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Post by General Mahad on May 1, 2020 0:38:19 GMT
Looks like Anita had her unfortunate influence in this game too: Remember how Druckmann said it's bad to sexualize your female characters? Spoilers: There's a scene where Daina and Ellie are making out in their underwear when Daina's ex-boyfriend catches them. Daina even dismounts Ellie with her ass being prevalent in the camera's gaze or male gaze was it?
Plus there's a scene with Ellie being topless from the back.
Also Abby apparently has a sex scene with the Hispanic dude I believe.
Part 1 had absolutely no female objectification or attempt at it whatsoever (not sure about the DLC though). All the women and girls were obviously feminine but practical. It worked perfectly.
But with Amy gone, Druckmann is letting his fetish for female violence and lesbian objectification out.
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Post by clips7 on May 1, 2020 5:48:15 GMT
Looks like Anita had her unfortunate influence in this game too: Remember how Druckmann said it's bad to sexualize your female characters? Spoilers: There's a scene where Daina and Ellie are making out in their underwear when Daina's ex-boyfriend catches them. Daina even dismounts Ellie with her ass being prevalent in the camera's gaze or male gaze was it?
Plus there's a scene with Ellie being topless from the back.
Also Abby apparently has a sex scene with the Hispanic dude I believe.
Part 1 had absolutely no female objectification or attempt at it whatsoever (not sure about the DLC though). All the women and girls were obviously feminine but practical. It worked perfectly.
But with Amy gone, Druckmann is letting his fetish for female violence and lesbian objectification out. Good grief will this guy stop with the madness?.. ....he was already spreading it on pretty thick in that teaser trailer when we first saw Abby...i initially thought that maybe she was Ellie's mom....but she gets rescued and y'know at the end when she's holding the ax and flexing her muscles?....i kinda knew what this was going to be...his comments tho?....i get it, it's an apocalyptic future and atmosphere, but gimmie a break.... images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51tuE6hHqSL._AC_.jpgI'm sure we all seen those girls on the street or around the way that may seem a bit on the lower class scale, but you can tell that they are cute or sexy as hell underneath all of that?....i'm sure there are plenty of women like that in the Last of Us world, but just listening to this guy speak?.....he seems like having those types of women in the game are objectifying them....lol...men like women and women like men...and newsflash some women even like men that are pretty athletic and put together,.....but they would never want to see that right? The way Megan looks in this pic, is a bit tom-boyish/dirty...but she is sexy as hell right?...nothing wrong with that..... likewise you have men that like men and women that like women, just don't act like it's bad or awful to see a fine women or a man....i understand ultimately he's trying to tell a story, but he's letting his politics get in the way of telling and possibly ruining a good story....all i'm saying is that both can exist without it being over the top as he is putting it....
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Post by flyingovertrout on May 1, 2020 8:41:54 GMT
Lol, this thread is a shitshow. It's 2020 and we're still losing our minds over Anita and "SJWs ruining muh games", and drooling over Megan Fox. Christ Jesus, this is nerd hell.
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Post by clips7 on May 1, 2020 10:55:54 GMT
Lol, this thread is a shitshow. It's 2020 and we're still losing our minds over Anita and "SJWs ruining muh games", and drooling over Megan Fox. Christ Jesus, this is nerd hell. ....nobody's losin' it.... .....i've seen some vids of the game and its just disturbing....i'm still holding on trying to give the game a chance that its trying to tell a story, but the things i saw..was just...man idk. As far as the Megan Fox thing?....listening to this guy talk about how nice looking or sexy women are objectified is a joke...nothing wrong with displaying nice looking females on screen....both can exist since both exist in real life.... Just moreso now of the plot and how this thing just tells a story and how it plays out.....some of directions its taken, just has me baffled....
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Post by Psychevore on May 1, 2020 11:29:00 GMT
Gamers getting upset about Anita Sarkeesian. What a surprise. Cause gamers need a safe space to be alphas or some shit. Where murder is great, rape is a casual thing and gay people don't exist.
Fact over feelings or some nonsense. And the fact here is their feelings are hurt and everybody needs to know.
