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Post by Felya87 on Apr 23, 2020 16:43:23 GMT
... Tevinter Nights seem to disagree here... Really? You have a quote or something?  I have thought they are done after Corypheus. Also does this really change that much for Calpernia?
I doubt that Venatori give her another chance as leader.
I still haven't finished all the Tevinter Nights stories, but in two stories are present. They may be unorganized, waiting for a new leader, but are definitely present in Tevinter.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 23, 2020 16:47:06 GMT
Thanks, but I was genuinely curious when I asked that. I get the second since TLJ is a divisive movie, but didn't get the first.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 23, 2020 16:48:13 GMT
I still haven't finished all the Tevinter Nights stories, but in two stories are present. They may be unorganized, waiting for a new leader, but are definitely present in Tevinter. I don´t think that the Venatori are much of a threat than in DAI. Maybe but don´t they lost their purpose with Corypheus?
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Post by linksocarina on Apr 23, 2020 16:49:05 GMT
I still haven't finished all the Tevinter Nights stories, but in two stories are present. They may be unorganized, waiting for a new leader, but are definitely present in Tevinter. I don´t think that the Venatori are much of a threat than in DAI. Maybe but don´t they lost their purpose with Corypheus? Or just underground, like most cults.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 23, 2020 16:50:00 GMT
If Harding and Vaea are too similar to both be companions, then Maevaris and Calpernia are definitely too similar to both be companions. They aren't like Wynne and Morrigan. You can't have your argument both ways. How can you possible believe that Mae and Calpernia are too similiar? In my original post i have explained this.
In a nutsheel Mae is moderate reformer and slave owner. Calpernia is a former slave who joined an ancient Magister to reform Tevinter radical. Calpernia want to free all slaves. So yeah they could be DA 4 next Wynne (Mae) and Morrigan (Calpernia).
So both are the same sex, same background, same class, have the same overall goal, and many similar personality traits. The only discernible difference is their methods. They have far more in common than the two you're opposed to. For it to be as different as Wynne and Morrigan, the other mage would have to be like a Tal-Vashoth Saarebas or Rivaini Seer or something.
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Post by Felya87 on Apr 23, 2020 16:53:44 GMT
I still haven't finished all the Tevinter Nights stories, but in two stories are present. They may be unorganized, waiting for a new leader, but are definitely present in Tevinter. I don´t think that the Venatori are much of a threat than in DAI. Maybe but don´t they lost their purpose with Corypheus? The purpouse was to bring Tevinter to his golden age again. There is no need for Cory to be there. And since Venatori are mages, many blood mages too, I doubt they'll have any difficulty bringing problems for everyone. Plus, many members are part of the influent families of Minratous. Is the classic enemy inside for Tevinter.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 23, 2020 16:58:57 GMT
So both are the same sex, same background, same class, have the same overall goal, and many similar personality traits. The only discernible difference is their methods. They have far more in common than the two you're opposed to. For it to be as different as Wynne and Morrigan, the other mage would have to be like a Tal-Vashoth Saarebas or Rivaini Seer or something. Yes both are female mages (Mae is biological male) but they clearly haven´t same background as goals.
Mae comes from a rich noble family while Calpernia is a former slave. Big difference. And lets not forget that Calpernia big end goal is the end of all slavery in Thedas. Mae doesn´t seem interested in freeing the slaves. I am sorry but Mae as a lot in common with Dorian than with Calpernia.
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Post by Mithras on Apr 23, 2020 16:59:23 GMT
I'm going to quote Cole here.
"You couldn't help the bandits. Some people have to die. Being happy for your skill doesn't make you cruel. "
There is a difference between finding satisfaction in your skill and whatever makes someone make this face after killing somebody. Also where does he say that? Is there? Sure, smiles can be creepy but that strikes as an harmless one.
Also, it's a dialogue with Cassandra.
