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Post by cmdrshep2183 on Jan 11, 2020 5:44:33 GMT
In the 90s up to the early 2000s we had TV shows set in space! Multiple Star Treks, Babylon 5, Space: Above & Beyond, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica, and Firefly! Ever since Battlestar Galactica ended it seems like space hasn't been as big in our culture as it was in the 90s! What happened? Was it the recession? After all there was no money for the space shuttle!
Or were there other cultural factors at play?
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Post by nopersdeviv on Jan 11, 2020 9:08:29 GMT
In the 90s up to the early 2000s we had TV shows set in space! Multiple Star Treks, Babylon 5, Space: Above & Beyond, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica, and Firefly! Ever since Battlestar Galactica ended it seems like space hasn't been as big in our culture as it was in the 90s! What happened? Was it the recession? After all there was no money for the space shuttle!
Or were there other cultural factors at play?
In the 90's there was a writers strike and the stations switched to making "reality" programs and other trashy shows. The Learning channel has switched over from educational programming, to air stupid crap like Sister Wives and all kinds of pseudoscience mockumentaries. I don't think it's been a loss of interest as much as it has been the fact that intelligent quality programming has been replaced by cheap, low budget bs.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 11, 2020 10:50:26 GMT
Maybe it has something to do with the traditional phenomenon of Sci-Fi having only a small female fan base while fantasy and other stuff has a very gender-balanced fanbase.
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Post by skekSil on Jan 11, 2020 11:52:53 GMT
In the 90s up to the early 2000s we had TV shows set in space! Multiple Star Treks, Babylon 5, Space: Above & Beyond, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica, and Firefly! Ever since Battlestar Galactica ended it seems like space hasn't been as big in our culture as it was in the 90s! What happened? Was it the recession? After all there was no money for the space shuttle!
Or were there other cultural factors at play?
Recently we had Expanse, Star Trek Discovery, Orville, Mandalorian, Killjoys, Dark Matter. Some of them are quite popular. Are you sure people lost interest in space?
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Post by nanotm on Jan 11, 2020 12:22:18 GMT
In the 90s up to the early 2000s we had TV shows set in space! Multiple Star Treks, Babylon 5, Space: Above & Beyond, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica, and Firefly! Ever since Battlestar Galactica ended it seems like space hasn't been as big in our culture as it was in the 90s! What happened? Was it the recession? After all there was no money for the space shuttle!
Or were there other cultural factors at play?
bsg ended in the early 80's, the remake didnt air until mid 00's, what exactly are you smoking? certain tv channels have continuously aired space based programming (even if its not mainstream timings) various movies have been released set in space, of course its a lot harder to make such things now than it was in the past since peoples expectations and viewing fidelity have increased whilst general IQ has decreased meaning its much harder to deliver something that is widely liked... of course the reason for this is the same as the reason why education has gone down the toilet, lack of competitiveness and inability to relate to reality generating unrealistic expectations.. blame the sock puppets who truly believe that everyone is a winner and that death cult members are not inherently bad people... all the proponents of social justice who are too stupid to understand its a logical fallacy (justice for one is discrimination against another at all times, and they are universally turkeys voting for Christmas ) join the CFSM (if you dont know what that is your not even a real space fan) and ignore societal downfalls whilst you spout red pills at every turn...
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Post by House Targaryen on Jan 11, 2020 19:17:12 GMT
Its just as well. Bad enough human parasites screwing up this world, we don't need to do the same on other worlds.
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Post by nopersdeviv on Jan 12, 2020 4:55:10 GMT
Maybe it has something to do with the traditional phenomenon of Sci-Fi having only a small female fan base while fantasy and other stuff has a very gender-balanced fanbase. I beg to differ. Maybe where you live there is a small female fanbase, but Over here there are many females who enjoy good sci-fi rogramming, but it's very rare to find a quality show. If it isn't reality tv, it's vampire soap operas or a lame ass show about rich people or cops. They completely destroyed the original CSI by making too many spinoffs and changing the show Criminal Minds format around season 4 (?) I think it was, really wrecked it. Basically they've taken good, intelligent shows and ruined them.
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Post by nopersdeviv on Jan 12, 2020 4:56:47 GMT
Its just as well. Bad enough human parasites screwing up this world, we don't need to do the same on other worlds. Not all people are parasites, the parasites are just strategically placed.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Jan 14, 2020 18:25:37 GMT
They didn't.
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Post by Coronavirus on Jan 15, 2020 2:26:10 GMT
Its just as well. Bad enough human parasites screwing up this world, we don't need to do the same on other worlds. Who hurt you?
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Post by mybudgee on Jan 15, 2020 4:11:34 GMT
Ugh... how does identity politics infect even the most benign of threads?