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Post by General Mahad on May 1, 2020 14:20:07 GMT
Gamers getting upset about Anita Sarkeesian. What a surprise. Cause gamers need a safe space to be alphas or some shit. Where murder is great, rape is a casual thing and gay people don't exist. Totally brah, let's bench press a keg and then have a fist fight in the rain with our shirts off.
One and a half hours of footage from a Polish videohosting site (anti-virus says it's good on my end but be wary):
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Post by Kappa Neko on May 1, 2020 15:20:20 GMT
Gamers getting upset about Anita Sarkeesian. What a surprise. Cause gamers need a safe space to be alphas or some shit. Where murder is great, rape is a casual thing and gay people don't exist. Fact over feelings or some nonsense. And the fact here is their feelings are hurt and everybody needs to know. Anita Sarkeesian is an annoying attention whore and anybody who jumps on her bandwagon is the same type of cyber drama queen. I'm female, now what?
What *I* want is to go back to telling stories where men and women are both COOL. But I'm sick and tired of "toxic masculinity" and "women are better than men at everything now, har har". This is being sexist right back and only makes things worse.
Women are NOT better men. And men aren't all violent and potential rapists.
If I could just see men and women working together again as human beings in a story, I'd be overjoyed. But such are not the times we live in. We're fighting a gender war with identity politics thrown in.
And this is why we have a she-hulk beating the toxic white male into a pulp... I'm sorry, but it doesn't get any more symbolic than that! This game is everything that's wrong with our western society imo. Yes, I'm making that statement based on an unreleased game. Sue me!
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Post by mugwump on May 1, 2020 16:31:00 GMT
Gamers getting upset about Anita Sarkeesian. What a surprise. Cause gamers need a safe space to be alphas or some shit. Where murder is great, rape is a casual thing and gay people don't exist. Fact over feelings or some nonsense. And the fact here is their feelings are hurt and everybody needs to know. Anita Sarkeesian is an annoying attention whore and anybody who jumps on her bandwagon is the same type of cyber drama queen. I'm female, now what?
What *I* want is to go back to telling stories where men and women are both COOL. But I'm sick and tired of "toxic masculinity" and "women are better than men at everything now, har har". This is being sexist right back and only makes things worse.
Women are NOT better men. And men aren't all violent and potential rapists.
If I could just see men and women working together again as human beings in a story, I'd be overjoyed. But such are not the times we live in. We're fighting a gender war with identity politics thrown in.
And this is why we have a she-hulk beating the toxic white male into a pulp... I'm sorry, but it doesn't get any more symbolic than that! This game is everything that's wrong with our western society imo. Yes, I'm making that statement based on an unreleased game. Sue me!
Aye, given that Anita's inability to talk reasonably about videogames has made her such a unpopular figure with large swathes of the game playing public, one wonders why developers continue to seek her council. Boggles my tiny little mind, that's for sure!
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Post by Hier0phant on May 1, 2020 16:37:04 GMT
On the subject of Druckmann's SJWism he's always been like that, but with Abby he just contradicts his prefered narrative style and it looks jarring. Druckmann prefers realism over the fantastical for the games he directs as evidenced by his Uncharted 4 vs Amy's Uncharted 1-3. Just look at Abby when compared to the all the other male characters in the games and she looks like a Marvel superhero. Unless she has a Myostatin mutation Abby's design makes no sense. How did she acquire a metric fuck ton of protein supplements when the last batches made should have expired in universe 20 years ago while high protein foods should be rare and in short supply. Abby's character design without a Myostatin related mutation being given for her appearance makes no sense and is at odds with the setting.
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Post by Psychevore on May 1, 2020 16:52:32 GMT
Gamers getting upset about Anita Sarkeesian. What a surprise. Cause gamers need a safe space to be alphas or some shit. Where murder is great, rape is a casual thing and gay people don't exist. Fact over feelings or some nonsense. And the fact here is their feelings are hurt and everybody needs to know. Anita Sarkeesian is an annoying attention whore and anybody who jumps on her bandwagon is the same type of cyber drama queen. I'm female, now what?
What *I* want is to go back to telling stories where men and women are both COOL. But I'm sick and tired of "toxic masculinity" and "women are better than men at everything now, har har". This is being sexist right back and only makes things worse.
