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Post by garrusfan1 on Feb 22, 2020 3:15:51 GMT
I don't know why but I just feel like bioware will release the next ME game before the next Dragon age game. They are already talking about it a little and if bioware is releasing the next dragon age game in late 2002 or early 2023 that means they are going almost three years without releasing another game. It would make some sense to keep the next ME game under wraps for the most part until a year before release so people stay excited for it or to keep spoilers down a bit.
Again no proof and I might be wrong but it's just a feeling I have. Thoughts
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 22, 2020 4:17:04 GMT
Depends. Would "the next ME game" include a trilogy remaster? I can see Bio popping that out fairly quickly.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 22, 2020 13:12:37 GMT
I disagree for they have talked more about Dragon Age and released more official information for the next Dragon Age game over anything regarding Mass Effect. Yes they have said "we have plans for Mass Effect", but that is all. It takes years to make a video game and EA has talked about it being at least 2022/2023 for Dragon Age, but acknowledged they are working on it. Nothing can be said about Mass Effect in that regard.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 14:21:53 GMT
I don't know why but I just feel like bioware will release the next ME game before the next Dragon age game. They are already talking about it a little and if bioware is releasing the next dragon age game in late 2002 or early 2023 that means they are going almost three years without releasing another game. It would make some sense to keep the next ME game under wraps for the most part until a year before release so people stay excited for it or to keep spoilers down a bit.
Again no proof and I might be wrong but it's just a feeling I have. Thoughts
Wishful thinking on your part, me thinks. I agree with alanc9, I can see some sort of Trilogy remaster possibly coming out sometime after the new consoles are released, but it will be a remaster, perhaps with an upgrade of some of the combat mechanics. It won't be a remake of the story at all. They may also release some other alternative media (another book or comic... that sort of thing). We won't see a new Mass Effect game until after DA4 is released... probably at least 3 years after DA4 is released.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 22, 2020 14:22:10 GMT
I disagree for they have talked more about Dragon Age and released more official information for the next Dragon Age game over anything regarding Mass Effect. Yes they have said "we have plans for Mass Effect", but that is all. It takes years to make a video game and EA has talked about it being at least 2022/2023 for Dragon Age, but acknowledged they are working on it. Nothing can be said about Mass Effect in that regard. Yeah they've already started work on DA and a provisional date planned so it's evidentto me that DA is their main focus now not ME. The only I can see ME mayb ejumping the gun is wit ha remaste rof he rtilogy. Which I don't think is cfoming atm so I don' tsee a new ME coming ahead of it. Granted it's still a few years off yet but unless they say something to th econtrary I believe DA is the main goal for the immediate future not ME.
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Post by urkibalurki on Feb 22, 2020 15:10:04 GMT
I don't know why but I just feel like bioware will release the next ME game before the next Dragon age game. They are already talking about it a little and if bioware is releasing the next dragon age game in late 2002 or early 2023 that means they are going almost three years without releasing another game. It would make some sense to keep the next ME game under wraps for the most part until a year before release so people stay excited for it or to keep spoilers down a bit.
Again no proof and I might be wrong but it's just a feeling I have. Thoughts
Depends. Would "the next ME game" include a trilogy remaster? I can see Bio popping that out fairly quickly. I think you're both champions of wishful thinking. I agree with Sanunes: they talked very much about Dragon Age and said nothing about Mass Effect. And: a remaster? No, thanks. The old trilogy has already been "remastered": by modders. Play the three games with a fuckton of mods (like ALOT) and see the difference. If the guys at Bioware had to waste time and resources to make a remaster they would never come out with a NEW game.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 22, 2020 15:42:45 GMT
And: a remaster? No, thanks. The old trilogy has already been "remastered": by modders. Play the three games with a fuckton of mods (like ALOT) and see the difference. If the guys at Bioware had to waste time and resources to make a remaster they would never come out with a NEW game. I think if there was to ever be a remaster of a BioWare game it wouldn't be done by BioWare themselves, it would be contracted out to some small or moderate sized studio like most ports. Mostly due to so much of the game being the same that I don't think they would bother having BioWare reproduce something over creating something new. It also would have the benefit of not being done by BioWare so they might remove some of the instant dislike for the game because people wouldn't have all their personal issues with the game resolved.
