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Post by Hier0phant on May 2, 2020 15:52:34 GMT
On the subject of Druckmann's SJWism he's always been like that, but with Abby he just contradicts his prefered narrative style and it looks jarring. Druckmann prefers realism over the fantastical for the games he directs as evidenced by his Uncharted 4 vs Amy's Uncharted 1-3. Just look at Abby when compared to the all the other male characters in the games and she looks like a Marvel superhero. Unless she has a Myostatin mutation Abby's design makes no sense. How did she acquire a metric fuck ton of protein supplements when the last batches made should have expired in universe 20 years ago while high protein foods should be rare and in short supply. Abby's character design without a Myostatin related mutation being given for her appearance makes no sense and is at odds with the setting. The hilarious part is that in the bottom left picture the skin on Abby's left deltoid looks like a steroid rash, the character design is too memeable. Me personally i would have exiled Abby from the community for hoarding all the protein supplements.
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Post by therevanchist25 on May 2, 2020 15:55:50 GMT
The hilarious part is that in the bottom left picture the skin on Abby's left deltoid looks like a steroid rash, the character design is too memeable. Me personally i would have exiled Abby from the community for hoarding all the protein supplements. Really? then that begs the question. Did they just scan the arms of a big steroid guy and paste em onto her without caring about the optics of this, or are they seriously gonna make us believe people are still producing something as frivolous as Steroids in the post apocalypse?
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Post by General Mahad on May 2, 2020 16:01:11 GMT
Look at this world building:
A fully stocked modern gym in the resource scare zombie post apocalypse? Also is this suppose to be justification as to why Abby is buff? Lazy as well as kind of stupid.
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Post by Kymira on May 2, 2020 16:08:13 GMT
Did they just scan the arms of a big steroid guy and paste em onto her Abby's model is a body scan of athlete Colleen Fotsch.
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Post by SofaJockey on May 2, 2020 16:32:48 GMT
I enjoyed the first one. I'll certainly be playing this one at launch.
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Post by Hier0phant on May 2, 2020 16:41:23 GMT
I mean Aveline looked realistic. My issue with Abby's gains is the game's setting being a post apocalyptic one where the supplies needed to maintain her physique should be scarce or non-existent.
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Post by General Mahad on May 2, 2020 16:42:30 GMT
Did they just scan the arms of a big steroid guy and paste em onto her Abby's model is a body scan of athlete Colleen Fotsch. I hope it's not me but her trailer model and her in-game model seem different.
No one mistaked her for a dude in the trailer. As a fan of Metal Gear: Rising, I've been enjoying the memes (spoiler and possibly NSFW).
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Post by Hier0phant on May 2, 2020 16:57:44 GMT
The hilarious part is that in the bottom left picture the skin on Abby's left deltoid looks like a steroid rash, the character design is too memeable. Me personally i would have exiled Abby from the community for hoarding all the protein supplements. Really? then that begs the question. Did they just scan the arms of a big steroid guy and paste em onto her without caring about the optics of this, or are they seriously gonna make us believe people are still producing something as frivolous as Steroids in the post apocalypse? Logically steroids or protein powder shouldn't be in production or be usable due to any still existing stock expiring decades ago. Look at this world building:
A fully stocked modern gym in the resource scare zombie post apocalypse? Also is this suppose to be justification as to why Abby is buff? Lazy as well as kind of stupid.
Agreed and Abby's bigger than most of the men we have seen so far too. Unless Abby's a genetic mutant the vitamins and supplements needed to maintain her physique shouldn't exist while protein rich foods should be a scarce resource.
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Post by Hier0phant on May 2, 2020 17:07:07 GMT
Did they just scan the arms of a big steroid guy and paste em onto her Abby's model is a body scan of athlete Colleen Fotsch. Very suspect she doesn't look natty.
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Post by Hier0phant on May 2, 2020 17:45:31 GMT
Fotch... Versus crossfit athletes Loehner and Herrera who tested positive for banned substances. Very sketchy
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Post by Kappa Neko on May 2, 2020 18:23:46 GMT
My best friend went to the gym 6 days a week for two years doing mostly weight lifting and while she developed a bull neck (that she hated), she looked not even remotely like Abby. She still had plenty of fat over her abs. No such thing as a rock hard belly, not even that much muscle definition, and she half starved herself to keep the weight down ( she used to be quite overweight)... She still had a feminine body. And she lived for the gym really. Her entire mentality was wrapped around working out and getting strong. Eating lots and lots of protein and no sweets. It was HELL on her, it fueled her eating disorder, and she couldn't keep it up.
Is it even possible to get THAT buff as a woman without steroids? I have serious doubts. Even as a guy, that's quite an accomplishment, and in the post apocalypse? Right...
Abby now better be trans! Would make it at least a bit less ridiculous and stupid. A tiny bit.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 2, 2020 18:39:21 GMT
I mean Aveline looked realistic. More importantly, Aveline was a likable character. I suspect Abby may end up being one of the most hated VG characters in a long while.
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Post by General Mahad on May 2, 2020 22:52:41 GMT
I mean Aveline looked realistic. More importantly, Aveline was a likable character. I suspect Abby may end up being one of the most hated VG characters in a long while. Naughty Dog and Sony’s heavy handed censorship will definitely ensure that.
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Post by clips7 on May 3, 2020 1:10:29 GMT
Yeah..Abby is a bit more juiced up than usual and yes from what we can tell, she's bigger than most of the scraggly men we've seen so far.....the gym scene to somehow confirm Abby's physique is ridiculous. In this age, i can see working out in general, doing calisthenics and push ups or things of that nature and Abby can be and would be fit, but still feminine.....right now tho?.... ....give her a beard and i'm thinking she's about to cast the hammer of Thor...or maybe even this guy....