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Thanks, but I was genuinely curious when I asked that. I get the second since TLJ is a divisive movie, but didn't get the first. That's OK. |
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Yessss, this thread is now all about needing more Mabari in future Dragon Age installments
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 23, 2020 17:05:51 GMT
The purpouse was to bring Tevinter to his golden age again. There is no need for Cory to be there. And since Venatori are mages, many blood mages too, I doubt they'll have any difficulty bringing problems for everyone. Plus, many members are part of the influent families of Minratous. Is the classic enemy inside for Tevinter. Maybe they are a smaller threat but i don´t think that they will still allow Calpernia without Corypheus support to be the Venatori leader.
Calpernia doesn´t fit to fit within in Venatori (any longer) because of her end all slavery policy.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 23, 2020 17:09:20 GMT
So both are the same sex, same background, same class, have the same overall goal, and many similar personality traits. The only discernible difference is their methods. They have far more in common than the two you're opposed to. For it to be as different as Wynne and Morrigan, the other mage would have to be like a Tal-Vashoth Saarebas or Rivaini Seer or something. Yes both are female mages (Mae is biological male) but they clearly haven´t same background as goals.
Mae comes from a rich noble family while Calpernia is a former slave. Big difference. And lets not forget that Calpernia big end goal is the end of all slavery in Thedas. Mae doesn´t seem interested in freeing the slaves. I am sorry but Mae as a lot in common with Dorian than with Calpernia.
I know Mae is trans. She identifies as female so that's what I call her. I don't need correction. Vaea and Harding have vastly different backgrounds too despite both being 'Ferelden commoners'. For starters Harding didn't live in a slum and lose her entire family. You mean the same Dorian who freed all his slaves after DAI? You're being a hypocrite in order to justify wanting the characters you want. Back under Ignore you go.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 23, 2020 17:16:36 GMT
She identifies as female so that's what I call her She's fictional. She has no will of her own, so she couldn't identify as anything. Her author does it for her. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 23, 2020 17:22:24 GMT
There is a difference between finding satisfaction in your skill and whatever makes someone make this face after killing somebody. Also where does he say that? Is there? Sure, smiles can be creepy but that strikes as an harmless one.
Also, it's a dialogue with Cassandra.
Doesn't for me. If she smiled as she held her bow maybe, but she puts the bow down, starts to walk away, then turns back and does that smirk. Thanks.
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Post by necrowaif on Apr 23, 2020 17:26:33 GMT
Really? You have a quote or something? I have thought they are done after Corypheus. Also does this really change that much for Calpernia?
I doubt that Venatori give her another chance as leader.
I still haven't finished all the Tevinter Nights stories, but in two stories are present. They may be unorganized, waiting for a new leader, but are definitely present in Tevinter. There are some remnants of the cult left. They’re leaderless and seem to have devolved to simply causing chaos. I’m not happy about that. I killed enough of these pricks in DAI that the cult should be broken. |
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Apr 23, 2020 17:27:35 GMT
I know Mae is trans. She identifies as female so that's what I call her. I don't need correction. Vaea and Harding have vastly different backgrounds too despite both being 'Ferelden commoners'. For starters Harding didn't live in a slum and lose her entire family. You mean the same Dorian who freed all his slaves after DAI? You're being a hypocrite in order to justify wanting the characters you want. Back under Ignore you go. Who said that i correct you or Mae isn´t female? I just pointed the fact that besides Mae been a beautiful and also fictional woman that she is as a transgender biological male.
Okay Vaea and Harding have different backgrounds which makes sense for a female elf and female dwarf but their goals aren´t that different.
I know that Dorian had freed his slaves but that wasn´t my point here. Both are Magister from an old noble Tevinter family,
lost their fathers in a bloody way and they want to end the Tevinter corruption.