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Post by urkibalurki on Feb 22, 2020 16:21:18 GMT
And: a remaster? No, thanks. The old trilogy has already been "remastered": by modders. Play the three games with a fuckton of mods (like ALOT) and see the difference. If the guys at Bioware had to waste time and resources to make a remaster they would never come out with a NEW game. I think if there was to ever be a remaster of a BioWare game it wouldn't be done by BioWare themselves, it would be contracted out to some small or moderate sized studio like most ports. Mostly due to so much of the game being the same that I don't think they would bother having BioWare reproduce something over creating something new. It also would have the benefit of not being done by BioWare so they might remove some of the instant dislike for the game because people wouldn't have all their personal issues with the game resolved. As I said, work already done by volunteers, at zero cost. No need for Bioware to subcontract a remaster to some small studio. Besides, no one at Bioware ever talked about remastering any of their games; "plans" about ME imply making a new game. Or maybe they changed their modus operandi recently; but I think they didn't. (N.B.: wrong quotation above: that was me)
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 22, 2020 17:30:29 GMT
Well, I was assuming that a market exists among the console peasants. On PC, yeah, I don't see much of a case.
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Post by Polka Dot on Feb 22, 2020 17:36:30 GMT
Well, I was assuming that a market exists among the console peasants. On PC, yeah, I don't see much of a case. My thoughts exactly - and I believe the console peasants comprise the bulk of the audience, by a pretty big margin.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 22, 2020 19:05:12 GMT
Well, I was assuming that a market exists among the console peasants. On PC, yeah, I don't see much of a case. Its why I will never be against some type of re-release of the game with tweaked graphical settings and I doubt it would be anything like modders have made, but just giving the PC level of graphical fidelity to console owners.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Feb 22, 2020 22:31:11 GMT
I don't know why but I just feel like bioware will release the next ME game before the next Dragon age game. They are already talking about it a little and if bioware is releasing the next dragon age game in late 2002 or early 2023 that means they are going almost three years without releasing another game. It would make some sense to keep the next ME game under wraps for the most part until a year before release so people stay excited for it or to keep spoilers down a bit.
Again no proof and I might be wrong but it's just a feeling I have. Thoughts
Depends. Would "the next ME game" include a trilogy remaster? I can see Bio popping that out fairly quickly. I think you're both champions of wishful thinking. I agree with Sanunes : they talked very much about Dragon Age and said nothing about Mass Effect. And: a remaster? No, thanks. The old trilogy has already been "remastered": by modders. Play the three games with a fuckton of mods (like ALOT) and see the difference. If the guys at Bioware had to waste time and resources to make a remaster they would never come out with a NEW game. I don't see the point of a remaster unless they change or add stuff to it that effects the story. With the exception of ME1 the trilogy isn't way behind what we have now. Also while PC gamers have mods people who play on consoles don't.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 23, 2020 17:26:48 GMT
I think you're both champions of wishful thinking. I agree with Sanunes : they talked very much about Dragon Age and said nothing about Mass Effect. And: a remaster? No, thanks. The old trilogy has already been "remastered": by modders. Play the three games with a fuckton of mods (like ALOT) and see the difference. If the guys at Bioware had to waste time and resources to make a remaster they would never come out with a NEW game. I don't see the point of a remaster unless they change or add stuff to it that effects the story. With the exception of ME1 the trilogy isn't way behind what we have now. Also while PC gamers have mods people who play on consoles don't. I cannot see BioWare wanting to go down that rabbit's hole. I remember with the endings to ME3 the amount of complaining about how BioWare didn't fix them right and the reasons were all over the place because it wasn't fixed the way they wanted it. Going back and making alterations to the original trilogy I think would be the same thing of "why didn't you change this horrible thing" or "why did you change this it was my favorite part" and just being nothing more then a no win situation.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 23, 2020 17:33:19 GMT
I don't see the point of a remaster unless they change or add stuff to it that effects the story. With the exception of ME1 the trilogy isn't way behind what we have now. Also while PC gamers have mods people who play on consoles don't. I cannot see BioWare wanting to go down that rabbit's hole. I remember with the endings to ME3 the amount of complaining about how BioWare didn't fix them right and the reasons were all over the place because it wasn't fixed the way they wanted it. Going back and making alterations to the original trilogy I think would be the same thing of "why didn't you change this horrible thing" or "why did you change this it was my favorite part" and just being nothing more then a no win situation. Yeah that's one of the main reasons why I think they'd be best leaving it alon eand just continue with Andromeda for now. I thin kfor now of the 2 options that is the least risky. Because I think at the very least those that enjoyed MEA wil l likely come back for an Andromeda 2 so will at least get their backing.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Feb 23, 2020 21:40:23 GMT
