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Post by colfoley on Jul 15, 2020 2:55:01 GMT
Wait the only way you level up Charisma is by flirting? Ugh. Flyting, not flirting. Flyting is the Viking Rap Battle thing. Still ugh. well it's at least better then the alternative.
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Post by officerdonnz on Jul 15, 2020 5:15:50 GMT
Still not sure what to think of Valhalla. Very much 'on the fence' over this. Don't think much of the Flyting mini game thing as that could old fast not to mention be annoying as hell.
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Post by saandrig on Jul 15, 2020 8:37:35 GMT
Is anyone actually excited by the Flyting thing? I just can't get excited by it at all TBH. My first analogy is the insult sword fighting from Monkey Island. And I loved those! But rap battles probably won't be as funny.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 15, 2020 8:48:38 GMT
I'm conflicted on the Chraisma skill tree/level. On one hand, it's interesting/intriguing the potential to add different decisions or dialogue. Does that also mean there is a speech skill tree? Also, I just hope the 'best outcomes' are not tied to a speech skill. That if you can't get it fine, but you may have to do a quest and can still do the 'best' outcome.
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Post by azarhal on Jul 15, 2020 11:37:32 GMT
I'm conflicted on the Chraisma skill tree/level. On one hand, it's interesting/intriguing the potential to add different decisions or dialogue. Does that also mean there is a speech skill tree? Also, I just hope the 'best outcomes' are not tied to a speech skill. That if you can't get it fine, but you may have to do a quest and can still do the 'best' outcome. There doesn't seems to be any speech tree skills. At least not in what the previewers were able to play. The only place Charisma shows up in that level up screen after doing Flyting, nobody knows what it's for, no devs talked about it. It feels like a cut feature that wasn't fully removed in the build used for the preview demo.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 15, 2020 12:54:33 GMT
As long as a system like Flyting is optional for the majority of the game or a non-stop barrage of "here is a Flyting challenge come here, come here, hey you come over here" and t hat I can avoid it I don't see it being a problem.
As an example, I don't think I would have minded the ship to ship combat in Assassin's Creed: Odyssey if they didn't make it part of the daily/weekly rotation for those resources are too limited to really pass up, but the rest of the presence in the game is just enough for you to learn the system so if you choose to you had some level of knowledge and introduction to those systems.
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Post by Element Zero on Jul 15, 2020 14:04:32 GMT
I was very unimpressed by the preview. Honestly, this went from a near auto-buy to a "wait and see more".
The combat looked really unappealing. The controls sound terrible, in my opinion. I use the "legacy" control layout. I don't do melee on triggers. My joints would never survive. How would this LH/RH setup translate to buttons? Pretty unintuitively, I think.
The voice direction feels bland and uninspiring in the snippets we've seen. Female Eivor is super boring, and Male Eivor sounds bland. That's not the VAs' fault, but rather direction.
I'm sure it's better than this first impression, but I'm certainly not excited for the game. I'll need to see a lot more that I like between now and release. I've bought every AC game (barring Liberation and side-scrollers) at release. I probably should've skipped Syndicate, but I've learned my lesson. I think I might try to grab this one cheaply via Cyber Monday/Black Friday sales, if at all. It's a long way to November, so we'll see. Hopefully my opinion is changed by better stuff.
I think it's unhelpful that I've mostly watched others play it. I hate watching other people play games. My feelings lie in the space between "Git Gud, Scrub" and "Damn, this is boring". If I'm going to watch gameplay, it needs to be a focused demo with set goals. Aimless wandering by these reviewers is not the best presentation for me.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 15, 2020 14:48:33 GMT
Least attractive setting so far for me. Zero appeal right now. Vikings for an assassin game, uh, what??
I know the series has basically turned its back to the stealth mechanics and going more and more for action combat. So I guess sit makes sense. But eh.