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Post by AnDromedary on Jan 16, 2020 21:00:38 GMT
In the 90s up to the early 2000s we had TV shows set in space! Multiple Star Treks, Babylon 5, Space: Above & Beyond, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica, and Firefly! Ever since Battlestar Galactica ended it seems like space hasn't been as big in our culture as it was in the 90s! What happened? Was it the recession? After all there was no money for the space shuttle!
Or were there other cultural factors at play?
Recently we had Expanse, Star Trek Discovery, Orville, Mandalorian, Killjoys, Dark Matter. Some of them are quite popular. Are you sure people lost interest in space? This. I do think there are still quite a few shows around and some of them are even better than whatever we got before (wink, The Expanse, wink).
I felt like there was a bit of dip in space opera tv shows during/after re-imagined BSG, that is true. Didn't BSG have massive costs in the end? I think maybe networks grew scared to produce massively expensive tv shows that - let's face it - cater to a fairly narrow target audience.
I for one am just glad that amazon kept The Expanse going. And while I haven't seen it yet, I hear The Mandalorian is doing quite well for Disney.
My hope is, that the other giants like Netflix and HBO might create or adapt their own franchises as well. For example, how about a series about the absolute SciFi/spce opera classic of all time: Asimov's The Foundation Trilogy? Or alternatively, I am currently reading Dan Simmons' Hyperion Cantos series. Just reading it, I could see a marvelous multi season tv series about it. There is so much stuff in there that would make for absolutely stunning visuals and it would be tv show and a scifi universe that has real depth to it. So many possibilities...
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Post by Lavochkin on Jan 17, 2020 8:24:43 GMT
I'm sad that we haven't gotten orbiters around Uranus and Neptune after all this time.
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Post by Phantom on Jan 20, 2020 14:19:24 GMT
Its just as well. Bad enough human parasites screwing up this world, we don't need to do the same on other worlds. Who hurt you? I know a guy that knows a scientist that needs bodies to do research on Virus....so any help would be nice.
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Post by Coronavirus on Jan 26, 2020 5:11:30 GMT
I know a guy that knows a scientist that needs bodies to do research on Virus....so any help would be nice. That’s great but I don’t fancy going to China thanks.
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Jan 26, 2020 22:11:28 GMT
Maybe people haven't lost interest in space?
It maybe only seems so, because of the West-hating activists who have come to dominate media by weaponizing fake victim-hood from race, gender, religion and sexuality?
You know, if you take your cues from the sanctioned narrative, Trump wouldn't have won the 2016 election, Gillette's commercial would have been a success instead of costing $8 billion in immediate loss of value and (reportedly) $5 billion in lost sales per quarter, Brexit wouldn't have meant a landslide victory for Boris, and Disney's Mary Sue -Star Wars would have been a huge cash cow instead of becoming a net loss of $3.2 billion for Disney. So obviously, a good deal of people have been thoroughly mislead. Maybe that's why they don't do any new SF-space shows?
Don't trust the image, of the world and people, that NYT, WP, CNN, MSNBC, Guardian, BBC and Hollywood feeds you.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 27, 2020 0:24:10 GMT
I'm sad that we haven't gotten orbiters around Uranus and Neptune after all this time. And especially Europa. Its like scientists are afraid to find actual life there so they avoid that moon altogether. Europa has water volcanos, so all they have to do is get an orbiter around that moon that captures some of that water and analyzes for microbes. The only highlight of this decade were the pics of Pluto.
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Post by Beerfish on Jan 27, 2020 22:09:21 GMT
We haven't been to the moon in almost 50 years. That is absurd. Instead we took ant colonies up to the space station to watch them scurry around.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jan 27, 2020 22:32:21 GMT
We haven't been to the moon in almost 50 years. That is absurd. Instead we took ant colonies up to the space station to watch them scurry around. As I once said, imagine a live moon landing with today's media technology. It would be marvelous. Imagine the cash sponsors would be willing to throw at NASA for a quick commercial for their product. Superbowl ads would nothing compared to this. But NASA always hems and haws about it not being possible....50 years later.