I don't see the point of a remaster unless they change or add stuff to it that effects the story. With the exception of ME1 the trilogy isn't way behind what we have now. Also while PC gamers have mods people who play on consoles don't. I cannot see BioWare wanting to go down that rabbit's hole. I remember with the endings to ME3 the amount of complaining about how BioWare didn't fix them right and the reasons were all over the place because it wasn't fixed the way they wanted it. Going back and making alterations to the original trilogy I think would be the same thing of "why didn't you change this horrible thing" or "why did you change this it was my favorite part" and just being nothing more then a no win situation. I'm not in favor of a remaster unless it changes something to the story and even then unless it changes the endings I would rather them just make another mass effect rather then waste time. (in my opinion). However while alot of people may complain there are always people who will complain. So as long as it sells I don't see anyone making the game or financing it really being bothered. However it needs to be said that while most people complain about stuff it doesn't really effect sales unless it's something like andromeda having a ton of glitches and that horrible face animation. Or DA2's Glitches and reused enviroments. I liked both games and I love DA2 but the problems people complained about aren't something you could really argue about like the story is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 22:12:33 GMT
I cannot see BioWare wanting to go down that rabbit's hole. I remember with the endings to ME3 the amount of complaining about how BioWare didn't fix them right and the reasons were all over the place because it wasn't fixed the way they wanted it. Going back and making alterations to the original trilogy I think would be the same thing of "why didn't you change this horrible thing" or "why did you change this it was my favorite part" and just being nothing more then a no win situation. I'm not in favor of a remaster unless it changes something to the story and even then unless it changes the endings I would rather them just make another mass effect rather then waste time. (in my opinion). However while alot of people may complain there are always people who will complain. So as long as it sells I don't see anyone making the game or financing it really being bothered. However it needs to be said that while most people complain about stuff it doesn't really effect sales unless it's something like andromeda having a ton of glitches and that horrible face animation. Or DA2's Glitches and reused enviroments. I liked both games and I love DA2 but the problems people complained about aren't something you could really argue about like the story is. That makes absolutely no sense. You're talking in circles. You say you won't buy a remaster unless they change the story. You're complaining about the ME3 endings. Yet, in the very next breath you say the only thing that affects sales are glitches and not the story. What happens if they do change the story and endings... but it's in a way you don't agree with? What if, say, they wind up making a Shepard who is more "Ryder-like." (a strong possibility since it would be "new Bioware" doing the writing now). If it's only glitches that affect sales, then all they should have to do with the OT is clean up its many glitches - head spinning, Garrus falling through the floor of the elevator on the Citadel, NPC's not showing up during the final scene after shooting Udina, ditto occurrence during the Ex-Cerberus Scientists mission, getting stuck in the CIC during ME1, Liara throwing enemies outside the playing boundaries, enemies spawning inside walls, sound files getting cut short (something that now happens frequently on the Xbox One thanks to backwards compatibility), Shepard floating in ME2... I could go on.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Feb 24, 2020 0:35:45 GMT
I'm not in favor of a remaster unless it changes something to the story and even then unless it changes the endings I would rather them just make another mass effect rather then waste time. (in my opinion). However while alot of people may complain there are always people who will complain. So as long as it sells I don't see anyone making the game or financing it really being bothered. However it needs to be said that while most people complain about stuff it doesn't really effect sales unless it's something like andromeda having a ton of glitches and that horrible face animation. Or DA2's Glitches and reused enviroments. I liked both games and I love DA2 but the problems people complained about aren't something you could really argue about like the story is. That makes absolutely no sense. You're talking in circles. You say you won't buy a remaster unless they change the story. You're complaining about the ME3 endings. Yet, in the very next breath you say the only thing that affects sales are glitches and not the story. What happens if they do change the story and endings... but it's in a way you don't agree with? What if, say, they wind up making a Shepard who is more "Ryder-like." (a strong possibility since it would be "new Bioware" doing the writing now). If it's only glitches that affect sales, then all they should have to do with the OT is clean up its many glitches - head spinning, Garrus falling through the floor of the elevator on the Citadel, NPC's not showing up during the final scene after shooting Udina, ditto occurrence during the Ex-Cerberus Scientists mission, getting stuck in the CIC during ME1, Liara throwing enemies outside the playing boundaries, enemies spawning inside walls, sound files getting cut short (something that now happens frequently on the Xbox One thanks to backwards compatibility), Shepard floating in ME2... I could go on.