Ok a hyprocrite well fine that is just your opinion. But if i am really one you can bet you are also one because
your Harding remarks are quite unique.  In my view Vaea and Harding are both serialkillers like the majority of Bioware NPCs who are enjoying to kill some enemies.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 23, 2020 17:27:49 GMT
I still haven't finished all the Tevinter Nights stories, but in two stories are present. They may be unorganized, waiting for a new leader, but are definitely present in Tevinter. There are some remnants of the cult left. They’re leaderless and seem to have devolved to simply causing chaos. So no difference, really. 
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Post by Felya87 on Apr 23, 2020 17:32:39 GMT
The purpouse was to bring Tevinter to his golden age again. There is no need for Cory to be there. And since Venatori are mages, many blood mages too, I doubt they'll have any difficulty bringing problems for everyone. Plus, many members are part of the influent families of Minratous. Is the classic enemy inside for Tevinter. Maybe they are a smaller threat but i don´t think that they will still allow Calpernia without Corypheus support to be the Venatori leader.
Calpernia doesn´t fit to fit within in Venatori (any longer) because of her end all slavery policy.
Mages and templars were a minor problem too in Origins. Calperia may not decide to became the new Venatori leader (even if I don't hink she would have much of a problem. Is not like thareare witness alive of her betrayl to Cory, and without inquisitor intervention, she may still simply believe in what Cory had promised her, and go on with her work. I have little memories of my time playng a pro templar run, tho, I almost always have her presumed dead in most of my DAI run), but another can take her place.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 23, 2020 20:09:27 GMT
Snip My bet is on Harding for crossover companion and Carver for advisor/faction leader/quest giver after she takes over as Inquisition spymaster for Leliana. Snip
Did you say Carver?... that sniveling "all-about-me" little ass wipe?
Bio writers wasted their time on this guy.
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Post by NotN7 on Apr 23, 2020 20:34:28 GMT
Yessss, this thread is now all about needing more Mabari in future Dragon Age installments
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Post by pessimistpanda on Apr 23, 2020 22:12:44 GMT
Nope. Thanks to the gay agenda, which I personally wrote, all the women in DA4 are either butch lesbians or literal burn victims, covered head to toe in seeping bandages.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Apr 24, 2020 2:36:45 GMT
Snip My bet is on Harding for crossover companion and Carver for advisor/faction leader/quest giver after she takes over as Inquisition spymaster for Leliana. Snip
Did you say Carver?... that sniveling "all-about-me" little ass wipe?
Bio writers wasted their time on this guy.
That was a typo. I edited it once I noticed. Apparently my brain thinks that all DA characters who have names that start with C and end with er are interchangeable.
We are never going to see Carver in another game, since he can be dead in two different ways at the end of DA2. (Which is a shame as far as I'm concerned, because I love Carver.)
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Post by witchcocktor on Apr 24, 2020 4:36:03 GMT
Carver is great. I like companions who challenge the PC, even if they are asshats and/or immature.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 24, 2020 4:49:30 GMT
I know Mae is trans. She identifies as female so that's what I call her. I don't need correction. Vaea and Harding have vastly different backgrounds too despite both being 'Ferelden commoners'. For starters Harding didn't live in a slum and lose her entire family. You mean the same Dorian who freed all his slaves after DAI? You're being a hypocrite in order to justify wanting the characters you want. Back under Ignore you go. Who said that i correct you or Mae isn´t female? I just pointed the fact that besides Mae been a beautiful and also fictional woman that she is as a transgender biological male.
Okay Vaea and Harding have different backgrounds which makes sense for a female elf and female dwarf but their goals aren´t that different.
I know that Dorian had freed his slaves but that wasn´t my point here. Both are Magister from an old noble Tevinter family,
lost their fathers in a bloody way and they want to end the Tevinter corruption.
Ok a hyprocrite well fine that is just your opinion. But if i am really one you can bet you are also one because
your Harding remarks are quite unique. In my view Vaea and Harding are both serialkillers like the majority of Bioware NPCs who are enjoying to kill some enemies.
You know Vaea hasn't killed a single person so far, right? She hates the idea of killing. Your views lost all credibility if you got even that wrong. 
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