Women are NOT better men. And men aren't all violent and potential rapists.
If I could just see men and women working together again as human beings in a story, I'd be overjoyed. But such are not the times we live in. We're fighting a gender war with identity politics thrown in.
And this is why we have a she-hulk beating the toxic white male into a pulp... I'm sorry, but it doesn't get any more symbolic than that! This game is everything that's wrong with our western society imo. Yes, I'm making that statement based on an unreleased game. Sue me!
What in the name of snowflakes is this? Who's saying women are better? Who's saying all men are violent? Everyone is a potential rapist. Every. Single. One. Of. Us. Because of the word 'potential', which literally applies to everyone who isn't a rapist now. You can see men and women working together in many games. Why are you not overjoyed? What makes Anita a she-hulk? Who's beating white males into a pulp? What is this overly hyperbolic nonsense? What is wrong with western society? You do a whole lot of screaming and hyperbole, but there's nothing of substance in here.
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Post by slimgrin727 on May 1, 2020 17:33:07 GMT
Anita is just a grifter, I doubt she's had any real influence on this game or any other.
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Post by Kappa Neko on May 1, 2020 17:50:48 GMT
Who's saying women are better? Who's saying all men are violent? There is a thread along those lines running through, let's say, 80% of what's coming out of Hollywood right now. Games are more and more like this too. In some cases it's subtle, in others it's blatant. If you can't see it, then good for you. It's working then! Even a game like The Outer Worlds that I overall enjoyed is full of this narrative that women are just better at everything. The number of male assholes or male incompetence was quite eye rolling, but I digress... And she-hulk wasn't referring to Anita. Try following the conversation if you want to contribute.
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Post by therevanchist25 on May 1, 2020 18:00:22 GMT
Anita Sarkeesian is an annoying attention whore and anybody who jumps on her bandwagon is the same type of cyber drama queen. I'm female, now what?
What *I* want is to go back to telling stories where men and women are both COOL. But I'm sick and tired of "toxic masculinity" and "women are better than men at everything now, har har". This is being sexist right back and only makes things worse.
Women are NOT better men. And men aren't all violent and potential rapists.
If I could just see men and women working together again as human beings in a story, I'd be overjoyed. But such are not the times we live in. We're fighting a gender war with identity politics thrown in.
And this is why we have a she-hulk beating the toxic white male into a pulp... I'm sorry, but it doesn't get any more symbolic than that! This game is everything that's wrong with our western society imo. Yes, I'm making that statement based on an unreleased game. Sue me!
What in the name of snowflakes is this? Who's saying women are better? Who's saying all men are violent? Everyone is a potential rapist. Every. Single. One. Of. Us. Because of the word 'potential', which literally applies to everyone who isn't a rapist now. You can see men and women working together in many games. Why are you not overjoyed? What makes Anita a she-hulk? Who's beating white males into a pulp? What is this overly hyperbolic nonsense? What is wrong with western society? You do a whole lot of screaming and hyperbole, but there's nothing of substance in here. And you are a man, who thinks he knows things about women and their struggle because you studied some shit. You have the gall to sit here and argue with a woman about sexist issues? get the fuck over yourself. Men need to shut up when it comes to womens problems.
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Post by Hier0phant on May 1, 2020 18:26:32 GMT
L...Look out, Ellie and Joel! The guy who stole my protein powder is above you!!!
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Post by river82 on May 1, 2020 23:02:02 GMT
I'm not going to get into the ton of stuff surrounding Anita Sarkeesian and her work. All people need to know about Anita is this: she was videotaped saying she's not a gamer, she's not a part of the fandom, she doesn't like games and she doesn't play games because she doesn't want to go around shooting people.
So somebody who doesn't play games and isn't a part of the fandom comes in and critiques games and their fandom. She hung around in games because people, for some reason, donated $159,000 to apply basic theories to video games on youtube.
But by her own admission she's not a fan of the medium, not a part of the fandom, and so what she says is often ... boring at best, missing the mark at worst.