Well I wouldn't buy a remaster since I have played the game so much I don't see the point in just buying a more advanced version. As for the ending I didn't like it I admit that. What I was saying about complaining is that you will always have people complain about something. However how good a story is is subjective. Two people can watch the same movie and one can think the story was amazing and the other can hate it. Which one is right? It's the same with video game writing and such. Now if it has a ton of glitches or horrific graphics and animations and so on everyone can agree it's horrible since it isn't subjective if there is alot of it. If you buy a remaster that has no story changes then the game is the same just with better gameplay and graphics. If they make an entire new game on the other hand then the story is new and up for fresh complaints and arguments about the story.
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Post by GimmeMassEffect on Mar 9, 2020 22:23:42 GMT
Unless we're keeping fingers crossed for ME1-3 remaster, I think there is 0,01% chance only for next ME game before next DA. The only way I would see next ME coming before DA, is where EA dumps DA franchise whatsoever to let it collect dust on the shelf. IMO we gotta wait ~4 years to have a chance at playing next ME and even that is a wishful thinking.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 10, 2020 22:19:43 GMT
I am a ME fan first and foremost but a DA game is long overdue. Unfortunately I dont think we will be getting anything new in either franchise in the next couple of years. Being optimistic I would say we might get a DA game in 2 years and an ME game in 4 years.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Mar 11, 2020 13:47:54 GMT
I'm pretty much in the camp that "if" mass effect gets put in before DA, it'll be a remaster and not a new game.
Also remasters really don't take a whole studio to do it so bioware can still have the bulk doing a new project and a skeleton crew simply upping the looks of something that's already put together for them. I myself wouldn't call it a waste of time because it's easy cash and puts some of the audience at ease for a while at least and you're still working on the newer projects for those not interested in a remaster.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 23, 2020 14:39:02 GMT
ME would need more development time. We know what happens when they don't get it. Or, rather, when they don't use it. I want DA first, mainly because I want to see if they're doing Live Service. If so, I'm done with BioWare and a new ME game is off the table for me.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 23, 2020 14:43:42 GMT
I'm pretty much in the camp that "if" mass effect gets put in before DA, it'll be a remaster and not a new game. Also remasters really don't take a whole studio to do it so bioware can still have the bulk doing a new project and a skeleton crew simply upping the looks of something that's already put together for them. I myself wouldn't call it a waste of time because it's easy cash and puts some of the audience at ease for a while at least and you're still working on the newer projects for those not interested in a remaster. I love the combat system in ME1. Changing it would essentially make it a new game. A Shep with biotic charge wouldn't even remotely care about the mines on Asteroid X57 which you have to carefully dodge as it is now. You'd be smacking down a batarian before the first mine was even triggered. The array of guns choices, mods and armor would be lost, as would the ability to make use of a weapon outside of your major skill set. ME2-3 just don't allow it at all. I don't know. There's a certain charm to ME1 that I'd hate to see lost in a remaster.
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