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Post by Coronavirus on Jan 28, 2020 1:04:04 GMT
I said to a woman once that I wanted to visit Uranus and now I have to stay more than 300 feet from her at all times.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 28, 2020 17:21:48 GMT
I said to a woman once that I wanted to visit Uranus and now I have to stay more than 300 feet from her at all times. You could always try probing it
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Post by mybudgee on Jan 29, 2020 0:59:31 GMT
I said to a woman once that I wanted to visit Uranus and now I have to stay more than 300 feet from her at all times. You could always try probing it [img src=" 66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxwi70nBaA1qjolbzo1_500.gif" alt=" " src="//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/CeRUIfXurYhaBmWjMBkt.png" class="smile"]
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Post by nanotm on Jan 29, 2020 17:14:43 GMT
I said to a woman once that I wanted to visit Uranus and now I have to stay more than 300 feet from her at all times. You could always try probing it best to just shag em normally and then have an accident …
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Post by clips7 on Feb 23, 2020 1:29:49 GMT
We haven't been to the moon in almost 50 years. That is absurd. Instead we took ant colonies up to the space station to watch them scurry around. Its probably not worth it....i was reading that the moon during the daytime, when the sun is hitting it can heat up to about 260 degrees and the area that isn't hit by sunlight can be as cold as minus 173 degrees.. Back when they landed on the moon i read that they had to land right at the point where the sunlight and the dark part of the moon met to try to balance out that issue, plus being that the moon has no atmosphere, even with special suits/equipment, you are still getting bombarded with dangerous ultraviolet/radiation rays.... For years folks have stated that "Mars" was the closet planet that humans could possibly populate, but even that would be an incredible challenge. Talks of building atmospheric colonies in general would sky-rocket the NASA budget well beyond trillions of dollars....i just think these aspects aren't feasible at the moment and our technology (while impressive) is nowhere near what we see in traditional sci-fi movies. Now i will admit...i was amazed when i first saw that facetime technology waaay back in the movie "Aliens"...back then i thought "no way in a million years will that happen"....those eyeball retina identity detectors that scan your eyes that you saw in those old sci-fi joints?....i too thought that was never going to happen and yet those technologies are very much a reality. Now i would be first in line if these tech heads can create a suit tailored after my beloved "Phoenix Vanguard"..smash/biotic charge/lash... ...went a bit off topic there....
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Apr 16, 2020 22:44:26 GMT
We haven't been to the moon in almost 50 years. That is absurd. Instead we took ant colonies up to the space station to watch them scurry around. Its probably not worth it....i was reading that the moon during the daytime, when the sun is hitting it can heat up to about 260 degrees and the area that isn't hit by sunlight can be as cold as minus 173 degrees.. Back when they landed on the moon i read that they had to land right at the point where the sunlight and the dark part of the moon met to try to balance out that issue, plus being that the moon has no atmosphere, even with special suits/equipment, you are still getting bombarded with dangerous ultraviolet/radiation rays.... For years folks have stated that "Mars" was the closet planet that humans could possibly populate, but even that would be an incredible challenge. Talks of building atmospheric colonies in general would sky-rocket the NASA budget well beyond trillions of dollars....i just think these aspects aren't feasible at the moment and our technology (while impressive) is nowhere near what we see in traditional sci-fi movies. Now i will admit...i was amazed when i first saw that facetime technology waaay back in the movie "Aliens"...back then i thought "no way in a million years will that happen"....those eyeball retina identity detectors that scan your eyes that you saw in those old sci-fi joints?....i too thought that was never going to happen and yet those technologies are very much a reality. Now i would be first in line if these tech heads can create a suit tailored after my beloved "Phoenix Vanguard"..smash/biotic charge/lash... ...went a bit off topic there.... Small steps. Worth it? Yea it's worth it. For the exact same reasons life has fermented, crawled and progressed on Earth for a billion years or so. For the same reason it was worth it to knack stones together, instead of spending all time searching for grub worms and digging up roots. There is no guarantees that we will establish humanity in space. But it's worth trying, worth taking the steps. If we don't expand our vision, our tools, our abilities, humanity will perish with absolute certainty, ...sooner. There is no "if" in major extinction events, like an asteroid impact, Yellowstone caldera eruption, or climate change, only "when", ...if we don't learn to do something about it. And that will take some doing so roll up your sleeves. Colonization of this solar system is much, much more difficult than people in general think. Extremely technical and capable, and self sufficient societies must evolve. The problems are much the same in a space station, on the Moon, or on Mars. ISS is worth it for getting back to the Moon in a meaningful way. Because we learn things and develop things we need to establish a sustained presence on the Moon. Being on the Moon is worth it, because we learn the things we need for establishing a presence on Mars. We should do all those things. I don't see just colonies on Mars as the immediate big goal. Space dwelling human societies is the goal. Establishing a sustained presence on Mars is worth it because "not all eggs in one basket", and by that time we should also be able to redirect asteroids. Maybe even cool a caldera. But what economic gains can possibly drive this long term and massive investment? - In short term: The tools, knowledge and powers we will gain as a direct consequence. If you don't think that will be a massive gain for the societies that undertake this, well... - When it's mature: The minerals and rare metals in the asteroid belt. Those which are extremely rare on Earth, and highly utilizable in various extreme high tech applications, are abundant there. It will help sustain and grow space dwelling societies. Going to Mars just to put a man there, like we did on the Moon 50 years ago, risk to just deflate it all. I think we need to take all the steps, build this from the ground up. It's also very risky to just send a human expedition to Mars, like that. I don't give the fast and "economic" ideas, I've seen yet, much chance of success. And after the tragedy, how long will it be before we get going again?
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