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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 9, 2020 12:29:00 GMT
I still haven't been exposed to anything that would explain all the controversy, but I'm aware that most of it stems from stuff further along in the story than where I am. I would just press ahead without any regard for 'external discussions'. The game's not huge (25-30 hours maybe). Have fun. Will be interesting to read your take once you're done.
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Post by cloud9 on Jul 25, 2020 8:28:50 GMT
People ain't by shit! 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆😆
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 25, 2020 9:47:34 GMT
Well, that's 2 minutes I'm not getting back (excellent piece of ELO aside).
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Post by cloud9 on Jul 25, 2020 11:48:46 GMT
Well, that's 2 minutes I'm not getting back (excellent piece of ELO aside). It's fucking funny, tho! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 25, 2020 13:41:17 GMT
It's fucking funny, tho! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 If you think so, you have my sympathies, but we all have different perceptions of comedy, I guess.
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Post by cloud9 on Jul 25, 2020 22:47:32 GMT
Are people really that sensitive over someone's opinion?? 🙄🙄🙄😑😑😑
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 25, 2020 22:55:50 GMT
Are people really that sensitive over someone's opinion?? 🙄🙄🙄😑😑😑 I have a hard time deciding if it was people being too sensitive or that people are weaponizing a false sensitivity to protect something they think is amazing.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jul 26, 2020 10:51:07 GMT
Are people really that sensitive over someone's opinion?? 🙄🙄🙄😑😑😑 Welcome to 2020.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 26, 2020 22:26:06 GMT
Are people really that sensitive over someone's opinion?? 🙄🙄🙄😑😑😑 Which people, Twitch? A YouTuber I'll admit I've never heard of is suspended for 8 hours for misplaced transgender comments. What's your point here? Are you taking issue with Twitch's moderation policy or the YouTuber's comments and why is that relevant to a discussion about TLOUII?
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jul 26, 2020 23:03:11 GMT
Here's a vid. To understand exactly what she said.
Twitch removed her ban after 8 hours. No explanations.
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Post by Noxluxe on Jul 27, 2020 2:06:22 GMT
Spent the past week methodically playing through part 1 on the PS4, and had a blast. It felt like I found the perfect balance between thorough scrounging and scrappy combat on Hard mode. Took my time and looked everywhere, opened every shiv door and every safe I came across and had a great time prioritizing and varying between weapons with limited ammo to go around.
I took the middle road of only relying on stealth to the point of tipping the odds in large encounters from "certain death" to "life and death struggle", and that just hit the spot. Huge, glorious, desperate fights where I always felt like I was cornered and running out of ammo, and yet never felt like I was completely out of options, even with Joel nine tenths dead and armed with nothing but a broken chair leg and some scraps against half a dozen runners.
A highlight was deciding to justify David's 'they met a crazy man traveling with a little girl' line in advance by spending the campus level running around ruthlessly burning enemy scavengers to death one after one with my shiny new and upgraded flamethrower.
Endure and survive.
That said, I originally started out in April intending to run the game on Grounded and ended up taking a rather long break. It was God of War Mode all over again, except I learned my goddamn lesson getting the platinum trophy in that game on that difficulty through stubbornness alone, only to realize that I'd have had a much better time on the difficulty below.
I need my games to be challenging to feel truly invested, especially in settings that are narratively supposed to seem supremely dangerous, so I usually shoot for the hardest difficulty right out of the gate. But there's 'Game Difficulty', and then there's 'Seriously, unless you're literal masochist or a video game savant looking to set a youtube record, this mode will ruin your enjoyment of the game. Don't do it.'
And I kind of feel like the latter kind of difficulty mode should be marked clearly as such? Instead of the typical "This mode is only for the truly insane, punishing beyond belief" rah rah which can mean anything from 'actually a little bit challenging' to 'very nearly impossible to beat'.
In any case, it was brilliant and satisfying and has gotten me in such a mood for more of the same. Think I'll be getting Days Gone now that it's on sale, while waiting for Part II to go the same way. I'm certainly getting it eventually, but definitely not at full price, even though I absolutely intended to after last year's E3. Call it my Joel tax.
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Post by cloud9 on Jul 27, 2020 8:12:25 GMT
Are people really that sensitive over someone's opinion?? 🙄🙄🙄😑😑😑 Which people, Twitch? A YouTuber I'll admit I've never heard of is suspended for 8 hours for misplaced transgender comments. What's your point here? Are you taking issue with Twitch's moderation policy or the YouTuber's comments and why is that relevant to a discussion about TLOUII? Why you're making a big deal out of me reporting it? They are sensitive when it comes with Last of Us 2, especially a fictional character that looks like a man. Look at journalists bashing fans for not liking the sequel. And when gamers love Ghost of Tsushima, journalists bash the game for so-called "cultural appropiation".