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Post by General Mahad on May 3, 2020 1:26:00 GMT
Holy hell, I've been reading several forums about this disaster and people are bringing up something extremely important:
How is Ellie allowed to kiss anyone if she can infect people thorough bites!?
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Post by Hier0phant on May 3, 2020 1:55:25 GMT
Huge spoiler don't open if you've been avoiding the spoilers, disturbing scene from leak...
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Post by Hier0phant on May 3, 2020 2:06:49 GMT
Holy hell, I've been reading several forums about this disaster and people are bringing up something extremely important: How is Ellie allowed to kiss anyone if she can infect people thorough bites!? True Marlene speculated that Ellie's an asymptomatic carrier but I think that's an unimportant detail for Druckmann who probably stopped caring at some point.
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Post by therevanchist25 on May 3, 2020 2:18:37 GMT
Holy hell, I've been reading several forums about this disaster and people are bringing up something extremely important: How is Ellie allowed to kiss anyone if she can infect people thorough bites!? True Marlene speculated that Ellie's an asymptomatic carrier but I think that's an unimportant detail for Druckmann who probably stopped caring at some point. Hey, you can't revive dead people from orbital re-entry either. It's incredible what happens to characters when the writer gives zero fucks about consistent narrative.
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Post by General Mahad on May 3, 2020 3:06:25 GMT
True Marlene speculated that Ellie's an asymptomatic carrier but I think that's an unimportant detail for Druckmann who probably stopped caring at some point. Hey, you can't revive dead people from orbital re-entry either. It's incredible what happens to characters when the writer gives zero fucks about consistent narrative. True.....
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Post by Hier0phant on May 3, 2020 3:50:10 GMT
True Marlene speculated that Ellie's an asymptomatic carrier but I think that's an unimportant detail for Druckmann who probably stopped caring at some point. Hey, you can't revive dead people from orbital re-entry either. It's incredible what happens to characters when the writer gives zero fucks about consistent narrative. The ME trilogy's a helluva drug.
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Post by slimgrin727 on May 3, 2020 5:19:10 GMT
Either way the blame is on the character artist regarding Abby. Maybe using that crossfit girl was a mistake. Ubi did a fine job with Kassandra. She's clearly muscular and looks like a fighter but she's still feminine.
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Post by Kappa Neko on May 3, 2020 7:49:13 GMT
Even Cass is a stretch for most women imo but for a ridiculous fantasy game it's fine I guess. That she looks that buff is a result of being PC though too, I'm pretty sure.
I went rock climbing for 10 months, twice a week several years back. Had a real talent for it too. I'm the scrawny type of person who doesn't grow muscles easily. I still had stick arms after 10 months! The only moderate muscle definition I obtained was in my calves. NONE of the female rock climbers, no matter how good, had buff arms. Some of the guys did, especially those that were into bouldering. But the women didn't look like they could hang upside down from the ceiling. Yet they could. They had tiny but strong muscles. Kind of like dancers.
That said, a friend went rock climbing like twice in a row one week and her forearms were already bigger than mine after ten months... That kind of pissed me off, lol. So body type plays a role. But still.
Pumped up muscles is a gym thing. It's not what you look like doing archery or other "regular" sports. Just Google "female olympics" and none look as buff as Cass either despite optimizing their bodies like crazy. So while Cass still looks good, her upper body could be a dude too.
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Post by cloud9 on May 3, 2020 15:46:28 GMT
Looks like Anita had her unfortunate influence in this game too: Remember how Druckmann said it's bad to sexualize your female characters? Spoilers: There's a scene where Daina and Ellie are making out in their underwear when Daina's ex-boyfriend catches them. Daina even dismounts Ellie with her ass being prevalent in the camera's gaze or male gaze was it?
Plus there's a scene with Ellie being topless from the back.
Also Abby apparently has a sex scene with the Hispanic dude I believe.
Part 1 had absolutely no female objectification or attempt at it whatsoever (not sure about the DLC though). All the women and girls were obviously feminine but practical. It worked perfectly.
But with Amy gone, Druckmann is letting his fetish for female violence and lesbian objectification out. Good grief will this guy stop with the madness?.. ....he was already spreading it on pretty thick in that teaser trailer when we first saw Abby...i initially thought that maybe she was Ellie's mom....but she gets rescued and y'know at the end when she's holding the ax and flexing her muscles?....i kinda knew what this was going to be...his comments tho?....i get it, it's an apocalyptic future and atmosphere, but gimmie a break.... images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51tuE6hHqSL._AC_.jpgI'm sure we all seen those girls on the street or around the way that may seem a bit on the lower class scale, but you can tell that they are cute or sexy as hell underneath all of that?....i'm sure there are plenty of women like that in the Last of Us world, but just listening to this guy speak?.....he seems like having those types of women in the game are objectifying them....lol...men like women and women like men...and newsflash some women even like men that are pretty athletic and put together,.....but they would never want to see that right? The way Megan looks in this pic, is a bit tom-boyish/dirty...but she is sexy as hell right?...nothing wrong with that..... likewise you have men that like men and women that like women, just don't act like it's bad or awful to see a fine women or a man....i understand ultimately he's trying to tell a story, but he's letting his politics get in the way of telling and possibly ruining a good story....all i'm saying is that both can exist without it being over the top as he is putting it.... Agreed.
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Post by General Mahad on May 3, 2020 17:43:24 GMT
Sony and shills are now saying it’s a hacker or someone completely uninvolved with development.
Let’s say that’s the case, then how come the leaks have the person responsible using dev tools? Did the hacker also leak the development software?
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Post by Vortex13 on May 3, 2020 17:46:12 GMT
Saw this video among all the hubub surrounding LoU2.
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