First Odyssey, a setting that didn't appeal to me either and therefore I'm waiting for a deep sale, and now Valhalla. Oh well. It's not like I ever finish them even if the setting is super fun like Egypt. *g*
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Post by azarhal on Jul 15, 2020 15:49:52 GMT
First Odyssey, a setting that didn't appeal to me either and therefore I'm waiting for a deep sale Odyssey Gold edition is 67% off right now on Ubisoft store.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Jul 15, 2020 16:32:28 GMT
I was very unimpressed by the preview. Honestly, this went from a near auto-buy to a "wait and see more". The combat looked really unappealing. The controls sound terrible, in my opinion. I use the "legacy" control layout. I don't do melee on triggers. My joints would never survive. How would this LH/RH setup translate to buttons? Pretty unintuitively, I think. The voice direction feels bland and uninspiring in the snippets we've seen. Female Eivor is super boring, and Male Eivor sounds bland. That's not the VAs' fault, but rather direction. I'm sure it's better than this first impression, but I'm certainly not excited for the game. I'll need to see a lot more that I like between now and release. I've bought every AC game (barring Liberation and side-scrollers) at release. I probably should've skipped Syndicate, but I've learned my lesson. I think I might try to grab this one cheaply via Cyber Monday/Black Friday sales, if at all. It's a long way to November, so we'll see. Hopefully my opinion is changed by better stuff. I think it's unhelpful that I've mostly watched others play it. I hate watching other people play games. My feelings lie in the space between "Git Gud, Scrub" and "Damn, this is boring". If I'm going to watch gameplay, it needs to be a focused demo with set goals. Aimless wandering by these reviewers is not the best presentation for me. I have some of the same skepticism based on how unfinished the game looks and most of the side activities shown seem pretty uninspired or half baked. The highlights for me were the combat and art direction. I really hope it's just a case of one small part not being representative of the whole.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Jul 15, 2020 17:00:05 GMT
I kind of agree with some of the concerning stuff. I found both VAs to be "eh." I like the guy slightly better, so that's probably who I'll play. Vikings have never really appealed to me, but ...we'll see. As you all know I've stated numerous times ( ) I really miss the assassin vs templar stuff and I'm really tired of the story trying to be ...in the middle? It's assassin's creed for pete's sake. Let's get back to it. I don't like what they've done with the MD stuff and I used to love it. I don't like Layla. If I can't be stealthy I'm gonna be real mad. I'll get over it, I guess, but I won't be happy about it! I'm still going to pre-order it and I'll probably enjoy it. But I don't know if it'll get multiple play throughs like it's predecessors.
ETA: I think that so many people were complaining about all the stuff on the maps that that's why they removed side quests. I think it was a mistake personally. Now people will say there isn't enough to do. Personally I enjoyed the markers on the map. It gave me direction and goals to work towards, especially on giant maps when wondering where to go next.
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Here are the various crafting materials...
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Post by dazk on Jul 15, 2020 23:50:38 GMT
Least attractive setting so far for me. Zero appeal right now. Vikings for an assassin game, uh, what?? I know the series has basically turned its back to the stealth mechanics and going more and more for action combat. So I guess sit makes sense. But eh. First Odyssey, a setting that didn't appeal to me either and therefore I'm waiting for a deep sale, and now Valhalla. Oh well. It's not like I ever finish them even if the setting is super fun like Egypt. *g* Odyssey is really great but I am a fan of that period of history/mythology and Stealth is in no way in the background of the game but the start of the game first PT you are forced a bit to melee till you get your assassin skills acquired and higher level. The world is beautiful and a delight to roam around and explore. I am doing a PT at the moment that is 90% stealth and only becomes non-stealth when I stuff my approach up. The female VA is also great and the games story is OK for an AC game. Several people I know played ACOD as their first AC game and really enjoyed it. I not that big a fan of the Viking thing but from what i have seen of the setting I am interested enough to think I will at least enjoy exploring it and they seem to have gone out of their way to emphasise that stealth is still an option but I guess we'll have to see just how much of an option it is.
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Post by dazk on Jul 15, 2020 23:57:44 GMT
I kind of agree with some of the concerning stuff. I found both VAs to be "eh." I like the guy slightly better, so that's probably who I'll play. Vikings have never really appealed to me, but ...we'll see. As you all know I've stated numerous times ( ) I really miss the assassin vs templar stuff and I'm really tired of the story trying to be ...in the middle? It's assassin's creed for pete's sake. Let's get back to it. I don't like what they've done with the MD stuff and I used to love it. I don't like Layla. If I can't be stealthy I'm gonna be real mad. I'll get over it, I guess, but I won't be happy about it! I'm still going to pre-order it and I'll probably enjoy it. But I don't know if it'll get multiple play throughs like it's predecessors.