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Post by river82 on May 1, 2020 23:30:00 GMT
It's just business for her. "Have a problem with perceived sexism in your videogames? Need to up your street cred? Never fear, Anita is here. For an exorbitant consultation fee I can sterilize your game, fix your reputation, and leave your company controversy free. Ring now on 1800-I-WON'T-SEND-MOBS-YOUR-WAY-IF-YOU-HIRE-ME."
Nothing wrong with that, earning a buck on your hard work is the American dream right? But people can spot a fraud from a mile away. Good thing CDProjekt consulted with her or they might have been in ALL SORTS OF TROUBLE ...
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Post by General Mahad on May 2, 2020 0:15:08 GMT
Looks like Sony is DMCAing everyone who even talks about the leaked footage.
Guess that desperation is growing wildly.
Also there's this:
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Post by Hier0phant on May 2, 2020 3:06:02 GMT
Looks like Sony is DMCAing everyone who even talks about the leaked footage. Guess that desperation is growing wildly. Also there's this: F Regardless of their motivations they saved countless people from being duped.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 2, 2020 4:55:51 GMT
I look forward to seeing reactions to the final product. I hope it’s as horrible as I’ve read, and is reviled in perpetuity throughout the universe, because being stuck in the house all month has made me grow bored and in need of morbid entertainment.
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Post by shaqfu on May 2, 2020 6:07:18 GMT
I enjoyed the first game but wasn't one of the people who thought it was utterly amazing. So I was already on a wait and see approach for the next one. Now after seeing the leaks myself all i can say is I'm def gonna pass on this one.
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Post by smilesja on May 2, 2020 15:26:11 GMT
Anita is just a grifter, I doubt she's had any real influence on this game or any other. I know people are just looking for an easy scapegoat when the most obvious thing to blame is Neil's mistreatment of his employees and the terrible work environments. Sadly this will get drowned out by SJW nonsense.
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Post by smilesja on May 2, 2020 15:29:28 GMT
Who's saying women are better? Who's saying all men are violent? There is a thread along those lines running through, let's say, 80% of what's coming out of Hollywood right now. Games are more and more like this too. In some cases it's subtle, in others it's blatant. If you can't see it, then good for you. It's working then! Even a game like The Outer Worlds that I overall enjoyed is full of this narrative that women are just better at everything. The number of male assholes or male incompetence was quite eye rolling, but I digress... And she-hulk wasn't referring to Anita. Try following the conversation if you want to contribute. No offense, it really sounds a crazy conspiracy theory.
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Post by smilesja on May 2, 2020 15:32:17 GMT
On the subject of Druckmann's SJWism he's always been like that, but with Abby he just contradicts his prefered narrative style and it looks jarring. Druckmann prefers realism over the fantastical for the games he directs as evidenced by his Uncharted 4 vs Amy's Uncharted 1-3. Just look at Abby when compared to the all the other male characters in the games and she looks like a Marvel superhero. Unless she has a Myostatin mutation Abby's design makes no sense. How did she acquire a metric fuck ton of protein supplements when the last batches made should have expired in universe 20 years ago while high protein foods should be rare and in short supply. Abby's character design without a Myostatin related mutation being given for her appearance makes no sense and is at odds with the setting.
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Post by therevanchist25 on May 2, 2020 15:46:22 GMT
On the subject of Druckmann's SJWism he's always been like that, but with Abby he just contradicts his prefered narrative style and it looks jarring. Druckmann prefers realism over the fantastical for the games he directs as evidenced by his Uncharted 4 vs Amy's Uncharted 1-3. Just look at Abby when compared to the all the other male characters in the games and she looks like a Marvel superhero. Unless she has a Myostatin mutation Abby's design makes no sense. How did she acquire a metric fuck ton of protein supplements when the last batches made should have expired in universe 20 years ago while high protein foods should be rare and in short supply. Abby's character design without a Myostatin related mutation being given for her appearance makes no sense and is at odds with the setting. Even Aveline wasn't like THAT, it just looks...unnatural. I've seen women body builders in person. They don't look anything like that without Steroids. I just don't get it.
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Post by smilesja on May 2, 2020 15:51:11 GMT
I mean Aveline looked realistic.
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