are correct during the development of Anthem they had two people from DICE helping out with the game and with I think it was six months before launch they were sent to FIFA. Well, EA knew when to cut their losses and try to improve the game that really matters. From what we saw of Anthem 6 months before launch, it was just about in the same state (and ironically missing some of the shown features when launched).
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Post by Sartoz on Dec 3, 2019 0:32:24 GMT
FB is a difficult beast to control with Anthem as its shining example and yet Bio still goes ahead and uses it. Wunderbar!
Hmpf! Bio saves a buck with the license elimination but created a super headache elsewhere. Another excellent example of mgt incompetence.
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Post by cloud9 on Dec 3, 2019 1:54:05 GMT
Then. Why. The. Hell. Did they used the engine in the first place??
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Post by cloud9 on Dec 3, 2019 1:56:12 GMT
I hope the Anthem codebase is well documented and somewhat user friendly I am in the hope that BioWare gets a person that has a deeper understanding of Frostbite to work on the team so they can give guidance for the creation of tools and won't be reassigned during development. Or just use Unreal Engine 4.
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Post by githcheater on Dec 3, 2019 2:00:39 GMT
FB is a difficult beast to control with Anthem as its shining example and yet Bio still goes ahead and uses it. Wunderbar!
Hmpf! Bio saves a buck with the license elimination but created a super headache elsewhere. Another excellent example of mgt incompetence.
Did Bioware have a real choice, or were they "strongly encouraged" to use Frostbite by EA corporate?
There are already 29 Frostbyte games released from a variety of studios with more to come ...
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 3, 2019 4:01:09 GMT
I am in the hope that BioWare gets a person that has a deeper understanding of Frostbite to work on the team so they can give guidance for the creation of tools and won't be reassigned during development. Or just use Unreal Engine 4. Why so they can use a game engine that has a different set of problems they will be unable to get around? Unreal isn't a perfect engine either, watching the video breakdown of Fallen Order by Digital Foundry they mention that Respawn isn't the first developer to run into I/O streaming issues causing freezing and stuttering. So do you think BioWare will be able to work around those issues or do you think they would run directly into them and have issues just like if they were using Frostbite just without two games of experience with it. Not to mention other developers at EA seem to be doing fine with Frostbite its just a BioWare issue because they don't have the tools they need to use to make their games. So that means they would have to go back and make all the tools they need for Unreal and hope they work out. Just because you read an article about "how hard Frostbite is to use" and I won't deny that, but it doesn't mean switching engines would mean that all of a sudden BioWare becomes proficient in making the tools they need to make their games.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Dec 3, 2019 6:49:54 GMT
*eats popcorn at last*
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 3, 2019 7:00:51 GMT
*eats popcorn at last* Popcorn is always good, did you put real butter on it?
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Dec 3, 2019 7:36:12 GMT
*eats popcorn at last* Popcorn is always good, did you put real butter on it? Yes, and some more salt
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Post by Gileadan on Dec 3, 2019 8:41:56 GMT
I didn't read the article, but is this the same Aaryn Flynn who previously stated that the decision to use Frostbite was made internally by BioWare (while he was General Manager, i.e. approved by him) and not mandated by EA and he still thought it was a good decision despite the troubles they had with Mass Effect Andromeda?
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 3, 2019 9:05:13 GMT
I didn't read the article, but is this the same Aaryn Flynn who previously stated that the decision to use Frostbite was made internally by BioWare (while he was General Manager, i.e. approved by him) and not mandated by EA and he still thought it was a good decision despite the troubles they had with Mass Effect Andromeda? That still fits with what he said in the article. All Aaryn Flynn was saying is that its a high performance game engine and with its performance requires work to get right. So it doesn't mean BioWare did or did not want to use the game engine just that it requires work to use. Then again in this day and age people want things just handed to them with no work, I had a kid interviewing for an entry level position and walked out mid-interview because he felt the job was beneath them and wanted to be in management with only graduating from post-secondary 18 months ago.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 3, 2019 9:06:16 GMT
Popcorn is always good, did you put real butter on it? Yes, and some more salt Buttered popcorn and butter flavored salt, sounds like a combination I can get behind.
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Post by Hrungr on Dec 4, 2019 3:26:56 GMT
I didn't read the article, but is this the same Aaryn Flynn who previously stated that the decision to use Frostbite was made internally by BioWare (while he was General Manager, i.e. approved by him) and not mandated by EA and he still thought it was a good decision despite the troubles they had with Mass Effect Andromeda? IIRC, they only had the option to choose a different engine for DA:I. But after that, they would have to move to Frostbite. So...