ETA: I think that so many people were complaining about all the stuff on the maps that that's why they removed side quests. I think it was a mistake personally. Now people will say there isn't enough to do. Personally I enjoyed the markers on the map. It gave me direction and goals to work towards, especially on giant maps when wondering where to go next.
Agree re the MD stuff and Layla and I like the "?" too as they give me an excuse to explore everywhere, not that I really need one. I am hoping I am wrong but by removing the side quests I am thinking they may have turned a lot of the quests into quests like "Epi's", hey I need you to find these things and here's the location for the first one, return here's the location for the second one etc... That get's painful real quick. I am hoping that what they have said about stealth still being an option is true and that the combat doesn't fall back to Origins combat with all those guys with big ass shields just being a time-soak. I have pre-ordered it already to get the discount so I am locked in anyway!!!
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Post by dazk on Jul 16, 2020 0:02:48 GMT
Here are the various crafting materials... They must be going for authenticity or not, I really know nothing about Viking era mining and refining but again why do they have to over complicate stuff. What was wrong with just metal, leather and wood? I really hope upgrading gear is not going to be the ridiculous resource challenge it was in Odyssey, that was just painful and introducing more elements for crafting will just I assume make it even more time extensive gathering stuff with some resources no doubt being very rare.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 16, 2020 8:46:15 GMT
Here are the various crafting materials... They must be going for authenticity or not, I really know nothing about Viking era mining and refining but again why do they have to over complicate stuff. What was wrong with just metal, leather and wood? I really hope upgrading gear is not going to be the ridiculous resource challenge it was in Odyssey, that was just painful and introducing more elements for crafting will just I assume make it even more time extensive gathering stuff with some resources no doubt being very rare. Anyways, I'm sure Gunnar would make great use of it. 😉
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AccessTheAnimus @accesstheanimusAs mentioned in our comments by fan @ilgoblinn_, the Eivor's Fate trailer for #AssassinsCreed Valhalla also showed two members of the Hidden Ones!
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AccessTheAnimus @accesstheanimusAs mentioned in our comments by fan @ilgoblinn_, the Eivor's Fate trailer for #AssassinsCreed Valhalla also showed two members of the Hidden Ones! ... 3 actually, we can see a back version of the first screenshot with an Hidden One we had (post earlier in this thread somewhere). He doesn't look like any of these two (longer hair and more beard). And total tally might actually be 4, if the Not!Kassandra lady with the Assassin's insignia on her belt is one too (she's also in the Fate trailer briefly standing beside Eivor when the voice over says family...which makes me think there is a bit of a "oh Gotcha!" and Eivor will turn out to be just a rebellious Hidden Ones baby)
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Something I've been wondering, does Elivor have a last name? Or is it just Elivor like Shephard was.
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Post by azarhal on Jul 16, 2020 18:13:43 GMT
Something I've been wondering, does Elivor have a last name? Or is it just Elivor like Shephard was. Eivor is a first name *cough* and 100% female*cough*. Eivor probably have a patronymic or matronymic last name, but it would be different based on gender: end in "son" for male and "dottir" for female (or "bur" for both for some super anachronism). Also, totally useless outside of people from your clan/acquaintance because it means son/daughter of X, so if X isn't a known person. Nicknames probably have more chance of being used instead, like Wolf-kissed.
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BoughtbyBlood316 @boughtbyblood7Your awesome! Ok I may only get one shot at this so I'm gonna try and make it count haha 1. Can the hidden blade be used IN COMBAT as a primary left hand weapon? 2.We saw an X-ray assassination in the gameplay overview, was that only a cinematic for the trailer or was it gameplay Benoit Richer @benoitricher1. We're looking forward to reveal more soon 2. It happens during gameplay / player triggered Russell Irving @rgintegerCan it be permanently switched off within the menus? Sorry to be a bit negative, I'm sure a large part of the fanbase will love this, but having the option to just disable these completely would be appreciated. Benoit Richer @benoitricherDon’t worry it’s only under a certain context that I won’t explain not to spoil anything
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leonardo silva @leonard32347557 I want to know if they will improve movement and facial expressions in the cutscenes
Benoit Richer @benoitricher Definitely yes
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