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 27, 2020 10:19:46 GMT
Why you're making a big deal out of me reporting it? I wasn't making a huge deal of what you shared, I was just trying to make any sense of the point you were making. To be fair, some of the bigoted 'fans' who took issue with TLOUII are well worth bashing (other fans made legitimate critical points about story structure). I can understand why Twitch might be 'sensitive' of people using slurs on their platform. I haven't seen Ghost of Tsushima fans criticised, that's an excellent game.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 27, 2020 13:09:32 GMT
Why you're making a big deal out of me reporting it? I wasn't making a huge deal of what you shared, I was just trying to make any sense of the point you were making. To be fair, some of the bigoted 'fans' who took issue with TLOUII are well worth bashing (other fans made legitimate critical points about story structure). I can understand why Twitch might be 'sensitive' of people using slurs on their platform. I haven't seen Ghost of Tsushima fans criticised, that's an excellent game. I also haven't seen people that don't like Ghosts of Tsushima called "bigots" or any other kind of "-phobe" either. I think its comparing apples to twinkies comparing anything about the two aside from them being video games.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 27, 2020 13:48:21 GMT
I also haven't seen people that don't like Ghosts of Tsushima Indeed. Ghost of Tsushima can be many things, excellent gameplay, if rather traditional and 'serious' as a game, but it would be hard to see that it's controversial. Whilst I very much appreciated TLOUII (played it twice) I'd would also credit that I'd struggle to characterise the game as 'playing safe'.
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Post by Gileadan on Jul 27, 2020 16:55:56 GMT
Ghost of Tsushima is controversial with game journos due to "cultural appropriation" while players (including Japanese ones who supposedly suffered said cultural appropriation) have no such problem with it.
TLOU2 played it safe with game journos, but is controversial with the player base.
Different target audiences - players on one side, journos/ideologues on the other.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jul 27, 2020 22:22:58 GMT
Ghost of Tsushima is controversial with game journos due to "cultural appropriation" while players (including Japanese ones who supposedly suffered said cultural appropriation) have no such problem with it. TLOU2 played it safe with game journos, but is controversial with the player base. Different target audiences - players on one side, journos/ideologues on the other.Well players pay to play. Journos / ideologues are paid to play.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jul 28, 2020 17:41:35 GMT
Finally finished TLOU2. Best game I've ever played, hands down. Ellie and Abby are two sides of the same coin, and watching them both react to the things they were doing to each other made for one hell of a story. And that ending...woah. I can see why it got such a high rating, can also see why some people aren't keen. I've never played a game that I loved this much though.
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Post by masterwarderz on Jul 28, 2020 23:52:46 GMT
Ghost of Tsushima is controversial with game journos due to "cultural appropriation" while players (including Japanese ones who supposedly suffered said cultural appropriation) have no such problem with it. TLOU2 played it safe with game journos, but is controversial with the player base. Different target audiences - players on one side, journos/ideologues on the other.Well players pay to play. Journos / ideologues are paid to play. A lesson that should have been known to everyone, industry included years ago with Gamergate but I suppose not
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 29, 2020 0:09:50 GMT
Finally finished TLOU2. Best game I've ever played, hands down. Ellie and Abby are two sides of the same coin, and watching them both react to the things they were doing to each other made for one hell of a story. And that ending...woah. I can see why it got such a high rating, can also see why some people aren't keen. I've never played a game that I loved this much though. 1. Didn’t realize your opinion of other games like Bioware’s were that low of you think this PoS is better than all others. 2. You need to play more video games if you think that.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 29, 2020 2:25:45 GMT
Ghost of Tsushima is controversial with game journos due to "cultural appropriation" while players (including Japanese ones who supposedly suffered said cultural appropriation) have no such problem with it. TLOU2 played it safe with game journos, but is controversial with the player base. Different target audiences - players on one side, journos/ideologues on the other. Care to provide any links? The only article I've seen that was anything less than a glowing review of Ghost of Tsushima was a Polygon piece that, quite correctly, points out that its portrayal of samurai and feudal Japan is reductive and historically inaccurate, and that the story lacks the depth of Kurosawa's work despite deliberately evoking/homaging his style (a point on which I cannot comment as I am not a student of Kurosawa or of film style in general).
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 29, 2020 7:00:44 GMT
1. Didn’t realize your opinion of other games like Bioware’s were that low of you think this PoS is better than all others. 2. You need to play more video games if you think that. 1. Didn't realise you had set yourself up as the arbiter of taste and quality for this forum? 2. You could be more open to different people playing and enjoying video games differently if you think that.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 29, 2020 8:30:21 GMT
Lol, it's super weird that some people have sustained their vitriol for this long about a game that in some cases they haven't even played.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jul 29, 2020 11:22:12 GMT
Finally finished TLOU2. Best game I've ever played, hands down. Ellie and Abby are two sides of the same coin, and watching them both react to the things they were doing to each other made for one hell of a story. And that ending...woah. I can see why it got such a high rating, can also see why some people aren't keen. I've never played a game that I loved this much though. 1. Didn’t realize your opinion of other games like Bioware’s were that low of you think this PoS is better than all others. 2. You need to play more video games if you think that. Hanako, peoples opinions aren't attacks on yours. Take a chill pill, you are very close to being the first person I block on here.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 29, 2020 11:35:16 GMT
Ghost of Tsushima is controversial with game journos due to "cultural appropriation" while players (including Japanese ones who supposedly suffered said cultural appropriation) have no such problem with it. TLOU2 played it safe with game journos, but is controversial with the player base. Different target audiences - players on one side, journos/ideologues on the other.Well players pay to play. Journos / ideologues are paid to play. Yeah reviewers aer pai dto play the games so that we get a taste rof what t oexpec twhen we pay to play them. I have the firs tone on PS3 though I don't have the second due t oth efact I went with Xbox this gen. If it ever got a PC release like HZD is about to I might though.
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