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Post by Sartoz on Dec 4, 2019 12:53:35 GMT
FB is a difficult beast to control with Anthem as its shining example and yet Bio still goes ahead and uses it. Wunderbar!
Hmpf! Bio saves a buck with the license elimination but created a super headache elsewhere. Another excellent example of mgt incompetence.
Did Bioware have a real choice, or were they "strongly encouraged" to use Frostbite by EA corporate?
There are already 29 Frostbyte games released from a variety of studios with more to come ...
Excellent question.
Anyone with two brain cells will acknowledge the 'strong encouragement' belief is a strong one, regardless of what EA and Bio mgt said. Proof is there for everyone to see and read. Add the fact that Bio continues to use FB with their next DA4 IP and a six year old can come up with the right conclusion.
Those that can remember Mike Laidlaw (DA:I) will know that even then, Bio mgt was focused on showing players the pretty graphics of the engine as opposed to focusing their efforts on the game play. Then comes Andromeda... finally Anthem and now Flynn's revelation (diplomatically said).
My conclusion is that DA4 will be eye candy galore (ie: 'cause of MP focus ... see DICE's games). I wish for a deep story driven game like DA:O... something I love and have replayed many a times even with the now dated graphics.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 4, 2019 13:15:22 GMT
Did Bioware have a real choice, or were they "strongly encouraged" to use Frostbite by EA corporate?
There are already 29 Frostbyte games released from a variety of studios with more to come ...
Excellent question.
Anyone with two brain cells will acknowledge the 'strong encouragement' belief is a strong one, regardless of what EA and Bio mgt said. Proof is there for everyone to see and read. Add the fact that Bio continues to use FB with their next DA4 IP and a six year old can come up with the right conclusion.
Those that can remember Mike Laidlaw (DA:I) will know that even then, Bio mgt was focused on showing players the pretty graphics of the engine as opposed to focusing their efforts on the game play. Then comes Andromeda... finally Anthem and now Flynn's revelation (diplomatically said).
My conclusion is that DA4 will be eye candy galore (ie: 'cause of MP focus ... see DICE's games). I wish for a deep story driven game like DA:O... something I love and have replayed many a times even with the now dated graphics.
The problem with what you are saying is that Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 1 were probably the strongest story based games in the franchise. They were still using Unreal for the later games it doesn't mean again Frostbite is the reason for the story to be less of a focus. Frankly my experiences with Andromeda and Inquisition and its story were close to my experiences with Mass Effect 1 just a little more exasperated for if you stick to the critical story path it feels pretty close to the other BioWare games its all the extra time you are stuck in the game due to it being so open ended dilutes the story experience.
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Post by cloud9 on Dec 31, 2019 16:08:41 GMT
I didn't read the article, but is this the same Aaryn Flynn who previously stated that the decision to use Frostbite was made internally by BioWare (while he was General Manager, i.e. approved by him) and not mandated by EA and he still thought it was a good decision despite the troubles they had with Mass Effect Andromeda? That decision fucked up Andromeda in the first place.
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Post by biggydx on Dec 31, 2019 16:28:36 GMT
I didn't read the article, but is this the same Aaryn Flynn who previously stated that the decision to use Frostbite was made internally by BioWare (while he was General Manager, i.e. approved by him) and not mandated by EA and he still thought it was a good decision despite the troubles they had with Mass Effect Andromeda? That decision fucked up Andromeda in the first place. I did my own little op-ed on the subject on reddit; prior to Anthems launch. www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/8a51uf/clarification_bioware_was_not_forced_into_using/
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Post by cloud9 on Jan 11, 2020 17:09:27 GMT
Or just use Unreal Engine 4. Why so they can use a game engine that has a different set of problems they will be unable to get around? Unreal isn't a perfect engine either, watching the video breakdown of Fallen Order by Digital Foundry they mention that Respawn isn't the first developer to run into I/O streaming issues causing freezing and stuttering. So do you think BioWare will be able to work around those issues or do you think they would run directly into them and have issues just like if they were using Frostbite just without two games of experience with it. Not to mention other developers at EA seem to be doing fine with Frostbite its just a BioWare issue because they don't have the tools they need to use to make their games. So that means they would have to go back and make all the tools they need for Unreal and hope they work out. Just because you read an article about "how hard Frostbite is to use" and I won't deny that, but it doesn't mean switching engines would mean that all of a sudden BioWare becomes proficient in making the tools they need to make their games. Ubisoft took advantage of Unreal Engine 2.5 and it looks advanced for PS3/Xbox 360 proves otherwise. And Inquisition and Andromeda run on Frostbite Engine, and it looks like complete pile of crap compared to Unreal Engine. So BioWare should use Unreal Engine to make things better and easier.
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